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Khan beating Prescott won't prove anything about his chin imo. Kats is better choice
I'm not convinced on this 'he needs to beat Prescott to prove his chin can hold' argument.
It wouldn't convince anybody, the whole argument is silly.
If Amir rematched Prescott, he sure as well wouldn't trade with him. He'd keep on the outside and try and box his way to the win.
His plan would be to not get hit rather than test to see if his chin has improved.
If he came through it and won easily by keeping away nobody would be convinced. They would just say Prescott was shit and he was never going to hit Khan because of the speed difference and that Khan was a coward who just hit and ran.
So what is really being tested is Khan's ability to box safe, I imagine it would be a dull fight.
Michael Katsidis would be a better and more fan friendly test because he's 100% pressure. Khan would get hit on the arms, elbows, body, it would be a rough fight.
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Re: Khan beating Prescott won't prove anything about his chin imo. Kats is better ch
He needs to go in with a top fighter who can punch to silence the doubters for sure.
Prescott isnt top level although he can punch.
Beating light punchers will just bring bad reviews , we know Khan can box , lets see him in the trenches with someone top draw.
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Re: Khan beating Prescott won't prove anything about his chin imo. Kats is better ch
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Dark Lord Al
He needs to go in with a top fighter who can punch to silence the doubters for sure.
Prescott isnt top level although he can punch.
Beating light punchers will just bring bad reviews , we know Khan can box , lets see him in the trenches with someone top draw.
Yes but someone who can punch but is too slow to land won't answer any critics.
Look at Wlad. Did rematching Lamon Brewster and winning easily prove his chin problem? Hardly, he just showed that he can stay behind his jab and not get hit.
Fighting someone like a prime Holyfield or Lennox Lewis however who could get past his jab and test him would likely give his chin a much sterner test.
What I'm saying is I that those who grumble when Khan faces a slick boxer who can't punch, will be just as unimpressed when given a big puncher who is slow and can't box.
At least Kats is proven borderline world class. A win over him proves Khan is top drawer and ready to take on the champions of the division.
Maidana would be a good opponent too, but I imagine if Khan boxed his way to a win over him people would just say he was overated and couldn't box either at this stage.
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Dark Lord Al
He needs to go in with a top fighter who can punch to silence the doubters for sure.
Prescott isnt top level although he can punch.
Beating light punchers will just bring bad reviews , we know Khan can box , lets see him in the trenches with someone top draw.
Yes but someone who can punch but is too slow to land won't answer any critics.
Look at Wlad. Did rematching Lamon Brewster and winning easily prove his chin problem? Hardly, he just showed that he can stay behind his jab and not get hit.
Fighting someone like a prime Holyfield or Lennox Lewis however who could get past his jab and test him would likely give his chin a much sterner test.
What I'm saying is I that those who grumble when Khan faces a slick boxer who can't punch, will be just as unimpressed when given a big puncher who is slow and can't box.
At least Kats is proven borderline world class. A win over him proves Khan is top drawer and ready to take on the champions of the division.
Maidana would be a good opponent too, but I imagine if Khan boxed his way to a win over him people would just say he was overated and couldn't box either at this stage.
I'm already offering a sig beet - the first time in 7 years - that Katsidis floors Khan. :cool:
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Dark Lord Al
He needs to go in with a top fighter who can punch to silence the doubters for sure.
Prescott isnt top level although he can punch.
Beating light punchers will just bring bad reviews , we know Khan can box , lets see him in the trenches with someone top draw.
Yes but someone who can punch but is too slow to land won't answer any critics.
Look at Wlad. Did rematching Lamon Brewster and winning easily prove his chin problem? Hardly, he just showed that he can stay behind his jab and not get hit.
Fighting someone like a prime Holyfield or Lennox Lewis however who could get past his jab and test him would likely give his chin a much sterner test.
What I'm saying is I that those who grumble when Khan faces a slick boxer who can't punch, will be just as unimpressed when given a big puncher who is slow and can't box.
At least Kats is proven borderline world class. A win over him proves Khan is top drawer and ready to take on the champions of the division.
Maidana would be a good opponent too, but I imagine if Khan boxed his way to a win over him people would just say he was overated and couldn't box either at this stage.
I'm already offering a sig beet - the first time in 7 years - that Katsidis floors Khan. :cool:
Khan will NEVER take that fight so I think your sig is safe, Missy. Kat's hellacious presure will have Khan thinking twice about signing on the dotted line, for sure.
If it were ever to happen, my hat off to Khan cuz it would be a long night for him...
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Re: Khan beating Prescott won't prove anything about his chin imo. Kats is better ch
Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
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Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Have you been doing an ICB and copying my quotes like he (allegedly) did with Mick?
I made exactly the same statement last week. Of course I was laughed at, probably.
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Re: Khan beating Prescott won't prove anything about his chin imo. Kats is better ch
I wanna see Khan v Katsidis.
I pick Katsidis by early KO
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I wanna see Khan v Katsidis.
I pick Katsidis by early KO
Id be happy for anyone to spark Khan , but Katsidis would be ok by me.
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Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Have you been doing an ICB and copying my quotes like he (allegedly) did with Mick?
I made exactly the same statement last week. Of course I was laughed at, probably.
I don't read your posts beyond the first line or title. I never saw that.
It's only natural you got laughed at. Anyone tries to argue it with me knows they'll get owned (i really am reading too much ICB.. and Mick)
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I wanna see Khan v Katsidis.
I pick Katsidis by early KO
Id be happy for anyone to spark Khan , but Katsidis would be ok by me.
he would turn saturday's boo's in to cheers ;D
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Re: Khan beating Prescott won't prove anything about his chin imo. Kats is better ch
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Fenster
Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
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Re: Khan beating Prescott won't prove anything about his chin imo. Kats is better ch
Why do you guys go on....
Anyone can be knocked out with a single punch. Being knocked out doesn't prove anything about a fighters ability to withstand punishment without being knocked out. It's unknown physiology. If it were known, combat sports as we know it would be banded.
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Why do you guys go on....
Anyone can be knocked out with a single punch. Being knocked out doesn't prove anything about a fighters ability to withstand punishment without being knocked out. It's unknown physiology. If it were known, combat sports as we know it would be banded.
Face facts Khan has a glass jaw
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fan johnny
Why do you guys go on....
Anyone can be knocked out with a single punch. Being knocked out doesn't prove anything about a fighters ability to withstand punishment without being knocked out. It's unknown physiology. If it were known, combat sports as we know it would be banded.
No... If it could be measured there'd just be a hell of a lot less fighters out there.
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Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
Khan haters are not giving it enough thought. They are foolishly assuming any banger will give them wank material - hence the silly calls for a Prescott rematch. As though he has more chance of sparking Khan again than Bradley, Alexander and about 20 other fighters between 140 and 147.
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ono
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Fenster
Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
Khan haters are not giving it enough thought. They are foolishly assuming any banger will give them wank material - hence the silly calls for a Prescott rematch. As though he has more chance of sparking Khan again than Bradley, Alexander and about 20 other fighters between 140 and 147.
Yeah i asked the question a while ago: Surely he'd be in more danger against a solid hitter who has the speed and skills to land frequently, as apposed to being in there with a guy with limited skills, good power and a lottery ticket.
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ono
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Fenster
Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
Khan haters are not giving it enough thought. They are foolishly assuming any banger will give them wank material - hence the silly calls for a Prescott rematch. As though he has more chance of sparking Khan again than Bradley, Alexander and about 20 other fighters between 140 and 147.
I agree that Prescott has less chance of doing anything to Khan than either of these guys, but my take on it is a simple one. If you lose to someone then you want to avenge that defeat. To ignore it as though it never happened is a cowardly way to go about things. Khan has chosen to fight the likes of Fagen and Salita rather than fight Prescott. To me that speaks volumes about Khan and his team. These guys were not bigger name opponents and they certainly meant a whole deal less.
I prefer a Katsidis fight, so much more in fact. But if it can't happen in that time then I wouldn't begrudge a Prescott fight. Every man deserves the chance to try and put something right.
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miles
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Fenster
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ono
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
Khan haters are not giving it enough thought. They are foolishly assuming any banger will give them wank material - hence the silly calls for a Prescott rematch. As though he has more chance of sparking Khan again than Bradley, Alexander and about 20 other fighters between 140 and 147.
I agree that Prescott has less chance of doing anything to Khan than either of these guys, but my take on it is a simple one. If you lose to someone then you want to avenge that defeat. To ignore it as though it never happened is a cowardly way to go about things. Khan has chosen to fight the likes of Fagen and Salita rather than fight Prescott. To me that speaks volumes about Khan and his team. These guys were not bigger name opponents and they certainly meant a whole deal less.
I prefer a Katsidis fight, so much more in fact. But if it can't happen in that time then I wouldn't begrudge a Prescott fight. Every man deserves the chance to try and put something right.
I suppose you'll start giving Khan great respect if he avenged the defeat to Prescott? In no way whatsoever would Prescott become a useless borderline journeyman that was totally outboxed by non-world level Kevin Mitchell.
Come on miles, if Khan beats Prescott you'll say it means nothing and if he doesn't fight him again you'll continue to call him a coward and slag him off.
You're so infected with the hate Khan will never win ;D
Prescott is worth rematching if they can't find about 20 other fighters who are much better around that weight.
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Fenster
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miles
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
Khan haters are not giving it enough thought. They are foolishly assuming any banger will give them wank material - hence the silly calls for a Prescott rematch. As though he has more chance of sparking Khan again than Bradley, Alexander and about 20 other fighters between 140 and 147.
I agree that Prescott has less chance of doing anything to Khan than either of these guys, but my take on it is a simple one. If you lose to someone then you want to avenge that defeat. To ignore it as though it never happened is a cowardly way to go about things. Khan has chosen to fight the likes of Fagen and Salita rather than fight Prescott. To me that speaks volumes about Khan and his team. These guys were not bigger name opponents and they certainly meant a whole deal less.
I prefer a Katsidis fight, so much more in fact. But if it can't happen in that time then I wouldn't begrudge a Prescott fight. Every man deserves the chance to try and put something right.
I suppose you'll start giving Khan great respect if he avenged the defeat to Prescott? In no way whatsoever would Prescott become a useless borderline journeyman that was totally outboxed by non-world level Kevin Mitchell.
Come on miles, if Khan beats Prescott you'll say it means nothing and if he doesn't fight him again you'll continue to call him a coward and slag him off.
Prescott is worth rematching again if they can't find about 20 other fighters who are much better around that weight.
You're so infected with the hate Khan will never win ;D
No, it wouldn't win me over, but you would have to respect him a tad more for facing a demon in the closet and if Khan needs a fight for July it might fill the gap. Like I say, I would prefer Katsidis by far, but if it's Prescott then I wouldn't mind all that much. It is better than some recent opponents.
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miles
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
Khan haters are not giving it enough thought. They are foolishly assuming any banger will give them wank material - hence the silly calls for a Prescott rematch. As though he has more chance of sparking Khan again than Bradley, Alexander and about 20 other fighters between 140 and 147.
I agree that Prescott has less chance of doing anything to Khan than either of these guys, but my take on it is a simple one. If you lose to someone then you want to avenge that defeat. To ignore it as though it never happened is a cowardly way to go about things. Khan has chosen to fight the likes of Fagen and Salita rather than fight Prescott. To me that speaks volumes about Khan and his team. These guys were not bigger name opponents and they certainly meant a whole deal less.
I prefer a Katsidis fight, so much more in fact. But if it can't happen in that time then I wouldn't begrudge a Prescott fight. Every man deserves the chance to try and put something right.
I suppose you'll start giving Khan great respect if he avenged the defeat to Prescott? In no way whatsoever would Prescott become a useless borderline journeyman that was totally outboxed by non-world level Kevin Mitchell.
Come on miles, if Khan beats Prescott you'll say it means nothing and if he doesn't fight him again you'll continue to call him a coward and slag him off.
Prescott is worth rematching again if they can't find about 20 other fighters who are much better around that weight.
You're so infected with the hate Khan will never win ;D
No, it wouldn't win me over, but you would have to respect him a tad more for facing a demon in the closet and if Khan needs a fight for July it might fill the gap. Like I say, I would prefer Katsidis by far, but if it's Prescott then I wouldn't mind all that much. It is better than some recent opponents.
Barrera, Kotelnik, Powderpuff and arguably even the unbeaten WBA no.1 mandatory were better than Prescott.
I get what you're saying though. At least if he rematches Prescott it gives you hope of seeing him splattered again whereas you wouldn't be certain of that with other better fighters he might face ;)
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miles
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Fenster
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miles
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Fenster
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ono
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Fenster
Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
Khan haters are not giving it enough thought. They are foolishly assuming any banger will give them wank material - hence the silly calls for a Prescott rematch. As though he has more chance of sparking Khan again than Bradley, Alexander and about 20 other fighters between 140 and 147.
I agree that Prescott has less chance of doing anything to Khan than either of these guys, but my take on it is a simple one. If you lose to someone then you want to avenge that defeat. To ignore it as though it never happened is a cowardly way to go about things. Khan has chosen to fight the likes of Fagen and Salita rather than fight Prescott. To me that speaks volumes about Khan and his team. These guys were not bigger name opponents and they certainly meant a whole deal less.
I prefer a Katsidis fight, so much more in fact. But if it can't happen in that time then I wouldn't begrudge a Prescott fight. Every man deserves the chance to try and put something right.
I suppose you'll start giving Khan great respect if he avenged the defeat to Prescott? In no way whatsoever would Prescott become a useless borderline journeyman that was totally outboxed by non-world level Kevin Mitchell.
Come on miles, if Khan beats Prescott you'll say it means nothing and if he doesn't fight him again you'll continue to call him a coward and slag him off.
Prescott is worth rematching again if they can't find about 20 other fighters who are much better around that weight.
You're so infected with the hate Khan will never win ;D
No, it wouldn't win me over, but you would have to respect him a tad more for facing a demon in the closet and if Khan needs a fight for July it might fill the gap. Like I say, I would prefer Katsidis by far, but if it's Prescott then I wouldn't mind all that much. It is better than some recent opponents.
Barrera, Kotelnik, Powderpuff and arguably even the unbeaten WBA no.1 mandatory were better than Prescott.
I get what you're saying though. At least if he rematches Prescott it gives you hope of seeing him splattered again whereas you wouldn't be certain of that with other better fighters he might face ;)
You do realise that I still don't recognise the Barrera fight! :p
Kotelnik and Malignaggi are both fighters that are better than Prescott, but they can't punch for shit. Plus they haven't already knocked Khan out in a round. TBH, we all know I don't like Khan so much but I'm kind of ambivalent about him at this point in time. If he is really willing to get in there and fight a higher class of opponent like he said then that's cool. I think other fighters have a much better chance of stopping him than Prescott, but can see the point in a Prescott fight. I like to pose a bit on my Khan stance, but it wouldn't bother me that much if he was able to surprise me. But if I like the opponent more, then of course I will back them as was the case last time out. But we all knew Paulie couldn't punch. Khan really needs to face a puncher and show that he can weave his way through a situation like that.
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miles
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Fenster
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miles
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Fenster
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ono
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Fenster
Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
Khan haters are not giving it enough thought. They are foolishly assuming any banger will give them wank material - hence the silly calls for a Prescott rematch. As though he has more chance of sparking Khan again than Bradley, Alexander and about 20 other fighters between 140 and 147.
I agree that Prescott has less chance of doing anything to Khan than either of these guys, but my take on it is a simple one. If you lose to someone then you want to avenge that defeat. To ignore it as though it never happened is a cowardly way to go about things. Khan has chosen to fight the likes of Fagen and Salita rather than fight Prescott. To me that speaks volumes about Khan and his team. These guys were not bigger name opponents and they certainly meant a whole deal less.
I prefer a Katsidis fight, so much more in fact. But if it can't happen in that time then I wouldn't begrudge a Prescott fight. Every man deserves the chance to try and put something right.
I suppose you'll start giving Khan great respect if he avenged the defeat to Prescott? In no way whatsoever would Prescott become a useless borderline journeyman that was totally outboxed by non-world level Kevin Mitchell.
Come on miles, if Khan beats Prescott you'll say it means nothing and if he doesn't fight him again you'll continue to call him a coward and slag him off.
Prescott is worth rematching again if they can't find about 20 other fighters who are much better around that weight.
You're so infected with the hate Khan will never win ;D
No, it wouldn't win me over, but you would have to respect him a tad more for facing a demon in the closet and if Khan needs a fight for July it might fill the gap. Like I say, I would prefer Katsidis by far, but if it's Prescott then I wouldn't mind all that much. It is better than some recent opponents.
Barrera, Kotelnik, Powderpuff and arguably even the unbeaten WBA no.1 mandatory were better than Prescott.
I get what you're saying though. At least if he rematches Prescott it gives you hope of seeing him splattered again whereas you wouldn't be certain of that with other better fighters he might face ;)
You do realise that I still don't recognise the Barrera fight! :p
Kotelnik and Malignaggi are both fighters that are better than Prescott, but they can't punch for shit. Plus they haven't already knocked Khan out in a round. TBH, we all know I don't like Khan so much but I'm kind of ambivalent about him at this point in time. If he is really willing to get in there and fight a higher class of opponent like he said then that's cool. I think other fighters have a much better chance of stopping him than Prescott, but can see the point in a Prescott fight. I like to pose a bit on my Khan stance, but it wouldn't bother me that much if he was able to surprise me. But if I like the opponent more, then of course I will back them as was the case last time out. But we all knew Paulie couldn't punch.
Khan really needs to face a puncher and show that he can weave his way through a situation like that.
After all that, we go back to square one ;D
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miles
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ono
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Fenster
Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
Khan haters are not giving it enough thought. They are foolishly assuming any banger will give them wank material - hence the silly calls for a Prescott rematch. As though he has more chance of sparking Khan again than Bradley, Alexander and about 20 other fighters between 140 and 147.
I agree that Prescott has less chance of doing anything to Khan than either of these guys, but my take on it is a simple one. If you lose to someone then you want to avenge that defeat. To ignore it as though it never happened is a cowardly way to go about things. Khan has chosen to fight the likes of Fagen and Salita rather than fight Prescott. To me that speaks volumes about Khan and his team. These guys were not bigger name opponents and they certainly meant a whole deal less.
I prefer a Katsidis fight, so much more in fact. But if it can't happen in that time then I wouldn't begrudge a Prescott fight. Every man deserves the chance to try and put something right.
I suppose you'll start giving Khan great respect if he avenged the defeat to Prescott? In no way whatsoever would Prescott become a useless borderline journeyman that was totally outboxed by non-world level Kevin Mitchell.
Come on miles, if Khan beats Prescott you'll say it means nothing and if he doesn't fight him again you'll continue to call him a coward and slag him off.
Prescott is worth rematching again if they can't find about 20 other fighters who are much better around that weight.
You're so infected with the hate Khan will never win ;D
No, it wouldn't win me over, but you would have to respect him a tad more for facing a demon in the closet and if Khan needs a fight for July it might fill the gap. Like I say, I would prefer Katsidis by far, but if it's Prescott then I wouldn't mind all that much. It is better than some recent opponents.
Barrera, Kotelnik, Powderpuff and arguably even the unbeaten WBA no.1 mandatory were better than Prescott.
I get what you're saying though. At least if he rematches Prescott it gives you hope of seeing him splattered again whereas you wouldn't be certain of that with other better fighters he might face ;)
You do realise that I still don't recognise the Barrera fight! :p
Kotelnik and Malignaggi are both fighters that are better than Prescott, but they can't punch for shit. Plus they haven't already knocked Khan out in a round. TBH, we all know I don't like Khan so much but I'm kind of ambivalent about him at this point in time. If he is really willing to get in there and fight a higher class of opponent like he said then that's cool. I think other fighters have a much better chance of stopping him than Prescott, but can see the point in a Prescott fight. I like to pose a bit on my Khan stance, but it wouldn't bother me that much if he was able to surprise me. But if I like the opponent more, then of course I will back them as was the case last time out. But we all knew Paulie couldn't punch.
Khan really needs to face a puncher and show that he can weave his way through a situation like that.
After all that, we go back to square one ;D
Why though? Khan calls himself a champ, but it's a rights of passage, you have to fight someone who is a threat and who can punch. There is just no point in careful matchmaking from here on out. It's not too much to ask that a fighter challenge himself and challenge his known weakness. If he wasn't ready to make the break then he should never have fought Kotelnik, it's now time to sink or swim and beating Malignaggi was never going to answer the questions we all have. I think beating a known, hungry power puncher increases his stock immeasurably and puts naysayers like me well on the margins.
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What questions miles?
You still haven't realised Khan has a china chin?
So Prescott is a puncher, right? Khan beats him that proves he can beat punchers?
Bradley only has 11 stoppage wins to his name. He's not a big puncher. If Khan fights him I supppose it's more proof he's ducking punchers? ;D
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Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
Khan haters are not giving it enough thought. They are foolishly assuming any banger will give them wank material - hence the silly calls for a Prescott rematch. As though he has more chance of sparking Khan again than Bradley, Alexander and about 20 other fighters between 140 and 147.
I agree that Prescott has less chance of doing anything to Khan than either of these guys, but my take on it is a simple one. If you lose to someone then you want to avenge that defeat. To ignore it as though it never happened is a cowardly way to go about things. Khan has chosen to fight the likes of Fagen and Salita rather than fight Prescott. To me that speaks volumes about Khan and his team. These guys were not bigger name opponents and they certainly meant a whole deal less.
I prefer a Katsidis fight, so much more in fact. But if it can't happen in that time then I wouldn't begrudge a Prescott fight. Every man deserves the chance to try and put something right.
I suppose you'll start giving Khan great respect if he avenged the defeat to Prescott? In no way whatsoever would Prescott become a useless borderline journeyman that was totally outboxed by non-world level Kevin Mitchell.
Come on miles, if Khan beats Prescott you'll say it means nothing and if he doesn't fight him again you'll continue to call him a coward and slag him off.
Prescott is worth rematching again if they can't find about 20 other fighters who are much better around that weight.
You're so infected with the hate Khan will never win ;D
No, it wouldn't win me over, but you would have to respect him a tad more for facing a demon in the closet and if Khan needs a fight for July it might fill the gap. Like I say, I would prefer Katsidis by far, but if it's Prescott then I wouldn't mind all that much. It is better than some recent opponents.
Barrera, Kotelnik, Powderpuff and arguably even the unbeaten WBA no.1 mandatory were better than Prescott.
I get what you're saying though. At least if he rematches Prescott it gives you hope of seeing him splattered again whereas you wouldn't be certain of that with other better fighters he might face ;)
You do realise that I still don't recognise the Barrera fight! :p
Kotelnik and Malignaggi are both fighters that are better than Prescott, but they can't punch for shit. Plus they haven't already knocked Khan out in a round. TBH, we all know I don't like Khan so much but I'm kind of ambivalent about him at this point in time. If he is really willing to get in there and fight a higher class of opponent like he said then that's cool. I think other fighters have a much better chance of stopping him than Prescott, but can see the point in a Prescott fight. I like to pose a bit on my Khan stance, but it wouldn't bother me that much if he was able to surprise me. But if I like the opponent more, then of course I will back them as was the case last time out. But we all knew Paulie couldn't punch.
Khan really needs to face a puncher and show that he can weave his way through a situation like that.
After all that, we go back to square one ;D
Why though? Khan calls himself a champ, but it's a rights of passage, you have to fight someone who is a threat and who can punch. There is just no point in careful matchmaking from here on out. It's not too much to ask that a fighter challenge himself and challenge his known weakness. If he wasn't ready to make the break then he should never have fought Kotelnik, it's now time to sink or swim and beating Malignaggi was never going to answer the questions we all have. I think beating a known, hungry power puncher increases his stock immeasurably and puts naysayers like me well on the margins.
But Boxing isn't just about getting kncoked out. You can be outboxed and lose, you can be outworked and lose.
Just because Malignaggi doesn't hit hard it doesn't discount his threat as a fighter. He can still beat you. He's still more than a worthy opponent.
Khan won't prove anything by beating a puncher. It'll just prove that he didn't get knocked out by that particualrpuncher.
He'll still be just as likely to get knocked out by the next puncher. That''s what it's going to be like for Khan.
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What questions miles?
You still haven't realised Khan has a china chin?
So Prescott is a puncher, right? Khan beats him that proves he can beat punchers?
Bradley only has 11 stoppage wins to his name. He's not a big puncher. If Khan fights him I supppose it's more proof he's ducking punchers? ;D
Maybe he does have a china chin, but that's not all I am thinking about. If your chin isn't the strongest and you really want to show that you are something then you should challenge yourself. Khan has been crafty with the matchmaking thus far, bar Prescott.
The Prescott point is a simple one like I've said before. It avenges a loss and fixes a short term need for an opponent. Nothing less, nothing more.
A Bradley fight would be far more desirable. I like Bradley a lot and though he doesn't have many knockouts, I think he can punch. I wouldn't deny that as a good matchup, of course I prefer that over Prescott.
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What questions miles?
You still haven't realised Khan has a china chin?
So Prescott is a puncher, right? Khan beats him that proves he can beat punchers?
Bradley only has 11 stoppage wins to his name. He's not a big puncher. If Khan fights him I supppose it's more proof he's ducking punchers? ;D
Maybe he does have a china chin, but that's not all I am thinking about.
If your chin isn't the strongest and you really want to show that you are something then you should challenge yourself. Khan has been crafty with the matchmaking thus far, bar Prescott.
The Prescott point is a simple one like I've said before. It avenges a loss and fixes a short term need for an opponent. Nothing less, nothing more.
A Bradley fight would be far more desirable. I like Bradley a lot and though he doesn't have many knockouts, I think he can punch. I wouldn't deny that as a good matchup, of course I prefer that over Prescott.
That's nonsesne.
So Prescott is better than Barrera, Kotelnik and Powderpuff?
Khan has stepped up to world class since his defeat and shown a massive improvement. That's why he is currently rated the 3rd best 140lber in the world.
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Khan needs to fight a puncher to prove his chin is the most pathetic statement constantly repeated on here.
The boy has a china chin. It will always be china. Any fighter with the ability to land a half-decent punch has the chance of sparking him.
Khan could beat Mayweather then get KO'd by Urango. That's his career.
Thanks fuck i'm not the only one who thinks this. I've been saying it for ages. It just means that particualar puncher didn't knock him out, but the next one might.
Khan haters are not giving it enough thought. They are foolishly assuming any banger will give them wank material - hence the silly calls for a Prescott rematch. As though he has more chance of sparking Khan again than Bradley, Alexander and about 20 other fighters between 140 and 147.
I agree that Prescott has less chance of doing anything to Khan than either of these guys, but my take on it is a simple one. If you lose to someone then you want to avenge that defeat. To ignore it as though it never happened is a cowardly way to go about things. Khan has chosen to fight the likes of Fagen and Salita rather than fight Prescott. To me that speaks volumes about Khan and his team. These guys were not bigger name opponents and they certainly meant a whole deal less.
I prefer a Katsidis fight, so much more in fact. But if it can't happen in that time then I wouldn't begrudge a Prescott fight. Every man deserves the chance to try and put something right.
I suppose you'll start giving Khan great respect if he avenged the defeat to Prescott? In no way whatsoever would Prescott become a useless borderline journeyman that was totally outboxed by non-world level Kevin Mitchell.
Come on miles, if Khan beats Prescott you'll say it means nothing and if he doesn't fight him again you'll continue to call him a coward and slag him off.
Prescott is worth rematching again if they can't find about 20 other fighters who are much better around that weight.
You're so infected with the hate Khan will never win ;D
No, it wouldn't win me over, but you would have to respect him a tad more for facing a demon in the closet and if Khan needs a fight for July it might fill the gap. Like I say, I would prefer Katsidis by far, but if it's Prescott then I wouldn't mind all that much. It is better than some recent opponents.
Barrera, Kotelnik, Powderpuff and arguably even the unbeaten WBA no.1 mandatory were better than Prescott.
I get what you're saying though. At least if he rematches Prescott it gives you hope of seeing him splattered again whereas you wouldn't be certain of that with other better fighters he might face ;)
You do realise that I still don't recognise the Barrera fight! :p
Kotelnik and Malignaggi are both fighters that are better than Prescott, but they can't punch for shit. Plus they haven't already knocked Khan out in a round. TBH, we all know I don't like Khan so much but I'm kind of ambivalent about him at this point in time. If he is really willing to get in there and fight a higher class of opponent like he said then that's cool. I think other fighters have a much better chance of stopping him than Prescott, but can see the point in a Prescott fight. I like to pose a bit on my Khan stance, but it wouldn't bother me that much if he was able to surprise me. But if I like the opponent more, then of course I will back them as was the case last time out. But we all knew Paulie couldn't punch.
Khan really needs to face a puncher and show that he can weave his way through a situation like that.
After all that, we go back to square one ;D
Why though? Khan calls himself a champ, but it's a rights of passage, you have to fight someone who is a threat and who can punch. There is just no point in careful matchmaking from here on out. It's not too much to ask that a fighter challenge himself and challenge his known weakness. If he wasn't ready to make the break then he should never have fought Kotelnik, it's now time to sink or swim and beating Malignaggi was never going to answer the questions we all have. I think beating a known, hungry power puncher increases his stock immeasurably and puts naysayers like me well on the margins.
But Boxing isn't just about getting kncoked out. You can be outboxed and lose, you can be outworked and lose.
Just because Malignaggi doesn't hit hard it doesn't discount his threat as a fighter. He can still beat you. He's still more than a worthy opponent.
Khan won't prove anything by beating a puncher. It'll just prove that he didn't get knocked out by that particualrpuncher.
He'll still be just as likely to get knocked out by the next puncher. That''s what it's going to be like for Khan.
Like I said in my previous post, you should aspire to do great things in whatever field you are in. It's about challenging yourself and saying that you are good enough to beat the best. As soon as Khan decided he wanted to be a world champion that is what he asked for. Fair enough, he's beaten Malignaggi who was beaten by Hatton and Cotto quite convincingly. But there gets a point, are you in this to coast and fight featherfists from here until the end...or will you step it up and face a man who you know can hurt you? Khan needs to do that and until he does, people like me will say that he is all smoke and mirrors. You can't base a career on avoiding punchers and saying "well I might beat this one, but the next one might get me". You have to try it out and show that you have learned.
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What questions miles?
You still haven't realised Khan has a china chin?
So Prescott is a puncher, right? Khan beats him that proves he can beat punchers?
Bradley only has 11 stoppage wins to his name. He's not a big puncher. If Khan fights him I supppose it's more proof he's ducking punchers? ;D
Maybe he does have a china chin, but that's not all I am thinking about.
If your chin isn't the strongest and you really want to show that you are something then you should challenge yourself. Khan has been crafty with the matchmaking thus far, bar Prescott.
The Prescott point is a simple one like I've said before. It avenges a loss and fixes a short term need for an opponent. Nothing less, nothing more.
A Bradley fight would be far more desirable. I like Bradley a lot and though he doesn't have many knockouts, I think he can punch. I wouldn't deny that as a good matchup, of course I prefer that over Prescott.
That's nonsesne.
So Prescott is better than Barrera, Kotelnik and Powderpuff?
Khan has stepped up to world class since his defeat and shown a massive improvement. That's why he is currently rated the 3rd best 140lber in the world.
I don't see why that is nonsense. Everyone is knocking you for something then you should want to prove them wrong, it's human nature. The matchmaking has been superb and that is undeniable.
Barrera wasn't beaten so let's subtract that one.
Now Kotelnik and Paulie are the two weakest punchers in the division. You can say that he has stepped up, but I will cynically suggest that he has been matched up. He hasn't faced an opponent who can tickle him let alone challenge him. 3rd best fighter at 140? Off of Kotelnik and a Paulie who has had 1 fight at 140 since Hatton? No, I don't buy into it at all.
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What questions miles?
You still haven't realised Khan has a china chin?
So Prescott is a puncher, right? Khan beats him that proves he can beat punchers?
Bradley only has 11 stoppage wins to his name. He's not a big puncher. If Khan fights him I supppose it's more proof he's ducking punchers? ;D
Maybe he does have a china chin, but that's not all I am thinking about.
If your chin isn't the strongest and you really want to show that you are something then you should challenge yourself. Khan has been crafty with the matchmaking thus far, bar Prescott.
The Prescott point is a simple one like I've said before. It avenges a loss and fixes a short term need for an opponent. Nothing less, nothing more.
A Bradley fight would be far more desirable. I like Bradley a lot and though he doesn't have many knockouts, I think he can punch. I wouldn't deny that as a good matchup, of course I prefer that over Prescott.
That's nonsesne.
So Prescott is better than Barrera, Kotelnik and Powderpuff?
Khan has stepped up to world class since his defeat and shown a massive improvement. That's why he is currently rated the 3rd best 140lber in the world.
I don't see why that is nonsense. Everyone is knocking you for something then you should want to prove them wrong, it's human nature. The matchmaking has been superb and that is undeniable.
Barrera wasn't beaten so let's subtract that one.
Now Kotelnik and Paulie are the two weakest punchers in the division. You can say that he has stepped up, but I will cynically suggest that he has been matched up. He hasn't faced an opponent who can tickle him let alone challenge him. 3rd best fighter at 140? Off of Kotelnik and a Paulie who has had 1 fight at 140 since Hatton? No, I don't buy into it at all.
Name who is better at 140?
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What questions miles?
You still haven't realised Khan has a china chin?
So Prescott is a puncher, right? Khan beats him that proves he can beat punchers?
Bradley only has 11 stoppage wins to his name. He's not a big puncher. If Khan fights him I supppose it's more proof he's ducking punchers? ;D
Maybe he does have a china chin, but that's not all I am thinking about.
If your chin isn't the strongest and you really want to show that you are something then you should challenge yourself. Khan has been crafty with the matchmaking thus far, bar Prescott.
The Prescott point is a simple one like I've said before. It avenges a loss and fixes a short term need for an opponent. Nothing less, nothing more.
A Bradley fight would be far more desirable. I like Bradley a lot and though he doesn't have many knockouts, I think he can punch. I wouldn't deny that as a good matchup, of course I prefer that over Prescott.
That's nonsesne.
So Prescott is better than Barrera, Kotelnik and Powderpuff?
Khan has stepped up to world class since his defeat and shown a massive improvement. That's why he is currently rated the 3rd best 140lber in the world.
I don't see why that is nonsense. Everyone is knocking you for something then you should want to prove them wrong, it's human nature. The matchmaking has been superb and that is undeniable.
Barrera wasn't beaten so let's subtract that one.
Now Kotelnik and Paulie are the two weakest punchers in the division. You can say that he has stepped up, but I will cynically suggest that he has been matched up. He hasn't faced an opponent who can tickle him let alone challenge him. 3rd best fighter at 140? Off of Kotelnik and a Paulie who has had 1 fight at 140 since Hatton? No, I don't buy into it at all.
Name who is better at 140?
Fenster, you are so forthright and demanding. I give you perfectly valid opinions and you tell me I am talking nonsense and now I am being ordered to produce a list. I want Khan to face the same opponents as others do:
Bradley
Maidana
Ortiz
Urango
Alexander
Each of these guys can either box, punch or even do a bit of both. If none can be fit in then Prescott will do. Katisidis will do fine too, but he isn't a 140'er. But Khan should face a puncher and that's the point that will be made until he does so.
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I would personally prefer Khan rematching Prescott than fighting Katsidis.
With Katsidis, he fights a really tough relentless pressure fighter with good power. Katsidis is a threat even if he is from a weight class below.
Now Prescott isn't the threat that Katsidis is, but he has a win over Khan plus we all know he can test Khan's chin.
Khan winning over Prescott would be great for him. He would have the chance to erase the one loss of his career, a shocking one might i add. he has to take it.
It's not like Khan would just own Prescott if they were to fight again. Khan has improved since then, and Prescott has been beat but the guys that beat him had to take his shots to win. Khan would have to also.
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I say Tim Bradley would test his chin more. Because Katsidis may hit Khan once or twice but Khan wouldn't allow it to happen too often, Timothy has a much more intelligent kind of offense and puts more pressure behind it and isn't too easy to hit himself. Much sterner test for Khan imo.
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What questions miles?
You still haven't realised Khan has a china chin?
So Prescott is a puncher, right? Khan beats him that proves he can beat punchers?
Bradley only has 11 stoppage wins to his name. He's not a big puncher. If Khan fights him I supppose it's more proof he's ducking punchers? ;D
Maybe he does have a china chin, but that's not all I am thinking about.
If your chin isn't the strongest and you really want to show that you are something then you should challenge yourself. Khan has been crafty with the matchmaking thus far, bar Prescott.
The Prescott point is a simple one like I've said before. It avenges a loss and fixes a short term need for an opponent. Nothing less, nothing more.
A Bradley fight would be far more desirable. I like Bradley a lot and though he doesn't have many knockouts, I think he can punch. I wouldn't deny that as a good matchup, of course I prefer that over Prescott.
That's nonsesne.
So Prescott is better than Barrera, Kotelnik and Powderpuff?
Khan has stepped up to world class since his defeat and shown a massive improvement. That's why he is currently rated the 3rd best 140lber in the world.
I don't see why that is nonsense. Everyone is knocking you for something then you should want to prove them wrong, it's human nature. The matchmaking has been superb and that is undeniable.
Barrera wasn't beaten so let's subtract that one.
Now Kotelnik and Paulie are the two weakest punchers in the division. You can say that he has stepped up, but I will cynically suggest that he has been matched up. He hasn't faced an opponent who can tickle him let alone challenge him. 3rd best fighter at 140? Off of Kotelnik and a Paulie who has had 1 fight at 140 since Hatton? No, I don't buy into it at all.
Name who is better at 140?
Fenster, you are so forthright and demanding. I give you perfectly valid opinions and you tell me I am talking nonsense and now I am being ordered to produce a list. I want Khan to face the same opponents as others do:
Bradley
Maidana
Ortiz
Urango
Alexander
Each of these guys can either box, punch or even do a bit of both. If none can be fit in then Prescott will do. Katisidis will do fine too, but he isn't a 140'er. But Khan should face a puncher and that's the point that will be made until he does so.
This is the reason your argument about Khan not stepping up since Prescott is nonsense.
Kotelnik beat Maidana. Maidana beat Ortiz. Khan beat Kotelnik. So Khan already has a formline that puts him above two of your guys, which obviously makes him one of the best at 140.
Of course any fight with those guys would be great. The best fighting the best. But should Khan not fight any of those next, or Prescott, your gonna slag him, right? ;D
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What questions miles?
You still haven't realised Khan has a china chin?
So Prescott is a puncher, right? Khan beats him that proves he can beat punchers?
Bradley only has 11 stoppage wins to his name. He's not a big puncher. If Khan fights him I supppose it's more proof he's ducking punchers? ;D
Maybe he does have a china chin, but that's not all I am thinking about.
If your chin isn't the strongest and you really want to show that you are something then you should challenge yourself. Khan has been crafty with the matchmaking thus far, bar Prescott.
The Prescott point is a simple one like I've said before. It avenges a loss and fixes a short term need for an opponent. Nothing less, nothing more.
A Bradley fight would be far more desirable. I like Bradley a lot and though he doesn't have many knockouts, I think he can punch. I wouldn't deny that as a good matchup, of course I prefer that over Prescott.
That's nonsesne.
So Prescott is better than Barrera, Kotelnik and Powderpuff?
Khan has stepped up to world class since his defeat and shown a massive improvement. That's why he is currently rated the 3rd best 140lber in the world.
I don't see why that is nonsense. Everyone is knocking you for something then you should want to prove them wrong, it's human nature. The matchmaking has been superb and that is undeniable.
Barrera wasn't beaten so let's subtract that one.
Now Kotelnik and Paulie are the two weakest punchers in the division. You can say that he has stepped up, but I will cynically suggest that he has been matched up. He hasn't faced an opponent who can tickle him let alone challenge him. 3rd best fighter at 140? Off of Kotelnik and a Paulie who has had 1 fight at 140 since Hatton? No, I don't buy into it at all.
Name who is better at 140?
Fenster, you are so forthright and demanding. I give you perfectly valid opinions and you tell me I am talking nonsense and now I am being ordered to produce a list. I want Khan to face the same opponents as others do:
Bradley
Maidana
Ortiz
Urango
Alexander
Each of these guys can either box, punch or even do a bit of both. If none can be fit in then Prescott will do. Katisidis will do fine too, but he isn't a 140'er. But Khan should face a puncher and that's the point that will be made until he does so.
Are you saying all of those guys are better??
The only ones you could definitively argue are Bradley and Alexander. Is Urango really better?? Let me guess if Khan beat Urango he'd get shit for picking on Alexander's leftovers. Same if he fights Ortiz now, he'd get stick for not fighting Maidana, who of course would be one-dimensional if he beat him.
I really am starting to think Khan may have pound for pound potential, not based on what he's done in the ring, but on the fact that only Mayweather & Pacquaio get their acheivements so ludicrously downgraded.
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What questions miles?
You still haven't realised Khan has a china chin?
So Prescott is a puncher, right? Khan beats him that proves he can beat punchers?
Bradley only has 11 stoppage wins to his name. He's not a big puncher. If Khan fights him I supppose it's more proof he's ducking punchers? ;D
Maybe he does have a china chin, but that's not all I am thinking about.
If your chin isn't the strongest and you really want to show that you are something then you should challenge yourself. Khan has been crafty with the matchmaking thus far, bar Prescott.
The Prescott point is a simple one like I've said before. It avenges a loss and fixes a short term need for an opponent. Nothing less, nothing more.
A Bradley fight would be far more desirable. I like Bradley a lot and though he doesn't have many knockouts, I think he can punch. I wouldn't deny that as a good matchup, of course I prefer that over Prescott.
That's nonsesne.
So Prescott is better than Barrera, Kotelnik and Powderpuff?
Khan has stepped up to world class since his defeat and shown a massive improvement. That's why he is currently rated the 3rd best 140lber in the world.
I don't see why that is nonsense. Everyone is knocking you for something then you should want to prove them wrong, it's human nature. The matchmaking has been superb and that is undeniable.
Barrera wasn't beaten so let's subtract that one.
Now Kotelnik and Paulie are the two weakest punchers in the division. You can say that he has stepped up, but I will cynically suggest that he has been matched up. He hasn't faced an opponent who can tickle him let alone challenge him. 3rd best fighter at 140? Off of Kotelnik and a Paulie who has had 1 fight at 140 since Hatton? No, I don't buy into it at all.
Name who is better at 140?
Fenster, you are so forthright and demanding. I give you perfectly valid opinions and you tell me I am talking nonsense and now I am being ordered to produce a list. I want Khan to face the same opponents as others do:
Bradley
Maidana
Ortiz
Urango
Alexander
Each of these guys can either box, punch or even do a bit of both. If none can be fit in then Prescott will do. Katisidis will do fine too, but he isn't a 140'er. But Khan should face a puncher and that's the point that will be made until he does so.
Are you saying all of those guys are better??
The only ones you could definitively argue are Bradley and Alexander. Is Urango really better?? Let me guess if Khan beat Urango he'd get shit for picking on Alexander's leftovers. Same if he fights Ortiz now, he'd get stick for not fighting Maidana, who of course would be one-dimensional if he beat him.
I really am starting to think Khan may have pound for pound potential, not based on what he's done in the ring, but on the fact that only Mayweather & Pacquaio get their acheivements so ludicrously downgraded.
I would never say they are better unless Khan defeated them, but in there you have an array of punchers and boxers who will check that chin. Urango would be a move beyond Paulie as he has a punch and arguably gave Hatton more trouble than Paulie did.
But I refuse to rate Khan all that highly on the back of what he has done. I think it is very clever how they have played it, and I will be very surprised to see them go head deep into the division. I'll be impressed if they do, but I doubt it.
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What questions miles?
You still haven't realised Khan has a china chin?
So Prescott is a puncher, right? Khan beats him that proves he can beat punchers?
Bradley only has 11 stoppage wins to his name. He's not a big puncher. If Khan fights him I supppose it's more proof he's ducking punchers? ;D
Maybe he does have a china chin, but that's not all I am thinking about.
If your chin isn't the strongest and you really want to show that you are something then you should challenge yourself. Khan has been crafty with the matchmaking thus far, bar Prescott.
The Prescott point is a simple one like I've said before. It avenges a loss and fixes a short term need for an opponent. Nothing less, nothing more.
A Bradley fight would be far more desirable. I like Bradley a lot and though he doesn't have many knockouts, I think he can punch. I wouldn't deny that as a good matchup, of course I prefer that over Prescott.
That's nonsesne.
So Prescott is better than Barrera, Kotelnik and Powderpuff?
Khan has stepped up to world class since his defeat and shown a massive improvement. That's why he is currently rated the 3rd best 140lber in the world.
I don't see why that is nonsense. Everyone is knocking you for something then you should want to prove them wrong, it's human nature. The matchmaking has been superb and that is undeniable.
Barrera wasn't beaten so let's subtract that one.
Now Kotelnik and Paulie are the two weakest punchers in the division. You can say that he has stepped up, but I will cynically suggest that he has been matched up. He hasn't faced an opponent who can tickle him let alone challenge him. 3rd best fighter at 140? Off of Kotelnik and a Paulie who has had 1 fight at 140 since Hatton? No, I don't buy into it at all.
Name who is better at 140?
Fenster, you are so forthright and demanding. I give you perfectly valid opinions and you tell me I am talking nonsense and now I am being ordered to produce a list. I want Khan to face the same opponents as others do:
Bradley
Maidana
Ortiz
Urango
Alexander
Each of these guys can either box, punch or even do a bit of both. If none can be fit in then Prescott will do. Katisidis will do fine too, but he isn't a 140'er. But Khan should face a puncher and that's the point that will be made until he does so.
This is the reason your argument about Khan not stepping up since Prescott is nonsense.
Kotelnik beat Maidana. Maidana beat Ortiz. Khan beat Kotelnik. So Khan already has a formline that puts him above two of your guys, which obviously makes him one of the best at 140.
Of course any fight with those guys would be great. The best fighting the best. But should Khan not fight any of those next, or Prescott, your gonna slag him, right? ;D
You can look at it that way, but styles makes fights, Fenster. When one of those fighters has a weak chin it changes the whole pattern. Ortiz has a questionable heart too IMO.
But there is no reason for Khan not to face any of the fighters I have listed.
As for the whole slag him off argument, you have been on that point a fair while now and I have explained myself already. You know we are not going to agree, so there is no need to draw me in. If Khan can prove himself a chinworthy champ then all is good, but if not then I was right. The argument is as simple as that.
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I would never say they are better unless Khan defeated them, but in there you have an array of punchers and boxers who will check that chin. Urango would be a move beyond Paulie as he has a punch and arguably gave Hatton more trouble than Paulie did.
But I refuse to rate Khan all that highly on the back of what he has done. I think it is very clever how they have played it, and I will be very surprised to see them go head deep into the division. I'll be impressed if they do, but I doubt it.
Paulie is a better fighter than Urango. Also if Khan fought and beat Urango, can you honestly say you wouldn't just say 'well he was fighting Alexander's sloppy seconds'?
He's said he wants to fight Maidana next, very clearly at the end of the last fight. What more would you want from him?
Btw, what's your take on the fact that Paulie said that Khan is a better fighter than Hatton, and as good as Cotto?
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I would never say they are better unless Khan defeated them, but in there you have an array of punchers and boxers who will check that chin. Urango would be a move beyond Paulie as he has a punch and arguably gave Hatton more trouble than Paulie did.
But I refuse to rate Khan all that highly on the back of what he has done. I think it is very clever how they have played it, and I will be very surprised to see them go head deep into the division. I'll be impressed if they do, but I doubt it.
Paulie is a better fighter than Urango. Also if Khan fought and beat Urango, can you honestly say you wouldn't just say 'well he was fighting Alexander's sloppy seconds'?
He's said he wants to fight Maidana next, very clearly at the end of the last fight. What more would you want from him?
Btw, what's your take on the fact that Paulie said that Khan is a better fighter than Hatton, and as good as Cotto?
Paulie is a better boxer than Urango, but would he get through 12 rounds with him? We don't know. Paulie spent a year underweight with Diaz.
You know, I'm getting tired of repeating myself. I've said this elsewhere, I was impressed with Khans post fight interview! It's one of the reasons I haven't been all that harsh on him since. I think there is clever match making going on, but those words sounded alright to me! If he follows through then all the props too him just like I said earlier in this thread. Fenster has been baiting me, but I made my points clear earlier on.
As for Paulie's opinions. Khan throws more combo's but Hatton stalks and hits you. I suppose Paulie prefers the combos. Hatton hurt him a LOT more though, whence the dull fight we got. Paulie just doesn't like it.
