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How would he do?
Would he KO David Haye in three rounds?
Would he beat Wlav and Vitali?
Would he be able to stop Tyson Fury? ;D
Been bored at work today so been daydreaming about the prospect to be honest.
I have all of his fights on DVD but I wish I was young enough to remember him 'in his prime'.
A prime Tyson against these 2010 heavweights would look like this -
Wlad unconcious in 1
Haye unconcious in 1
Viatli beat to a pulp in 6
Fury wins by KO.... on Twitter.
hahah ;D
Everyone in the division would be beat. Btw if Killersheep is still looking for Lyle he might as well stick around he'll be coming in this thread.
Tyson beats all of them. Vitali would be the most resiliant, but even he would be forced to surrender. He would eat too much and find Tyson too hard to hit. Today's heavyweights suck and they really do. Vitali, Wlad and Haye. And then....Arreola? Chambers? Valuev? Peter?
Tyson would eat all of these guys for dinner. Arreola would try to eat Tyson for dinner, but that's a different kind of thing.
None of them go past 3 rounds except Vitali who loses on pts
When thinking of Tysons ability thats the main one that people tend to forget about, he just couldnt be hit! He was fighting much fitter and skilled fighters and they just couldnt nail him. Only when King intervened and Mike wasnt being trained properly did he start getting hit. It happened right after the Spinks fight. The Tyson that fought Spinks would have nothing to fear in todays division, other than Vitali Klitschko maybe hanging on for dear life like Smith did;DQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Tyson would absolutely smash Wladamir! Imagine Tyson in front of him just bobbing under his dopey jab and ripping uppercuts and hooks from both hands;D
Mike in the Seventies would be more fun and you know what? Fighters back then got intimidated too, just look how Norton shiit a brick when he fought Foreman. Fuuck me if Lyle can put Foreman nearly out Tyson would find that chin with ease! Anyone who gets hit easy is not gonna hear the first bell against that Spinks version of Mike! I reckon Joe Frazier goes the same way as his son did, a quicker version of what the lumbering Foreman did!;D
I bloody love Mike. I just hope this rumour about Tyson/Holyfield III is just a rumour. It was bad enough seeing him lose to Danny Williams and Kevin McBridge - I can't deal with any more heartache. :eek:
Personally he beats most , but i think Vitali would stop him in 6-8 , Tyson had no guts.
Today's division as it stands..both klits beat him quite easily. Haye goes to sleep.
Tyson would beat them all but would get bored and run off with King and not train and get screwed by a woman and dumps his white managers and probably lose to Tyson Fury in Tokyo.
If a prime mike Tyson was around in today's heavyweight division then everyone and I repeat everyone is in a shit load of trouble. He gos thru them all, of corse wlad and vitali have the best shot a beating him, but I think Tyson knocks wlad the fukk out, and vitali, maybe a points win. of corse there's no such thing as a sure thing,but a prime mike Tyson beats them all IMO
I'm probably being a saddo for pointing this out but it was McBride, not that it is of any significance in the wider world.Quote:
Originally Posted by koppas
It was McBride. It was a typo. You pedantic fool. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milesI'm probably being a saddo for pointing this out but it was McBride, not that it is of any significance in the wider world.Quote:
Originally Posted by koppas
Another misconception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Just because he was so far superior to his peers, so much so that at the time he looked invincible, that his skills were so great he made quick and easy work of a whole division doesnt mean he had no guts. Its not Mikes fault he wasnt the 30 odd year old version of himself in the 80's, therefore being more on an even keel with everyone else.
Tony Tucker, Tony Tubbs, Pinklon Thomas and even a 38 year old Holmes would walk through todays division;)
I have to go with Tyson Ko-es all but Vitali. I think V Klit has some of the best boxing skills in a long time for being such a big puncher. Mike would have a lot of difficulty with a guy that can jab and throw a right hand downhill that hard. But 20-22 year-old Tyson??? Just don't blink or anything, you might miss the whole fight. Tyson Fury is just unbeatable.
Oh yeah, Mike Tyson was pretty good too I hear.
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Originally Posted by rossAnother misconception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Just because he was so far superior to his peers, so much so that at the time he looked invincible, that his skills were so great he made quick and easy work of a whole division doesnt mean he had no guts. Its not Mikes fault he wasnt the 30 odd year old version of himself in the 80's, therefore being more on an even keel with everyone else.
Tony Tucker, Tony Tubbs, Pinklon Thomas and even a 38 year old Holmes would walk through todays division;)
Tyson's resume is super weak..not hard to be that superior...
I stand by the opinion of Tyson was extremely overrated... Most of his fights were won before the frist bell even rang... Once he lost his edge, that was it... I think he would have more trouble dealing with the Klits then whats being discussed so far, but overall i think he would be able to be top dog.
Man the HW div. sucks!!!
He'd have trouble with the Klitschko's , but he'd beat both I think. A prime Vitali beats and Prime Tyson though
A prime Vitali pussied out in a fight with Chris Byrd;DQuote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
He couldnt finish the show against an old Lennox Lewis! A young Mike Tyson would make quick work of him;)
Young, fit, conditioned and technically adept Tyson would bulldoze through today's heavyweight division like a Sherman tank through a cornfield.
He would do exactly what he did in the 80's ...... terrify everyone, blow people away like nobody before or since and revitalise the sport once again.
Young Mike Tyson was a fearsome proposition, an electrifying a performer as has ever stepped into the ring and I think he would have been competitive in any era.
We will soon see, Richard Towers is like a 6ft 8 Tyson!
What are you saying, those guy could beat Tyson C'mon!!!
Huh? Oh! You mean not all of them at the same time :biglaugh:
Who are some of these prime A rated heavies that he blew through?Quote:
Originally Posted by X
Michael Spinks, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs and Razor Rudduck could have been considered that also at the time, at least very dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Dont say that Spinks wasnt an A rated heavy either because at the time he was.
Its like saying that Holyfield, Toney, Jones and Haye arent proper heavies because they moved up, although some id agree on but they all beat genuine defending champions, although Toney cheated.
Spinks had to beat a much better heavy weight to get his title at heavy than any of those.
Also, Mike flattened a Holmes that was much closer to his prime than the one that Holyfield struggled with.;D
It's a fair point - but we always deride the opposition when someone has been very dominant. Look at what people say about marciano's opponents, or RJJ's more recently. It is harder for the opposition to build up their reputations when someone dominates a division so thoroughly.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Arguably, the fact that Ali had a three year layoff made his opposition seem stronger as they had been vfery successful in his absence. Had Ali fought Frazier when he was inexperienced (and he probably would have, as he would have cleaned up the division by then), Frazier would by now me regarded as an 'also ran' just like some of Tysons opponents. Don't think I'm putting Joe down, as he is one of my favourite fighters ..... my point is that Yyson fought everybody around (with the exception of Bowe) and generally iced them all when he was in his prime.
that was spinks last fight EVER...holmes was 39...tucker was solid...holyfield grew into being a real heavy, as did toney, jones never had any intention of staying up there and competing with lennox or the klits...Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMichael Spinks, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs and Razor Rudduck could have been considered that also at the time, at least very dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Dont say that Spinks wasnt an A rated heavy either because at the time he was.
Its like saying that Holyfield, Toney, Jones and Haye arent proper heavies because they moved up, although some id agree on but they all beat genuine defending champions, although Toney cheated.
Spinks had to beat a much better heavy weight to get his title at heavy than any of those.
Also, Mike flattened a Holmes that was much closer to his prime than the one that Holyfield struggled with.;D
The fact remains that Mike had better quality opponents than Evander and Lennox and ripped through them, Evanders best win was over Bowe who was made to go 10 with a fighter (Tubbs) that Mike put away in 2 and Mike did it 3 years earlier!Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherthat was spinks last fight EVER...holmes was 39...tucker was solid...holyfield grew into being a real heavy, as did toney, jones never had any intention of staying up there and competing with lennox or the klits...Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMichael Spinks, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs and Razor Rudduck could have been considered that also at the time, at least very dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Dont say that Spinks wasnt an A rated heavy either because at the time he was.
Its like saying that Holyfield, Toney, Jones and Haye arent proper heavies because they moved up, although some id agree on but they all beat genuine defending champions, although Toney cheated.
Spinks had to beat a much better heavy weight to get his title at heavy than any of those.
Also, Mike flattened a Holmes that was much closer to his prime than the one that Holyfield struggled with.;D
Lennoxs best opponent was Evander and after only managing a draw he got a gift decision, both got beaten in their primes. When Mike was in his prime and not with King he looked unstoppable and ruined a division, after he beat Berbick, he succusfully defended the title 9 times while also unifying and leaving no doubt who the best in the division was. He was what you call dominant.
Whereas Lewis could only make 3 defences after just being given the title before being sparked by a journeyman and Holyfield could also only manage 3.
Neither could replicate how dominant Tyson was, 9 defences and 6 as unified undisputed (all 3 titles) champ, when you look at the figures, thats when you see how special Mike was back then.;)
In the words of Denzel - "my man!"Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Great post.
A look through the stats shows he fought many boxers who were in their peaks, I know stats don't tell the full story, but he fought many people who had 0/1/2 losses on their records and were on the back on winning streaks.
See here:
Mike Tyson - Boxer
I think in his prime he would have torn apart any heavyweight ever made, his speed, power and elusiveness would have been too much for any of them. Shame he went off the rails or he would have had an incredible legacy, he would have been undisputed best ever.
;DQuote:
Originally Posted by koppasIn the words of Denzel - "my man!"Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Great post.
I dont think we will ever see an undisputed champion make 6 defences ever again, in any weight, let alone heavy, especially in the short time frame Mike managed.