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the term "the best defense is offense" is used frequently in boxing, and there are plenty of fighters who take it to heart and well it basically sums up their fighting style, so i thought that we should just name a couple on here
Holyfield early in his career was an all offense fighter same could be said bout Hatton
Sensational Davey Moore is a guy I remember who was exciting and almost no defense back in the early/mid 1980's.
Terry Norris certainly could box, but often he chose to ignore defense and attack.
Tyson attacked most of the time but had a good defence.
My mind went to Tyson too. He was hand molded to utilize his own shape and size for it.
Alot of it was in the mind, in his and his opponents.
Naz was all offensive and hard to hit; but he accomplished it for other reasons blending flexibility and power from his legs and hips bringing him back into the line of fire after being completely off balance when ever he was attacked (which really annoyed most strict traditional boxing minds).
Some middle of the road fighters who have been guided gently through a career
get all offensive but end up paying for it when someone has a bigger heart and keeps their cool, balance and power.
I like watching the wheels come off of buses like that :D.
Tyson, Foreman, and Joe Frazier...those guys used their power more specifically the threat of their power as a defense which is why in some of their fights you see guys afraid to throw punches at them. Wladimir Klitschko's jab and hooking off the jab is used to protect range and keep his opponent at distance therefore limiting any solid retaliation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I always think of high-volume pressure fighters when I hear the term offense as defense, but I think Lyle makes a good point about guys like Foreman who just terrified people into inaction.
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Originally Posted by CFH
And his drugs;D Cheating twat!Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprenticeTyson, Foreman, and Joe Frazier...those guys used their power more specifically the threat of their power as a defense which is why in some of their fights you see guys afraid to throw punches at them. Wladimir Klitschko's jab and hooking off the jab is used to protect range and keep his opponent at distance therefore limiting any solid retaliation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
On subject its true, when I boxed you can slow your opponent down by throwing some good hard shots and it allows you more time to think while they are hesitating.
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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice.....aaaahhh, it never gets old ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Yeah if you interrupt their movement they think,if they think they slow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossAnd his drugs;D Cheating twat!Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprenticeTyson, Foreman, and Joe Frazier...those guys used their power more specifically the threat of their power as a defense which is why in some of their fights you see guys afraid to throw punches at them. Wladimir Klitschko's jab and hooking off the jab is used to protect range and keep his opponent at distance therefore limiting any solid retaliation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
On subject its true, when I boxed you can slow your opponent down by throwing some good hard shots and it allows you more time to think while they are hesitating.
I suppose technically speaking, a straight thrown over the outside of an in coming jab,deflecting it and landing is probably the fastest offence as defense.
Nigel Benn was all out vicious attack particularly in the early days.
I've been trying to figure out who to pick in the Cotto-Foreman fight for the Prediction Contest, so I've been doing some reading about the fight (yes, I am that much of a loser) and I came across an article that said Miguel Cotto's offense was his defense and I figured I'd see if you guys agreed with that. I'm not sure I do, Cotto's not the type of relentless pressure fighter or huge puncher that I associate with the offense as defense crowd. I think Cotto's simply a very good offensive fighter with somewhat mediocre defense, if that makes sense - I'm not sure if it does.
if we are talking about using offense as a method of defence then you cant look past calzaghe
Threw a shit load of non power punches but still managed to put his opponent on the back foot
I could be totally off-base here, but when I've watched Calzaghe fight he's always struck as the type of fighter who had the skills and reflexes to be effective defensively even when not throwing a million punches.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer
Cotto and Calzahghe would not be fighters that you would consider "offensivley defensive".
Both can box the ear of opponents using their distance and skills.
I'm truly amazed you managed to get Wlad into a thread about offensive fighters! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprenticeTyson, Foreman, and Joe Frazier...those guys used their power more specifically the threat of their power as a defense which is why in some of their fights you see guys afraid to throw punches at them. Wladimir Klitschko's jab and hooking off the jab is used to protect range and keep his opponent at distance therefore limiting any solid retaliation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Lyle always drops in a klit now and then. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfanI'm truly amazed you managed to get Wlad into a thread about offensive fighters! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprenticeTyson, Foreman, and Joe Frazier...those guys used their power more specifically the threat of their power as a defense which is why in some of their fights you see guys afraid to throw punches at them. Wladimir Klitschko's jab and hooking off the jab is used to protect range and keep his opponent at distance therefore limiting any solid retaliation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Well given the title of the thread I figured he fit the mold....his offense and the threat of his punching power keeps the guys he fights from attacking him. What's wrong with mentioning that? The constant use of his jab has really limited Wlad's need for defense (eventhough his defense has improved)Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan