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With so much money on the line I dont think they are gonna pass this thing by but in case they do, how do you guys feel about a close to the trilogy against Marquez? I read somewhere that Arum through his name out there in case the fight with Money May isnt made.
Personally I think JMM is past and gets destroyed by this version of Manny.
What do you guys think?
panocha would take this fight, i mean, why not? he knows marquez is an old fighter and wouldn't stand a chance of beating him. why didn't fight him when marquez was still a viable and dangerous opponent? another cherrypicking episode in the life of pacquiao aka panocha!
Well, Floyd got there first, that's why. Also Pac fought JMM at his optimal weight twice alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Nah, troll. It's more like another envious, sourgraping episode in the loser, hateful pathetic life of yours. But back to the topic. I think GBP and TR can make this fight more interesting if they let JMM choose the weightclass that are they gonna be fighting. I think Pac can still make 135.Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
sourgraping? nah. you see, i don't get too high on any fighters like you pactardos do. you know why? because as a mexican boxing fan, i know we have many, many more solid champions, contenders and a million or so prospects we can look forward to. how about you! can you say the same? and what's going to happen when your pacroido decides to call it quits? tell me little man!!! lol
I doubt Pac can get to 135 comfortably anymore but I can see them meeting at 140. And I don't see how everybody Floyd beats is all of a sudden old. JMM and Pac would still be fireworks. JMM didn't look old at all against Floyd he just couldn't touch him. Thats a common theme with Floyd opponents. We'll see how JMM looks against Diaz. If JMM looks good against Diaz then its not valid to say afterwards that JMM was past it if Pac decides to take him in a needed trilogy. Yes, fighters can get old from one fight to the next but nobody can foretell this overnight aging so Pac or any other fighter can't be blamed for guesswork. What I don't want to see is Pac forcing Cotto to relinquish his 154 title at a catchweight. Cotto is a throwback but he will do anything Arum says. He needs to hire an advisor.
the fact that you're shameless enough to back up a cheater (Margarito) and tout him as an ATG, speaks volumes about you, and yea wanna go that route well P4P we (Puerto Rico) hold the record for most champions (per capita) in the history of boxing ;), i've said it time and time again, you're not a BOXING fan, you're just as bad as the Pactards lolQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Where have I been during this cherry picking? :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Clottey
Cotto
DLH
Hatton
JMM
Diaz
Solis Morales
Larios....
Some real cherry picking going on there
His last 10 opp have a combined record of 397-23 and 3 of the 10 outsized him I mean what a disgrace...How much farther to the bottom of the barrel could he go?
23 losses between them!!!!!!! Manny certainly does look for the easy fights for sure
el terrible,
whoa there partner, wake up on the wrong side of the bed? hold onto your little panties there champion! first of all, i've never said anything negative about puerto rican fighters. i think they have as much heart as anyone in the world. i will also agree that p4p, they are the best fighters in the world, bar none! and what's up with sucking up to these pactardos? i mean, i don't think it's in the nature of puerto ricans to do that, is it? listen, i absolutely admire puerto rican fighters. wilfredo gomez is my all-time favorite. today, my favorite is miguel angel cotto. i'm not sucking up, i'm just saying the truth. about margarito, yes, i am a fan of his. whata gonna do, kill me? and why did you get all in your little pink panties when i wrote i was a fan of mexican boxing? does this offend you? you like puerto rican boxing, i like mexican boxing, so what, get over it. anyways, for what it's worth, i have nothing against you but a little advise from me to you, quit acting like a little madonna otherwise i'm going to think you are one of those guys that shaves in between your eye brows!
You tell em' Millie MascaraQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
daxxkhan,
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lol...
first off boy, i'm a fan of BOXING period, i take pride in what Puerto Rican fighters accomplish but i don't blind myself into thinking that there aren't better fighters from other countries as you so ignorantly do, second, i'm not sucking up to anyone i can't stand any of the so called Pacquiao fans that boast about Manny being P4P #1 without knowing jackshit about boxing or what is going on, i poke at them with the steroid shit cause it gets a reaction out of them, but no one can say with certainty if Manny Pacquiao has cheated or not, they can scream without a shadow of a doubt that Margarito is a no good cheater, unlike you i'm no internet warrior so i won't get into ridiculous name calling, but seriously you're one of the worst posters on here and don't really contribute shitQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
el terrible,
and tell me tough guy, where is there proof that margarito ever used illegal wraps in an actual fight? proof? you can't. maybe you are just butt hurt cause margarito KO'd cotto. is that it? and i'll say it again, tu eres un lambe culo a los pactardos. me entiendes! creo que el porque te gusta quitar el pelo del medio de tus ojos.
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Originally Posted by milmascaras1
While I agree there is no proof Margarito used ileagle wraps during a fight he was caught attempting to use them....Makes it hard to not question the past no?
daxx,
again, where is the proof? if you had a gun and was thinking of shooting someone, but you got caught before you did the crime, did you actually shoot someone? i know what margarito did was incomprehensible but he never got caught fighting with loaded gloves. i'm not condoning what he or his trainer did but the guy did get fined and got banned from boxing for a year. he did his time and now i believe he has the right to make money to support his family.
you are the poster boy for the naive, he decided to risk it knowing damned well what was going to happen if he got caught, and if he wouldn't have gotten caught he would have gone through with the fight either way and would have basically gone on to beat on a 38 yr old Mosley with bricks in his gloves, so where was the compassion there? why the hell should we have sympathy for Margarito, he's no better than Luis Resto, difference is if we only go by what can be proven Margarito was caught before he could do the damageQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
That may be so but the much celebrated Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry is clearly in Mexico's favorQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesthe fact that you're shameless enough to back up a cheater (Margarito) and tout him as an ATG, speaks volumes about you, and yea wanna go that route well P4P we (Puerto Rico) hold the record for most champions (per capita) in the history of boxing ;), i've said it time and time again, you're not a BOXING fan, you're just as bad as the Pactards lolQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
not in recent years ;), last Saturday was another display of how that's been playing out lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThat may be so but the much celebrated Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry is clearly in Mexico's favorQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesthe fact that you're shameless enough to back up a cheater (Margarito) and tout him as an ATG, speaks volumes about you, and yea wanna go that route well P4P we (Puerto Rico) hold the record for most champions (per capita) in the history of boxing ;), i've said it time and time again, you're not a BOXING fan, you're just as bad as the Pactards lolQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Man you should be ashamed of yourself trying to use Calderon-Iribe as an example. Considering Iribe status. But fuck it. You can keep it. It's a very minor one anyway. The last significant fight in the rivary was Saul Alvarez whipping on Jose Cotto. Later on we gonna have Fernando Montiel raping Eric Morel.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesnot in recent years ;), last Saturday was another display of how that's been playing out lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThat may be so but the much celebrated Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry is clearly in Mexico's favorQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesthe fact that you're shameless enough to back up a cheater (Margarito) and tout him as an ATG, speaks volumes about you, and yea wanna go that route well P4P we (Puerto Rico) hold the record for most champions (per capita) in the history of boxing ;), i've said it time and time again, you're not a BOXING fan, you're just as bad as the Pactards lolQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Neither of these diva's give a sh!t about money.... Even though one says it's the ONLY decision making factor in his life.... The fight won't happen..... The final big fight of their careers is not going to happen in the ring, it's the fight against each other regarding "Principle",,,,, which is completely boring as f'ck from a spectators perspective... But that's the only fight we'll get from them...Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixAA;887650[B
Personally why the hell not have a Pac JMM, people will watch it and the JMM fans can watch Manny beat him properly this time and the debate will be over about who was the better fighter overall..
Manny versus Marquez 3 will likely never happen. There are simply far more lucrative fights for Manny available at this point. And for those who say he's "ducking" Marquez, he fought the guy twice....how can that be ducking? I know some thought Marquez won both fights. Fine, but neither was a robbery. Both could have gone either way. I had Pac winning both: had Marquez winning in rounds 7-5 in the first fight but the 3 first round KDs gave Pac the 113-112 win on my scorecard. Had the 2nd fight 6-6 in rounds with Pac winning 114-113 on points due to the 2nd round KD. Both legitimate scores, as was a victory for Marquez by a point or two. But Pac fought him twice and has no economic reason to do so again , so let's stop with the "ducking" talk. It is simply retarded when he already fought him twice.
lol nah fuck that i'm hoping Arce pulls a rabbit out of his ass and beats Morel, can't stand the dude hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMan you should be ashamed of yourself trying to use Calderon-Iribe as an example. Considering Iribe status. But fuck it. You can keep it. It's a very minor one anyway. The last significant fight in the rivary was Saul Alvarez whipping on Jose Cotto. Later on we gonna have Fernando Montiel raping Eric Morel.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesnot in recent years ;), last Saturday was another display of how that's been playing out lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThat may be so but the much celebrated Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry is clearly in Mexico's favorQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesthe fact that you're shameless enough to back up a cheater (Margarito) and tout him as an ATG, speaks volumes about you, and yea wanna go that route well P4P we (Puerto Rico) hold the record for most champions (per capita) in the history of boxing ;), i've said it time and time again, you're not a BOXING fan, you're just as bad as the Pactards lolQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
:vd: Arce ain't fighting himQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleslol nah fuck that i'm hoping Arce pulls a rabbit out of his ass and beats Morel, can't stand the dude hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMan you should be ashamed of yourself trying to use Calderon-Iribe as an example. Considering Iribe status. But fuck it. You can keep it. It's a very minor one anyway. The last significant fight in the rivary was Saul Alvarez whipping on Jose Cotto. Later on we gonna have Fernando Montiel raping Eric Morel.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesnot in recent years ;), last Saturday was another display of how that's been playing out lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThat may be so but the much celebrated Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry is clearly in Mexico's favorQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesthe fact that you're shameless enough to back up a cheater (Margarito) and tout him as an ATG, speaks volumes about you, and yea wanna go that route well P4P we (Puerto Rico) hold the record for most champions (per capita) in the history of boxing ;), i've said it time and time again, you're not a BOXING fan, you're just as bad as the Pactards lolQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
my bad, i had read an article where they were set to fight on the Chavez/Duddy undercardQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise:vd: Arce ain't fighting himQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleslol nah fuck that i'm hoping Arce pulls a rabbit out of his ass and beats Morel, can't stand the dude hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMan you should be ashamed of yourself trying to use Calderon-Iribe as an example. Considering Iribe status. But fuck it. You can keep it. It's a very minor one anyway. The last significant fight in the rivary was Saul Alvarez whipping on Jose Cotto. Later on we gonna have Fernando Montiel raping Eric Morel.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesnot in recent years ;), last Saturday was another display of how that's been playing out lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThat may be so but the much celebrated Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry is clearly in Mexico's favorQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesthe fact that you're shameless enough to back up a cheater (Margarito) and tout him as an ATG, speaks volumes about you, and yea wanna go that route well P4P we (Puerto Rico) hold the record for most champions (per capita) in the history of boxing ;), i've said it time and time again, you're not a BOXING fan, you're just as bad as the Pactards lolQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Marquez should let it stand as is.
In my opinion Marquez already proved he was the better fighter of two, depsite the official record. So fighting Manny at his stage would be a mistake. It would tip the scales in Pac's favor and diminsih the argument for Marquez winning the first two.
50 years from now the fans will just see a one sided victory for Manny in the last fight.
another remarkable remark from a :bashtroll4cx4:Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
this is a good example of a DISTORTED REASONING...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
and in Pacquiao's case, is there any proof that Pacquiao has used PED's?Shameless...;D
your reasoning needs to be examined. though I do agree that Margarito should be given a second chance because there's no evidence suggesting he knew about the wrap and he did his time. Even though I feel his whole crew should be banned to deter any future occurrence, because that shiet ain't no joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
but back on topic, PAC would demolish the same JMM that Maywheather fought. Too fat and too slow.
Pac should fight someone at light middle like Cotto.
JMM should stay at lightweight.
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Originally Posted by jolzthis is a good example of a DISTORTED REASONING...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
and in Pacquiao's case, is there any proof that Pacquiao has used PED's?Shameless...;D
While I agree on the fact that there is no proof about any other illegal using of wraps of Margarito in the past fact is it does look shady?...I mean especially when so many of his past KO victims state they never were hit so hard and the amount of damage Maragrito left on them was beyond that of just ba normal boxing beating.......
The difference between Tony and Manny is Tony was actually caught in the process of trying to cheat Manny has not all he did was not comply with something Mayweather told him to do....Nothing else in favor of the arguement that Manny has ever used anything...Just Floyds accusing and Manny not doing what Floyd said....Last I knew that is not a cheat and Floyd is no fucking body other then a fighter he holds zero zip nnada when it comes to anything outside the ring