-
Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
That would be cool if Manny won a 8th title against a 154 cotto, but i would really like to see hm and juan ma one more time. Margarito is a bad style fight for manny. You can say all margacheato would do would be walk into manny's punches but the dude has alot of height and reach...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSUb1la809o
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
mellamomarcos
That would be cool if Manny won a 8th title against a 154 cotto, but i would really like to see hm and juan ma one more time. Margarito is a bad style fight for manny. You can say all margacheato would do would be walk into manny's punches but the dude has alot of height and reach...
Nobody here wants to see that based on the fact that Margarito should pay people to have the right for walking in a ring.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
I don't care to see Pac fight anyone besides mayweather. He already beat Cotto and i don't see him losing to Margarito even though it would probably be a fun fight to watch. Margarito's reach has to be a HUGE amount over Pac, but Margarito needs time to wear down his fighters with his shots. I don't see him finding Pac even close to what he would need to be effective. He'd be a punching bag for Pac, but would obviously keep coming, which would make it fun to watch, but i don't have a doubt on the outcome.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
RP33
I don't care to see Pac fight anyone besides mayweather. He already beat Cotto and i don't see him losing to Margarito even though it would probably be a fun fight to watch. Margarito's reach has to be a HUGE amount over Pac, but Margarito needs time to wear down his fighters with his shots. I don't see him finding Pac even close to what he would need to be effective. He'd be a punching bag for Pac, but would obviously keep coming, which would make it fun to watch, but i don't have a doubt on the outcome.
I agree 100%. I have very little interest in watching any of those fights, especially JMM III or Cotto II. The only meaningful fight, for both fighters, if Pacquiao - Mayweather. I'm starting to think it'll never happen though. They'll probably come to terms and then scrap the whole thing because they both want their name to be first on the promotion or something stupid like that.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
All the talk and hype for this fight has gone way over the top, i could care less who either of them fought anymore. If they do great, it would be a great event. But this back and forth and them trying to mind fuck the fans is getting old. It's both of thier faults, and there's more to boxing than either of these two assholes
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
I don't think that Pacquiao-Marquez III will be that interesting since they don't belong in the same weight category anymore. I doubt that Manny will go down in weight and Juan Manuel will be a push over in Manny's current weight division (just see the Mayweather-Marquez fight).
The interest in the Pacquiao-Cotto II is for Manny to get his 8th weight division title. Other than that, I don't believe that a lot of people will give Miguel a chance of winning that fight.
Pacquiao-Margarito may be the most interesting among the three, but like a number of people, I don't believe in giving Antonio a big payday after the cheating fiasco.
I do hope that the Pacquiao-Mayweather bout materializes. If not, I'm in favor of a Pacquiao-Cotto II with no catch weight for the LEGACY. Hopefully this will give Cotto some extra advantage over what he had from the previous bout. I also know that Miguel's fan base will still support him and watch that fight.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Juan Manuel will be a push over in Manny's current weight division (just see the Mayweather-Marquez fight).
Hold on. Marquez took everything a more seasoned and accurate welter could dish out and I reckon that Mayweather is stronger and hits harder than Manny any way.
Marquez has a style that will always make Manny work. Whether or not that fight with Mayweather has ruined him or not is another matter.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ross
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Juan Manuel will be a push over in Manny's current weight division (just see the Mayweather-Marquez fight).
Hold on. Marquez took everything a more seasoned and accurate welter could dish out and I reckon that Mayweather is stronger and hits harder than Manny any way.
Marquez has a style that will always make Manny work. Whether or not that fight with Mayweather has ruined him or not is another matter.
It's not the point so much that JMM took it, I never saw Mayweather go all out on him, who knows why maybe out of respect? But JMM is fighting well above his natural weight.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Pacquiao really is a filthy cancer on this sport. I'm actually amazed he's not going for clottey.
A no holds barred cheater takes all fight against margarito would be good and would put an end to the debate as what works better. Steroids or loaded gloves.
It would be great to see Marquez beat him but i don't see that happening what with Jaun being out of the ring for so long, age, the beating he took off floyd and of course pacquiaos special dietry supplement.
cotto is an easy fight for another title.
Who know's where the pacquiao circus will go next but where ever it is it won't be anywhere near a USADA representative.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
These are OK sloppy seconds if Floyd and Pac do not agree to fight one another. Boxing will survive.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Cotto 2 or Margo is fine with me. But Marquez is not marketable imo. Not unless JMM knocks out JD inside 1 round or somethin. Marquez has got to impress people,... make them think that he'll be highly competitive against Pac. We don't want another Pacquiao-Morales 3.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
oh sure, now that marquez is old and much slower, he's no longer a viable opponent but what about when pacroido avoided marquez like the plague cause he knew he got a gift decision? you pactardos seize to amaze me. avoid them while they're dangerous and cherrypick them when they get old or when they're coming off a loss. great marketing ploy, don't ya think? ;)
-
I think a rematch vs Cotto with Steward in his corner is a lot better fight than Cotto with virtually no trainer in his corner.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu apprentice
I think a rematch vs Cotto with Steward in his corner is a lot better fight than Cotto with virtually no trainer in his corner.
I agree with you here. Besides, Manny will have to go up another weight division and if he is to fight Cotto, let there be NO Catchweight.
And I don't understand why some people here still insist on Pac fighting Juan Manuel. I also agree with Howlin Mad Missy that Manny's current weight division is well above Marquez natural weight.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Quote:
Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu apprentice
I think a rematch vs Cotto with Steward in his corner is a lot better fight than Cotto with virtually no trainer in his corner.
I agree with you here. Besides, Manny will have to go up another weight division and if he is to fight Cotto, let there be NO Catchweight.
And I don't understand why some people here still insist on Pac fighting Juan Manuel. I also agree with Howlin Mad Missy that Manny's current weight division is well above Marquez natural weight.
well i just read in the newspaper today, that if a Cotto rematch happens for Cotto's 154 lb title it would have to be at a catchweight at Pacquiao's insistence :rolleyes:, pretty ridiculous seeing how he fought Clottey at 147 and was willing to take Foreman on at the full 154 lb limit, bunch of bullshit
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Whats up with thmanny jump down and fight the top 140is flip fightin the same guys over and over.jmm is over the hill now.phuck that fight marge is slower than that peice of shit david diaz cotto is no good ............pac should drop down to 140 and fight the top 3 champions in that division.wwdivision right now sucks bigtime............
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Quote:
Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu apprentice
I think a rematch vs Cotto with Steward in his corner is a lot better fight than Cotto with virtually no trainer in his corner.
I agree with you here. Besides, Manny will have to go up another weight division and if he is to fight Cotto, let there be NO Catchweight.
And I don't understand why some people here still insist on Pac fighting Juan Manuel. I also agree with Howlin Mad Missy that Manny's current weight division is well above Marquez natural weight.
well
i just read in the newspaper today, that if a Cotto rematch happens for Cotto's 154 lb title it would have to be at a catchweight at Pacquiao's insistence :rolleyes:, pretty ridiculous seeing how he fought Clottey at 147 and was willing to take Foreman on at the full 154 lb limit, bunch of bullshit
Don't believe everything you read in the papers. If Manny is actually going to fight Miguel at a catchweight, I will not give him credit if he wins that fight.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Cotto will not make the same mistake twice and give weight away he needs every advantage, besides Pac man will feel he could beat him again at any weight because he was that dominant. I hope Cotto wins this time.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Quote:
Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu apprentice
I think a rematch vs Cotto with Steward in his corner is a lot better fight than Cotto with virtually no trainer in his corner.
I agree with you here. Besides, Manny will have to go up another weight division and if he is to fight Cotto, let there be NO Catchweight.
And I don't understand why some people here still insist on Pac fighting Juan Manuel. I also agree with Howlin Mad Missy that Manny's current weight division is well above Marquez natural weight.
well
i just read in the newspaper today, that if a Cotto rematch happens for Cotto's 154 lb title it would have to be at a catchweight at Pacquiao's insistence :rolleyes:, pretty ridiculous seeing how he fought Clottey at 147 and was willing to take Foreman on at the full 154 lb limit, bunch of bullshit
Don't believe everything you read in the papers. If Manny is actually going to fight Miguel at a catchweight, I will not give him credit if he wins that fight.
you can't completely discredit it though, El Nuevo Dia is no The Sun, they get it right more times than not, and well Pacquiao's already pulled the bullshit once i wouldn't be shocked if he did it again
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Quote:
Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu apprentice
I think a rematch vs Cotto with Steward in his corner is a lot better fight than Cotto with virtually no trainer in his corner.
I agree with you here. Besides, Manny will have to go up another weight division and if he is to fight Cotto, let there be NO Catchweight.
And I don't understand why some people here still insist on Pac fighting Juan Manuel. I also agree with Howlin Mad Missy that Manny's current weight division is well above Marquez natural weight.
well
i just read in the newspaper today, that if a Cotto rematch happens for Cotto's 154 lb title it would have to be at a catchweight at Pacquiao's insistence :rolleyes:, pretty ridiculous seeing how he fought Clottey at 147 and was willing to take Foreman on at the full 154 lb limit, bunch of bullshit
Don't believe everything you read in the papers. If Manny is actually going to fight Miguel at a catchweight, I will not give him credit if he wins that fight.
you can't completely discredit it though, El Nuevo Dia is no The Sun, they get it right more times than not, and well Pacquiao's already pulled the bullshit once i wouldn't be shocked if he did it again
You're right about that. But you, also, can't completely give it credit as though it is 100% reliable.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Quote:
Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu apprentice
I think a rematch vs Cotto with Steward in his corner is a lot better fight than Cotto with virtually no trainer in his corner.
I agree with you here. Besides, Manny will have to go up another weight division and if he is to fight Cotto, let there be NO Catchweight.
And I don't understand why some people here still insist on Pac fighting Juan Manuel. I also agree with Howlin Mad Missy that Manny's current weight division is well above Marquez natural weight.
well
i just read in the newspaper today, that if a Cotto rematch happens for Cotto's 154 lb title it would have to be at a catchweight at Pacquiao's insistence :rolleyes:, pretty ridiculous seeing how he fought Clottey at 147 and was willing to take Foreman on at the full 154 lb limit, bunch of bullshit
Don't believe everything you read in the papers. If Manny is actually going to fight Miguel at a catchweight, I will not give him credit if he wins that fight.
you can't completely discredit it though, El Nuevo Dia is no The Sun, they get it right more times than not, and well Pacquiao's already pulled the bullshit once i wouldn't be shocked if he did it again
You're right about that. But you, also, can't completely give it credit as though it is 100% reliable.
exactly, nothing is certain, there isn't even big talks of there being a rematch, i'm just saying if the catchweight bs i brought up well it'd be ridiculous
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
If ever Bobbie decided to pit him against Margarito I think I'll make one of the most violent and immature tantrum ever seen in ages as it would be thoroughly outrageous on so many levels.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hornfinger
Pacquiao really is a filthy cancer on this sport. I'm actually amazed he's not going for clottey.
A no holds barred cheater takes all fight against margarito would be good and would put an end to the debate as what works better. Steroids or loaded gloves.
It would be great to see Marquez beat him but i don't see that happening what with Jaun being out of the ring for so long, age, the beating he took off floyd and of course pacquiaos special dietry supplement.
cotto is an easy fight for another title.
Who know's where the pacquiao circus will go next but where ever it is it won't be anywhere near a USADA representative.
How can you be sure that pac is really onto steroids when up to now there is no damn proof to back up those claims? Now the ball is on floyd's camp to have the fight moving on as pac already agreed to all the terms. It is clearly being solidified that that steroid issue is nothing but bull crap.
And how can you hate a boxer who gives his all out to entertain both casual and hardcore boxing fans alike? Pac is the most exciting fighter to ever lace the gloves and you hate him? Calling it a circus is disrespect to what pac did for the sport of boxing. :rolleyes:
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
mellamomarcos
That would be cool if Manny won a 8th title against a 154 cotto, but i would really like to see hm and juan ma one more time. Margarito is a bad style fight for manny. You can say all margacheato would do would be walk into manny's punches but the dude has alot of height and reach...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSUb1la809o
Lets just keep our fingers crossed for the pbf-pac fight mella. That's the fight that really mattered now.
Now the ball is on pbf's court. We're actually waiting for those papers to be signed by money as all the conditions of the fights is already agreed upon. That steroid issue is nothing but b.s. made by a crackhead. I'm surprised many shared his opinion, like that clown teddy atlas.
If the fight does not push through, the most likely fight is the cotto for the 154 pnd title.
Jmm will be on a real fight against juan diaz this july. It would take time for him to recover on that, i'm sure. Margarito has not much drawing power as cotto or jmm. And i beg to disagree margo will have a chance to win against pac. He is tailormade for pac. Pac will beat him easily.
-
Re: Roach: "If no Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito or Marquez is next"
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
Quote:
Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
Quote:
Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu apprentice
I think a rematch vs Cotto with Steward in his corner is a lot better fight than Cotto with virtually no trainer in his corner.
I agree with you here. Besides, Manny will have to go up another weight division and if he is to fight Cotto, let there be NO Catchweight.
And I don't understand why some people here still insist on Pac fighting Juan Manuel. I also agree with Howlin Mad Missy that Manny's current weight division is well above Marquez natural weight.
well
i just read in the newspaper today, that if a Cotto rematch happens for Cotto's 154 lb title it would have to be at a catchweight at Pacquiao's insistence :rolleyes:, pretty ridiculous seeing how he fought Clottey at 147 and was willing to take Foreman on at the full 154 lb limit, bunch of bullshit
Don't believe everything you read in the papers. If Manny is actually going to fight Miguel at a catchweight, I will not give him credit if he wins that fight.
you can't completely discredit it though, El Nuevo Dia is no The Sun, they get it right more times than not, and well Pacquiao's already pulled the bullshit once i wouldn't be shocked if he did it again
Yeah, like 1 motherfuckin pound matterd to cotto. You know what weight cotto was on the scales against clottey? 146. And you are all whining that cotto lost to pac coz pac pushed that 145 pnd. catchweight upon miguel? Sore losers.
