Ross Greenburg from HBO interview on espn about future HBO fights
Ross Greenburg, HBO looking forward to second part of '10 - ESPN
Looks like zero heaveyweight fights for the forseeable future as well LOL
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Ross Greenburg from HBO interview on espn about future HBO fights
Ross Greenburg, HBO looking forward to second part of '10 - ESPN
Looks like zero heaveyweight fights for the forseeable future as well LOL
Bradley-Alexander would be a great fight, think Bradley takes it on the cards.
As for Khan, sounds about right him going after a smaller guy as usual, god forbid they ever
put him in with anyone his own size who can punch :rolleyes:
Khan's team picking on lightweights.
After his win over Paulie, they wanted Katsidis and Casamayor and when they fights didn't go down they decided to wait on the winner of Marquez/Diaz 2 (which will be Marquez).
All those fighters i mentioned are natural lightweights.
At this point it's clear Khan's choice of opponent is either too old, too small, have no power or are not close to good enough to beat him. Khan's last 5 opponents will at least equal to one of the things i named previously.
Khans last 5 opponents
Fagan ( Useless although i give Khan the benefit of the doubt because he was coming off his devestating first loss )
Barrera ( Old and Small)
Kotelnik ( Top 10 JWW and had a title but no power)
Salita (Useless)
Malignaggi ( top 5 JWW but No power)
If Khan's next opponent is Marquez, he will probably be too old and small to beat Khan especially when we don't know how much he has left after Mayweather beat him up.
Khan should be fighting Marcos Maidana next, simple as.
I hope Katsidis gets his shot at JMM.
If not where does that leave him? Who now?
If cotto does fight margacheato i hope he brings the end of Margs career closer.
Khan's people won't go anywhere near Katsidis, that would just be too dangerous a fight for Khan. A humiliating defeat at the hands of the little K man and Khan's marketabilty goes down the toilet. He will pick smaller, washed up or lower ranked fighters at least for the next 12 months.
So much for Khan-Maidana.
God please no i already had to have one of my favorites lose to Amir Khan, please not JMM aswell. JMM isn't even a natural Lightweight, what is it with boxing today. Pick on someone in your own weightclass.
Marquez has more of a chance of ko'ing Khan. He only has to get hit by somebody with average power as he proved against Willie Limond for him to be on queer street. This fascination with wanting to see him in with a very limited banger doesn't make any sense, seen as though Marquez should land quite frequently with good power.
Marquez is a solid opponent for Mayweather at 147 but he isn't good enough for Khan at 140? How highly must you all be rating Khan. ;)
Marquez was hardly a solid opponent for PBF. I doubt anybody on here thinks that but I totally see your point. Marquez is P4P afterall and a class act. He will land plenty punches on Khan but maybe that's what GBP want. They can then assess Khan's chin against admitidly a smaller guy but no means a soft puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
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Originally Posted by ono
I don't think anyone thought Marquez was a solid opponent for Mayweather and it show'd he was way to small. As for not been good enough for Khan, sure he's a better p4p fighter but he's not the biggest lightweight and he's giving away 3 inch in hight and about 4 inch in reach against a light welter in Khan...
Since been sparked by Prescot, Khan has beaten a bum, a small Barrera by headbutt and didn't have the decency to give him a rematch, and 3 guys who have no punch power and now he's going after a guy much smaller than him again... wow what a great champion :rolleyes:
If this is a semi final and Khan fights the winner of Bradley v Alexander then this is good match making.
ha exactly like I said. I told you all 18 months ago that by the end of 2010 Khan would take on Marquez and would beat him and everyone laughed at me, saying Marquez would kill him.
I explained that by the time it came around you'd all change your tunes and say Marquez was too old, too small, it was a handpick job for Khan etc, and I think it was Missy who told to get fucked and stop smoking.
Anyway, as you were...:)
timing is everything (& he's still a cunt & so is his ginger cripple sidekick)
:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Of course Khan would want this fight, its just another legend on his P4P resume.
Of course he was a solid opponent. He'd just come off ko'ing two of the best lightweights. If you don't think that makes him a solid enough opponent for someone who had a 2 year lay off, then you have to admit it's a solid opponent for a fairly decent light-welterweight? Shirley?Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilQuote:
Originally Posted by ono
I don't think anyone thought Marquez was a solid opponent for Mayweather and it show'd he was way to small. As for not been good enough for Khan, sure he's a better p4p fighter but he's not the biggest lightweight and he's giving away 3 inch in hight and about 4 inch in reach against a light welter in Khan...
Since been sparked by Prescot, Khan has beaten a bum, a small Barrera by headbutt and didn't have the decency to give him a rematch, and 3 guys who have no punch power and now he's going after a guy much smaller than him again... wow what a great champion :rolleyes:
I've changed nothing. Marquez still kills himQuote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
yeah his 2 wins were great for a fighter moving up in weight to lightweight, that still didn't make him a solid opponent for a guy another 2 divisions up(PBF) or even at light welter...Quote:
Originally Posted by onoOf course he was a solid opponent. He'd just come off ko'ing two of the best lightweights. If you don't think that makes him a solid enough opponent for someone who had a 2 year lay off, then you have to admit it's a solid opponent for a fairly decent light-welterweight? Shirley?Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilQuote:
Originally Posted by ono
I don't think anyone thought Marquez was a solid opponent for Mayweather and it show'd he was way to small. As for not been good enough for Khan, sure he's a better p4p fighter but he's not the biggest lightweight and he's giving away 3 inch in hight and about 4 inch in reach against a light welter in Khan...
Since been sparked by Prescot, Khan has beaten a bum, a small Barrera by headbutt and didn't have the decency to give him a rematch, and 3 guys who have no punch power and now he's going after a guy much smaller than him again... wow what a great champion :rolleyes:
Personally I think he's no business fighting above lightweight, hopefully he proves me wrong and sparks Khan ;D
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Originally Posted by Philyeah his 2 wins were great for a fighter moving up in weight to lightweight, that still didn't make him a solid opponent for a guy another 2 divisions up(PBF) or even at light welter...Quote:
Originally Posted by onoOf course he was a solid opponent. He'd just come off ko'ing two of the best lightweights. If you don't think that makes him a solid enough opponent for someone who had a 2 year lay off, then you have to admit it's a solid opponent for a fairly decent light-welterweight? Shirley?Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilQuote:
Originally Posted by ono
I don't think anyone thought Marquez was a solid opponent for Mayweather and it show'd he was way to small. As for not been good enough for Khan, sure he's a better p4p fighter but he's not the biggest lightweight and he's giving away 3 inch in hight and about 4 inch in reach against a light welter in Khan...
Since been sparked by Prescot, Khan has beaten a bum, a small Barrera by headbutt and didn't have the decency to give him a rematch, and 3 guys who have no punch power and now he's going after a guy much smaller than him again... wow what a great champion :rolleyes:
Personally I think he's no business fighting above lightweight, hopefully he proves me wrong and sparks Khan ;D
How do you figure that? Didn't Manny move up, after arguably losing to Marquez, to the same welterweight weight class and then batter the fuck out of Miguel Cotto?
What you mean is that Mayweather beat Marquez easily therefore you can confidently state from your armchair that he obviously was no challenge.
Marquez was clearly far too small against Mayweather and Mayweather refused to even attempt to make weight. A total mismatch. Pac and Marquez are different fighters. Marquez is much older and been forcing himself to bulk up. Manny has done it in a way we have never seen before. Marquez went up in weight in a much more typical manner.
I want to see how Marquez looks against Diaz first and if he looks grand then bring on Khan. But Khan's team are a bunch of dicks. They look at the age, then the size and keep him away from threats. He hasn't really beaten anybody besides Malignaggi yet.
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Originally Posted by miles
Yes his resume is piss poor compared to the othe 23 year old prospects out there. He'll be 24 in just under a year and he's only beaten one Hall of Famer and 3 world champs.
Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors. In an age of global belt expansion it isn't that hard to do. And he did not beat Barrera.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Yes his resume is piss poor compared to the othe 23 year old prospects out there. He'll be 24 in just under a year and he's only beaten one Hall of Famer and 3 world champs.
Yeah i know what you mean mate, what with all those other 23 year old fighters with much better resumes.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Marquez is a great fight for Khan. Dangerous too. If he can stop Casamayor and Diaz, he sure as hell can stop Khan. I don't get the waffling. Well i do purely down to the fact i'm used to reading it, but it sure as hell doesn't make any sense.
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Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by Philyeah his 2 wins were great for a fighter moving up in weight to lightweight, that still didn't make him a solid opponent for a guy another 2 divisions up(PBF) or even at light welter...Quote:
Originally Posted by onoOf course he was a solid opponent. He'd just come off ko'ing two of the best lightweights. If you don't think that makes him a solid enough opponent for someone who had a 2 year lay off, then you have to admit it's a solid opponent for a fairly decent light-welterweight? Shirley?Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilQuote:
Originally Posted by ono
I don't think anyone thought Marquez was a solid opponent for Mayweather and it show'd he was way to small. As for not been good enough for Khan, sure he's a better p4p fighter but he's not the biggest lightweight and he's giving away 3 inch in hight and about 4 inch in reach against a light welter in Khan...
Since been sparked by Prescot, Khan has beaten a bum, a small Barrera by headbutt and didn't have the decency to give him a rematch, and 3 guys who have no punch power and now he's going after a guy much smaller than him again... wow what a great champion :rolleyes:
Personally I think he's no business fighting above lightweight, hopefully he proves me wrong and sparks Khan ;D
How do you figure that? Didn't Manny move up, after arguably losing to Marquez, to the same welterweight weight class and then batter the fuck out of Miguel Cotto?
What you mean is that Mayweather beat Marquez easily therefore you can confidently state from your armchair that he obviously was no challenge.
Yeah but Manny injected peds to move up while Marquez drank piss ;D
hahahaha yeah there is that, Marquez really lucked out with his choice of training team :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PhilQuote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by Philyeah his 2 wins were great for a fighter moving up in weight to lightweight, that still didn't make him a solid opponent for a guy another 2 divisions up(PBF) or even at light welter...Quote:
Originally Posted by onoOf course he was a solid opponent. He'd just come off ko'ing two of the best lightweights. If you don't think that makes him a solid enough opponent for someone who had a 2 year lay off, then you have to admit it's a solid opponent for a fairly decent light-welterweight? Shirley?Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilQuote:
Originally Posted by ono
I don't think anyone thought Marquez was a solid opponent for Mayweather and it show'd he was way to small. As for not been good enough for Khan, sure he's a better p4p fighter but he's not the biggest lightweight and he's giving away 3 inch in hight and about 4 inch in reach against a light welter in Khan...
Since been sparked by Prescot, Khan has beaten a bum, a small Barrera by headbutt and didn't have the decency to give him a rematch, and 3 guys who have no punch power and now he's going after a guy much smaller than him again... wow what a great champion :rolleyes:
Personally I think he's no business fighting above lightweight, hopefully he proves me wrong and sparks Khan ;D
How do you figure that? Didn't Manny move up, after arguably losing to Marquez, to the same welterweight weight class and then batter the fuck out of Miguel Cotto?
What you mean is that Mayweather beat Marquez easily therefore you can confidently state from your armchair that he obviously was no challenge.
Yeah but Manny injected peds to move up while Marquez drank piss ;D
Ya, but Marquez has been through so much in the last few years. And after him fighting Mayweather, then having to drop back down in (2) weights etc etc. War Casamayor, War Diaz, war Pacquiao. His body is just going to quit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Hell, I'm shocked everyone is writing off Juan Diaz. He has almost nothing to lose, he sounds more focused than ever, he's training hard, and dropping back down to a weight where he can impose his will.