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Floyd has until FRIDAY
Mayweather up against fight deadline By Dan Rafael
Bracing for the increasing likelihood that Floyd Mayweather Jr. will not fight Manny Pacquiao in November, Pacquiao's adviser has met with Top Rank promoter Bob Arum in Las Vegas to look over alternative plans.
“Mayweather has until the end of the week. He could wait until the last minute. If it's Friday and it's 11 p.m., and he says we have a deal, we have a deal. ” -- Bob Arum, Top Rank promoter
While awaiting Mayweather's decision -- Arum told ESPN.com that Friday is the deadline -- Michael Koncz and Arum on Monday discussed proposals for Pacquiao to fight former welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito or face Miguel Cotto in a rematch in the event Mayweather declines the Nov. 13 fight.
"We're ready to go on with the Mayweather fight," Arum said, "but we have to make contingency plans just in case and I don't really want to talk about that too much. But Mayweather has until the end of the week. He could wait until the last minute. If it's Friday and it's 11 p.m., and he says we have a deal, we have a deal."
Arum and Koncz said they were hopeful Mayweather would accept the deal, but that they had to be prepared in the event he doesn't. Arum has said for weeks that Mayweather's camp has a contract for the fight and that Pacquiao has accepted the terms, including provisions for drug testing (blood and urine) leading up to the bout.
When Pacquiao and Mayweather were negotiating during December and January for a fight in March, the talks fell apart when they could not come to an agreement on drug testing protocol.
Pacquiao then went on to easily outpoint Joshua Clottey to retain his welterweight title in March, while Mayweather dominated Shane Mosley in May.
"We're waiting on Floyd," Arum said. "He might not want to fight again this year. If he wants to say, 'See you next year,' there's always next year. But I don't think we can't wait much longer for him to make up his mind because if we do the fight we want to make it as big as we can make it, and that takes time. I think Floyd will give us the courtesy of a response one way or the other. What that response will be, I really don't know.
"That's the fight we want and that's the fight we're in for, but if we can't do that fight there are other opponents."
Koncz and Arum wouldn't go into specifics of the terms on the table for the fight with Mayweather but Koncz said "a 50-50 deal was proposed and there was no argument against it."
Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, recently said that if the bout does not happen, Cowboys Stadium would host a Nov. 13 bout between Pacquiao and an undetermined opponent.
Koncz said Pacquiao wants to fight Mayweather, which would match the universally regarded top two fighters in boxing and one many believe would set pay-per-view and revenue records, but is prepared to move on.
"We don't know what Mayweather is going to do. Last week, I had dinner with Cotto in Puerto Rico to see where he stands and he's willing and able to do a rematch with Manny," Koncz said. "Bob and I have spoken about both fights, Cotto and Margarito. Manny asked me to get proposals from Bob on both fights, so that's what I am doing.
"We haven't heard back from Floyd yet and if we don't in the next few days, we will enter into a deal with one of the other fighters. Bob and I have spoken about both Cotto and Margarito. We will have a done deal and a signed contract for a fight by the end of this month, whoever it's against -- Mayweather, Cotto or Margarito."
Pacquiao's victory against Cotto netted him a title in a record seventh weight division. If he fights either Cotto or Margarito, Arum said Pacquiao will move up to the 154-pound junior middleweight division and fight for a belt in a record-extending eighth weight class. Pacquiao has already won titles at 112, 122, 126, 130, 135, 140 and 147 pounds.
If Pacquiao were to fight Cotto, Arum said he would challenge for Cotto's WBA belt. After the loss to Pacquiao, Cotto bounced back by moving up in weight and stopping Yuri Foreman on June 5 to win a junior middleweight belt.
If Pacquiao were to fight Margarito, Arum said they would meet for the vacant WBC version of the title, which Sergio Martinez relinquished after he won the middleweight championship in April.
A potential fight with Margarito, however, is complicated by the fact that he is not licensed in the United States because of the 2009 scandal in which he attempted to wear loaded hand wraps for his eventual knockout loss to Mosley. Nevada regulators tabled Margarito's application for a license last week and said it would not vote on it until Margarito first went before the California commission that revoked his license after last year's incident.
Arum and Koncz both said that if the Margarito fight comes to fruition and he is still unlicensed in the United States, they would consider an international location.
"It would be nice to have the fight in Las Vegas, but we can fight anywhere," Koncz said.
Pacquiao's 12th-round knockout win against Cotto drew 1.25 million pay-per-view buys and generated $70 million in domestic television revenue. However a rematch, or one with Margarito, would probably be more of a hard sell compared to one with Mayweather. The hand-wrap scandal has tarnished Margarito's reputation. Pacquiao's fight with Cotto did big business but it had a definitive conclusion and a rematch is not a fight that fans are demanding.
Manny Pacquiao preparing for possibility that Floyd Mayweather Jr. won't fight him - ESPN
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So I think it is pretty clear now, that it is Mayweather's side that is causing the delay.
Everything is agreed to: just sign it.
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Oh geezussss. I wish they'd just report when the fight is on, or when they know for sure the fight is off. All this garbage in between is tiresome.
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The fight must be close the way Arum is speaking about Mayweather. It's the most respectful he's been towards him in a long time
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So I think it is pretty clear now, that it is Mayweather's side that is causing the delay.
Everything is agreed to: just sign it.
We doing know if everything has actually been agreed to. I think Floyd will sign, but he will wait until the last possible minute before they make it happen, same thing happened with Hatton and Mosley. I can't remember if he did that with OScar, but I don't think he did.
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Has Arum agreed to make Manny do random blood tests up to the fight?
If not, hes just talking shite again:rolleyes:
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OMG! I've been away for three weeks and this record is still playing?!
Someone change the tune! :o
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My thought exactly
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Lance Uppercut
So I think it is pretty clear now, that it is Mayweather's side that is causing the delay.
Everything is agreed to: just sign it.
We doing know if everything has actually been agreed to. I think Floyd will sign, but he will wait until the last possible minute before they make it happen, same thing happened with Hatton and Mosley. I can't remember if he did that with OScar, but I don't think he did.
No he did not do that with DLH in fact the DLH bout is the last time he acted the least as an asshole...He limited his actions to sombreros he and the whole camp were not even smart enough to put on the right way :rolleyes:....
DLH was the grand prize then...The whole reason Floyd ever became a PPV draw
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i dont see y mayweather makes the drug testing thing up--now all of a sudden he's requesting new rules ..... if he's not satisfied with pro boxing procedures, then he's not a pro boxer. he cant make the rules. if Pac does everything according to boxing rules and mayweather isnt satisfied, he's an arsch-hole plain and simple (as if we didnt know that already). HE is the 1 ducking the fight. y shoulsd Pac undergo additional crap to cater to mayweather's "rules"?
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I don't think he signs if there is still reason to think Roger could be in or going to prison in the middle of preparations or for, in or around the night of the fight. Its a winning formula that you don't mess with, like Pacquiao and Roach.
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Has Pac and his team agreed to random blood and urine tests or is Bob Arum just trying to make Floyd look like the bad guy?
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I don't think he signs if there is still reason to think Roger could be in or going to prison in the middle of preparations or for, in or around the night of the fight. Its a winning formula that you don't mess with, like Pacquiao and Roach.
Difference is Mayweather's family is a bunch of degenerate toits.
Roach is an upstanding citizen.
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plese sign floyd for the love of god.
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I honestly have not had less interest in a "big" fight in quite some time with all of the pissing contests going on between them.All party involved need to put aside the god-think and realize that boxing does not revolve around them,nor do the fans owe em shite.F'n insult really.
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floyd is a giant vagina if he doesn't make this fight.
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Has Pac and his team agreed to random blood and urine tests or is Bob Arum just trying to make Floyd look like the bad guy?
Yes, Pac has already agreed to that issue http://www.secondsout.com/news/main-...thers-demands-
" Bob Arum told Dan Rafael of ESPN that Pacquiao accepted the terms of the random drug testing, blood and urine, leading up to the fight. " http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/07/...-to-the-fight/
Someone has to be the bad guy. And Floyd as always, plays the great role. He doesn't need someone like Arum to make that obvious.
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I hope these negotiations drag on for another 4 or 5 years it's sooooo interesting. All the new points of view on the topic are totally worthwhile.
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I hope these negotiations drag on for another 4 or 5 years it's sooooo interesting. All the new points of view on the topic are totally worthwhile.
More than likely will. If floyd doesn't respond on friday, this won't be the end of it.
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I hope these negotiations drag on for another 4 or 5 years it's sooooo interesting. All the new points of view on the topic are totally worthwhile.
I hope Floyd isn't around the sport thaT LONG...Her has gone from boaring, to villan, to somewhat of a showman to just plain annoying...This does not build up interest it actually helps lose it...He goes more over the top everytime when it comes to negotiations...
I swear he thinks guys should fight him for free...He is one of the most arrogant fighters since a young Ali.....Yet does not have the appeal...
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Oh geez, Top Rank has even put a countdown clock at the top of their website showing how long Floyd has to sign the contract.
Top Rank Boxing
Honestly, I don't care if we get this fight or not anymore. All the bullshit has turned me off.
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You guys are so naive why the hell do you not think he has signed and has no intention of signing, it's so obvious he is waiting for the winner of Morales and Limond, and rumours have it he hopes for the upset so he can live his dream of fighting a world class fighter in front of a uk crowd. ;D
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Floyd will laugh at this so called ultimatum.....the silly clock will count down, and this fight will still happen. Too much money for the fighters, buisness's, and everyone else involved for it not to.....the sad thing about all this stalling and playing around is that it's only affecting us the hard core fans. Almost every caual fan i know and work with could give a rats ass about all these games and really know nothing about them anyway they just want to see the fight. And if they don't oh well, football season will still be on....
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Floyd will laugh at this so called ultimatum.....the silly clock will count down, and this fight will still happen. Too much money for the fighters, buisness's, and everyone else involved for it not to.....the sad thing about all this stalling and playing around is that it's only affecting us the hard core fans. Almost every caual fan i know and work with could give a rats ass about all these games and really know nothing about them anyway they just want to see the fight. And if they don't oh well, football season will still be on....
Im sure when the fight happens he'll delay his entrance for half an hour
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Floyd will laugh at this so called ultimatum.....the silly clock will count down, and this fight will still happen. Too much money for the fighters, buisness's, and everyone else involved for it not to.....the sad thing about all this stalling and playing around is that it's only affecting us the hard core fans. Almost every caual fan i know and work with could give a rats ass about all these games and really know nothing about them anyway they just want to see the fight. And if they don't oh well, football season will still be on....
Agreed, if Floyd said on next Thursday that he's good to go, Uncle Rog put in a plea or something, then Arum wouldn't care.
This is dumb, and yea the clock will tick away and the fight may or may not happen, but tomorrow doesn't mean the fight is dead if it doesn't happen. Oh well, this shit is kind of gay now.
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the pinoy cheat should get over it fight hatton or david diaz for a tune up.or if he wants a real shot at a real fighter fight ANGULO at 154 PHUCK COTTOS TITLE
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Hhhhmmmph if that is how it is and Pac is willing to go through random blood tests like Mosley did, then I am dissapointed with Floyd. I am hoping this will all pass and they will meet in the ring. Fighting ODLH was not a short process either. That has been the biggest fight ever. Floyd vs Pac seems to be even bigger, so I can imagine the drama would be longer...?