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Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
After expecting atleast 6 good rounds from these two apparent boxers all that watched was let down after only 29sec in the first round. The jab that floored briggs was little more than a graze of the forehead and he failed to rise before the 10 count. The fight is now under investigation as the fight appeared to be fixed.
Green has come out and refused to pay briggs for the sham.
All this after the fight had to be moved two weeks ago to perth from sydney after N.S.W refused to register Briggs for the fight. Altho the fight was worse than terrible i hope Briggs has no brain damage if his retirement rumours were true.
Briggs dogged it: Green
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Re: Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
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Aussie_Egg
After expecting atleast 6 good rounds from these two apparent boxers all that watched was let down after only 29sec in the first round. The jab that floored briggs was little more than a graze of the forehead and he failed to rise before the 10 count. The fight is now under investigation as the fight appeared to be fixed.
Green has come out and refused to pay briggs for the sham.
All this after the fight had to be moved two weeks ago to perth from sydney after N.S.W refused to register Briggs for the fight. Altho the fight was worse than terrible i hope Briggs has no brain damage if his retirement rumours were true.
Briggs dogged it: Green
Im glad they moved it to perth coz otherwise I would of been watching it live in Sydney and I would of been majorly pissed off. I have no fuckin idea what happened to Briggs...that punch barely hit his forehead. Having been a fan of Briggs for quite a few yrs I would like to think he didnt throw the fight and that it was his medical problems that caused last night (even then its still bad). Just was kinda shocked how it went down, disgusting display for boxing if Briggs did throw it.
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Re: Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
Just for your info, Paul Briggs retired because of a serious nerve disorder, he tried to make a comeback last year and training was going well but his first sparring session saw him collapse and have a panic attack in the ring the first time he was hit. I worried that when this fight was made that Paul would not have fully recovered, he is obviously broke and thought he might be able to blag it, I don't think there was any fix and I think Paul had never recovered and should never have been in the ring, sometimes the temptation for money can be too strong.
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My question to Danny Green is why fight Paul Briggs at all? He must have known about Paul Briggs medical condition, the fight was shifted across the country because someone in NSW knew he wasn't fit to fight. Briggs had not fought for over 3 years FFS, what was Green thinking?
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Re: Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
Meh, the exact reason why I went and played laser tag instead of watching this fight. Friends are kicking themselves now that they missed out on a good night for 29 seconds of shit.
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Re: Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
Under card was good.
Pitt looked sharp and kickett is looking good.
I should have left before mainevent not that it went very long.
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Re: Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
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jmbtandy
Just for your info, Paul Briggs retired because of a serious nerve disorder, he tried to make a comeback last year and training was going well but his first sparring session saw him collapse and have a panic attack in the ring the first time he was hit. I worried that when this fight was made that Paul would not have fully recovered, he is obviously broke and thought he might be able to blag it, I don't think there was any fix and I think Paul had never recovered and should never have been in the ring, sometimes the temptation for money can be too strong.
Nerve disorder...are we talking mental or physical? Coz he passed all medicals. I have never heard that story and im surprised if it is such common knowledge why it hasnt turned up in the press in the build up to the fight or after it.
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Re: Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
I think Pauls best days are behind him...
I believe the fights with Adamek took the best of him...
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CutMeMick
I think Pauls best days are behind him...
I believe the fights with Adamek took the best of him...
Yyep, he would know people have seen him fight and wouldnt swallow that and is obviously pretty bad:p He shouldnt have been fighting in the first place and after getting refused by one place, whoever let him fight should be sacked!
Green sounded like a priick, grabbing the mike and talking like an asshole after.
I watched a bit more of the video on that link and Green is now calling out Mundine!! A light middle weight that already beat him easy!!
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Re: Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
whatever disorder he was coming from there is no way in hell something which is no more than a graze that barely hits knocks you out.
Another tarnished moment for this sport, absoloutely horrible to watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EdbKsVIAk4
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Re: Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
Watching that video, it's just something hugely strange...
The only boxer in the universe I can imagine going down from that is Paullie Mallinaggi because it totally missed his face and messed up his hair...
Honestly I would not be concerned with that being evidence the fight was fixed.. Even the sh!ttest moron actor in the world would know to pull off a fixed win, you need to at least take ONE punch to the face...
There is really no explanation for it...
Although I think it was Green I heard on the radio today who was saying now that he's watched it back on video, he can see that there WAS contact and that Briggs was obviously hurt by it....
Obviously post sh!tty-39-second-sham-of-a-fight politics, because he would have known on the night how hard it connected.. He doesn't need a video to tell him how hard he connected.... And sure as sh!t that video doesn't go a millimeter to convince anyone that how he went down was a result of any type of damage from the punch....
Strange strange strange.... I don't claim to be tough, but i'd bet my life that punch wouldn't have put me down and out..
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Dizaster
Watching that video, it's just something hugely strange...
The only boxer in the universe I can imagine going down from that is Paullie Mallinaggi because it totally missed his face and messed up his hair...
Honestly I would not be concerned with that being evidence the fight was fixed.. Even the sh!ttest moron actor in the world would know to pull off a fixed win, you need to at least take ONE punch to the face...
There is really no explanation for it...
Although I think it was Green I heard on the radio today who was saying now that he's watched it back on video, he can see that there WAS contact and that Briggs was obviously hurt by it....
Obviously post sh!tty-39-second-sham-of-a-fight politics, because he would have known on the night how hard it connected.. He doesn't need a video to tell him how hard he connected.... And sure as sh!t that video doesn't go a millimeter to convince anyone that how he went down was a result of any type of damage from the punch....
Strange strange strange.... I don't claim to be tough, but i'd bet my life that punch wouldn't have put me down and out..
mate you would of barely of known that punch would of even made contact with your head
a bit like someone ruffling your hair. This has calamity and match fixing written all over it
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HattonTheHammer
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Originally Posted by
Dizaster
Watching that video, it's just something hugely strange...
The only boxer in the universe I can imagine going down from that is Paullie Mallinaggi because it totally missed his face and messed up his hair...
Honestly I would not be concerned with that being evidence the fight was fixed.. Even the sh!ttest moron actor in the world would know to pull off a fixed win, you need to at least take ONE punch to the face...
There is really no explanation for it...
Although I think it was Green I heard on the radio today who was saying now that he's watched it back on video, he can see that there WAS contact and that Briggs was obviously hurt by it....
Obviously post sh!tty-39-second-sham-of-a-fight politics, because he would have known on the night how hard it connected.. He doesn't need a video to tell him how hard he connected.... And sure as sh!t that video doesn't go a millimeter to convince anyone that how he went down was a result of any type of damage from the punch....
Strange strange strange.... I don't claim to be tough, but i'd bet my life that punch wouldn't have put me down and out..
mate you would of barely of known that punch would of even made contact with your head
a bit like someone ruffling your hair. This has calamity and match fixing written all over it
Spoken like a man with countless years of boxing experience :rolleyes:;D:-X
I don't think he threw the fight, I think he would of let himself get stopped in a more believable way if that was the case, I think it's clear that Briggs is in no fit state to box and that should have been enforced when NSW refused to give him a licence. Danny Green should be ashamed of himself for this shit.
I think jmbtandy's post says a lot, and for those of you who don't know he is John Tandy, trainer of Yusaf Mack, Carson Jones & Ashley Theophane, so he will know a lot more than the likes of us as he is 'in the buis' as TM was fond of saying.
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I first thought "This HAS to be fixed" but then I thought:
1. The key to a proper fix is making it look real
2. Why did Green want to fight Briggs so badly when Briggs had been happily retired?
3. Why wouldn't you expect an active boxer to destroy a retired boxer when if these two were in the same ring in their primes you'd still expect Green to KO or stop Briggs?
It doesn't add up
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Re: Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
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CutMeMick
I think Pauls best days are behind him...
I believe the fights with Adamek took the best of him...
haha the greatest statement of the obvious I've ever heard ;D
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How does the fight get made? I cant think Briggs passed a medical exam, watching that. If Green really was his friend outside the ring, how did he not know about this? Shame on the matchmaker and commission. For you bilbo, "Another black eye for boxing" :fight: I know you love that saying.
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Re: Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
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El Kabong
I first thought "This HAS to be fixed" but then I thought:
1. The key to a proper fix is making it look real
2. Why did Green want to fight Briggs so badly when Briggs had been happily retired?
3. Why wouldn't you expect an active boxer to destroy a retired boxer when if these two were in the same ring in their primes you'd still expect Green to KO or stop Briggs?
It doesn't add up
Maybe they've gone for a reverse headfuck, by making it so unbelievable they actually manage to pull off the fix. We're like "If that was a fix, surely they'd make it more believable" and Green is like :cool: haha motherfuckers.
Or maybe there is something wrong with Briggs. If there is, i hope he's ok.
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I've decided I don't like Danny Green. You can put him next to Billy Dib (the other Aussie boxer I hate).
I heard that Green called out Shane Cameron...I hope somebody knocks his ass out soon.
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No Contest
How does the fight get made? I cant think Briggs passed a medical exam, watching that. If Green really was his friend outside the ring, how did he not know about this? Shame on the matchmaker and commission. For you bilbo, "Another black eye for boxing" :fight: I know you love that saying.
Actually I can't ever recall using that sentence? I usually put things more eloquently like 'this was a fucking fix man', or 'The Ring are a bunch of fucking cunts'.....
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jmbtandy
Just for your info, Paul Briggs retired because of a serious nerve disorder, he tried to make a comeback last year and training was going well but his first sparring session saw him collapse and have a panic attack in the ring the first time he was hit. I worried that when this fight was made that Paul would not have fully recovered, he is obviously broke and thought he might be able to blag it, I don't think there was any fix and I think Paul had never recovered and should never have been in the ring, sometimes the temptation for money can be too strong.
Nerve disorder...are we talking mental or physical? Coz he passed all medicals. I have never heard that story and im surprised if it is such common knowledge why it hasnt turned up in the press in the build up to the fight or after it.
It's widely known and recognized by everyone. Briggs openly talked about it and his retirement was not contested when he announced it years ago. I for one thought Briggs would make a good comeback. He's more cagey than he is elusive, though. I just don't know how Adamek has made it this far thinking about those two fights they had.
Green has "true" Glancing power. I'm pretty sure at this rate he is going to set a record for the most 1round stoppages that leave you scratching your head.
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Closest thing to wwe i've seen in a long time. Green was mad, but probably just because after practicing that crap over and over before time, briggs's retarded ass still screwed it up.
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Snakey
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jmbtandy
Just for your info, Paul Briggs retired because of a serious nerve disorder, he tried to make a comeback last year and training was going well but his first sparring session saw him collapse and have a panic attack in the ring the first time he was hit. I worried that when this fight was made that Paul would not have fully recovered, he is obviously broke and thought he might be able to blag it, I don't think there was any fix and I think Paul had never recovered and should never have been in the ring, sometimes the temptation for money can be too strong.
Nerve disorder...are we talking mental or physical? Coz he passed all medicals. I have never heard that story and im surprised if it is such common knowledge why it hasnt turned up in the press in the build up to the fight or after it.
Paul Briggs back in action | The Daily Telegraph
WORLD-ranked Australian boxer Paul Briggs is eyeing a world title fight next year after overcoming a traumatic health scare which he thought had ended his career.
Briggs, who lost two memorable WBC light heavyweight title fights to Poland's Tomasz Adamek on majority points decision, yesterday resumed boxing sessions for the first time in two months.
The Sydney-based 32-year-old, who hasn't fought since February, today revealed the ordeal he went through when experiencing worrying symptoms throughout this year.
Briggs said all but one of the symptoms resembled a brain tumor and the emotional turmoil while trying to diagnose his problem had also imposed a lot of stress on his family....
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JonnyFolds
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Snakey
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jmbtandy
Just for your info, Paul Briggs retired because of a serious nerve disorder, he tried to make a comeback last year and training was going well but his first sparring session saw him collapse and have a panic attack in the ring the first time he was hit. I worried that when this fight was made that Paul would not have fully recovered, he is obviously broke and thought he might be able to blag it, I don't think there was any fix and I think Paul had never recovered and should never have been in the ring, sometimes the temptation for money can be too strong.
Nerve disorder...are we talking mental or physical? Coz he passed all medicals. I have never heard that story and im surprised if it is such common knowledge why it hasnt turned up in the press in the build up to the fight or after it.
It's widely known and recognized by everyone. Briggs openly talked about it and his retirement was not contested when he announced it years ago. I for one thought Briggs would make a good comeback. He's more cagey than he is elusive, though. I just don't know how Adamek has made it this far thinking about those two fights they had.
Green has "true" Glancing power. I'm pretty sure at this rate he is going to set a record for the most 1round stoppages that leave you scratching your head.
Yeah I had heard that he had this medical issue but thought it must of been just rumour when no medicals found it. Obviously its not as apparently there is some things coming out now that Briggs was showing signs of not being well in training.
This is just a fucking shame, I have so much respect for briggs. Everything he has done in his life, everything he has over come to get where he is today. FUCK YOU DANNY GREEN!!!! I was hoping for a completely fit Paul Briggs to walk in there and destroy him but that was me being naive. 4 yrs ago Briggs would of taken Danny out in one round, he challenged Green back then but Green didnt have the balls.
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Rumours are hitting some aussie boxing forums...apparently info is being leaked from the Briggs camp and they are saying that the signs were there in training. Apparently Briggs had complained of blurred vision :o and was showing extremely low resistance to punches....if this is true thats fucked up!!! I hate Danny Green for dangling 200 000 infront of Paul, he is an absolute cunt!!!
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Re: Green v Briggs. Expected fireworks didn't get a spark
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Mar
Closest thing to wwe i've seen in a long time. Green was mad, but probably just because after practicing that crap over and over before time, briggs's retarded ass still screwed it up.
Yep, in rehearsal it went, Paul slips the first jab, the second grazes the top of his head, then Green throws a big left hook that sends Briggs to the canvas.... Unfortunately even with 1000 rehearsals, he forgot about the left hook and went down from the head graze...
I'd be pissed if someone screwed that up as well!
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Snakey
Rumours are hitting some aussie boxing forums...apparently info is being leaked from the Briggs camp and they are saying that the signs were there in training. Apparently Briggs had complained of blurred vision :o and was showing extremely low resistance to punches....if this is true thats fucked up!!! I hate Danny Green for dangling 200 000 infront of Paul, he is an absolute cunt!!!
Not only that but AFTER the fight Green got on the mic saying that his son has bigger balls then Briggs and he isn't getting paid a cent and he was gonna fight him in the locker room for a fight the fans enjoyed.
If thats true and Green already knew of Briggs condition AND they were supposed to be friends, it just gives more of a reason to have disdain for Green.
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Majesty
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Snakey
Rumours are hitting some aussie boxing forums...apparently info is being leaked from the Briggs camp and they are saying that the signs were there in training. Apparently Briggs had complained of blurred vision :o and was showing extremely low resistance to punches....if this is true thats fucked up!!! I hate Danny Green for dangling 200 000 infront of Paul, he is an absolute cunt!!!
Not only that but AFTER the fight Green got on the mic saying that his son has bigger balls then Briggs and he isn't getting paid a cent and he was gonna fight him in the locker room for a fight the fans enjoyed.
If thats true and Green already knew of Briggs condition AND they were supposed to be friends, it just gives more of a reason to have disdain for Green.
I've already posted a few posts up what's wrong with Briggs. There's a link with the full story. He has a nervous system and adrenal system problem that hasn't been treated. He collapsed in sparring and he's also collapsed numerous times outside of the gym. He shouldn't have been anywhere near the ring. The condition gives him major balance problems. It's a terrible thing to cope with, and Green is a grade A twat for his post fight comments.
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ono
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Majesty
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Snakey
Rumours are hitting some aussie boxing forums...apparently info is being leaked from the Briggs camp and they are saying that the signs were there in training. Apparently Briggs had complained of blurred vision :o and was showing extremely low resistance to punches....if this is true thats fucked up!!! I hate Danny Green for dangling 200 000 infront of Paul, he is an absolute cunt!!!
Not only that but AFTER the fight Green got on the mic saying that his son has bigger balls then Briggs and he isn't getting paid a cent and he was gonna fight him in the locker room for a fight the fans enjoyed.
If thats true and Green already knew of Briggs condition AND they were supposed to be friends, it just gives more of a reason to have disdain for Green.
I've already posted a few posts up what's wrong with Briggs. There's a link with the full story. He has a nervous system and adrenal system problem that hasn't been treated. He collapsed in sparring and he's also collapsed numerous times outside of the gym. He shouldn't have been anywhere near the ring. The condition gives him major balance problems. It's a terrible thing to cope with, and Green is a grade A twat for his post fight comments.
Yeah, if that bit of connection to the top of his head caused him so much discomfort, you would HAVE to assume that the signs were there in sparring, and someone should not have let him in the ring... Sure in the doctors room, he was given a clean bill of health. But did the doctor actually throw a jab at him or anything? Clearly he was not ready to have any physical pressure to be put onto his body, and just that one punch took everything out of him to the point he couldn't stand...
Green would have HAD to know that Briggs was not in top shape, and he played a part in choosing an opponent which would be an easy fight for him... So it does make him quite twattish to flip out at him after the fight when clearly he made the decision to get in with him knowing he was not 100% up for it...
Real shame.. Boxing in Australia only gets that many eyes on it 4 or 5 times a year... And the 2 biggest times with Green vs Briggs, and Green vs Jones have ended in very disappointing circumstances...... It's a really tough sell for getting kids here into the sport...
I think most of our local hero's into the future will be imported from other countries and adopted as our own..
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This is doing the circuit on the internet:
"SO SEVERE were Paul Briggs's neurological problems in the weeks leading up to his fight against Danny Green that he was forgetting at which gymnasium he was training and mistaking strangers' cars for his own. His conditioning was so poor that he took one body shot in sparring and vomited.
Briggs's woeful 29-second performance on Wednesday night was not of a man taking a dive, but one who was so desperate for his $200,000 purse he was willing to risk his life in the ring. Briggs, his people, and much of boxing's circle knew the reality of the situation. This was going to be a farce."
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WelshDevilRob
This is doing the circuit on the internet:
"SO SEVERE were Paul Briggs's neurological problems in the weeks leading up to his fight against Danny Green that he was forgetting at which gymnasium he was training and mistaking strangers' cars for his own. His conditioning was so poor that he took one body shot in sparring and vomited.
Briggs's woeful 29-second performance on Wednesday night was not of a man taking a dive, but one who was so desperate for his $200,000 purse he was willing to risk his life in the ring. Briggs, his people, and much of boxing's circle knew the reality of the situation. This was going to be a farce."
Sad, but true. Briggs was overweight and in poor condition. It is a shame that Paul Briggs will now be remembered for this fight and not his two epic encounters with Thomas Adamek, he lost two close decisions that if they had of gone his way, very few would have argued. What was Green thinking in fighting a guy with known medical issues, inactive for over 3 years and in no shape to compete at the highest level? Danny Green and his people need to have a good look at themselves and fight a genuine top 10 fighter next up. Calling out Mundine who is old, washed up and fighting at 154lb is no way to regain lost credibility.
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Danny Green v Paul Briggs
Green says he doesn't think he dived after all. Claims it was a brain stem injury. New slow-mo footage, he believes, proves this.
Still not convinced tbh, especially seeing how there was a flurry of 1st round bets placed before the fight.