On the BBC saying that they are talking to 4 or 5 fighters about the next fight, which will be in the next 4 months.
He also said one of them is definitely Audley, but there are a few hurdles to get over before any deal is done.
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On the BBC saying that they are talking to 4 or 5 fighters about the next fight, which will be in the next 4 months.
He also said one of them is definitely Audley, but there are a few hurdles to get over before any deal is done.
It WILL be Harrison. The coward.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTMatty
Well, well, well....so its Audley and 4 or 5 names to distract everyone with until the Audley fight is signed. How do the Chicken Little fans feel about this?
That's what I wanted to say but I wasn't sure how to word it. ;D This 'four or five' names is just a smokescreen whilst the deal with Harrison gets signed, sealed and delivered. It's an embarrassment.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
The fight probably won't happen until January or February also.
When will people start to believe me about this fraud? What else does the guy have to do to make what I say about him more credible?
Who could those other names be? I think Haye needs to be more active anyway not fighting for another 4 months? This could be his undoing maybe not next fight but eventually.
I'm sure it's been discussed many times. Main reasons why Haye will fight harrison is that it is seen as an easy fight and will do HUGE business in the UK. The general public will still be fooled by Harriosn as a genuine threat at world level and still think 'he won an olympic gold medal 10 years ago he must be 1 of the most devastating fighters in the world' lol
Look at how well Frank warren did promoting mitchell vs katsidis. if the harrison fight is promoted half as well it will be gigantic as haye and audley are much bigger names over here.
I used to come on this site probably 6 years ago or so and Audley was getting slated back then (by me too no doubt) and i can't believe that he has never learned from his mistakes. - you are a professional boxer you are going to have to take the odd punch, don't look so scared. Don't walk about with such an undeserved sense of achievement in the pro ranks.
Audley has excellent skills and shows a glimpse of them every now and then and he is a big bloke he just doesn't like taking a shot and looks like a rabbit caught in headlights everytime a punch is thrown at him.
Remember in Rocky 3 when Mickey tells rocky that ' thing that could happen to any fighter you became civilised'?
1 of the worst things that happened to Audley was getting that £1m dollar contract off bbc when turned pro the hunger and desire was taken away from him. He was already made for life. I know if i was a pro boxer with £1m in my bank account i woud struggle to go out running in the snow early in the moring when i could stay in my nice warm bed lol
David Haye should be able to blast Harrison out in 3-4 rounds. As long as the fight lasts Audley will always have a chance of catching haye and knocking him out especially if haye fights recklessley as he can be known to do. I'd hate to see audley win as he would think he's the greatest fighter ever to come out the uk when truth is Naz would probably have beaten him =0). Audley would expect to be forgiven for his career so far.
I think the 4 or 5 names will be the same ones we've heard mentioned before: James Toney, Hasim Rahman, David Tua, Nicolay Valuev, and maybe Chagaev, Povetkin, or Solis...but those talks won't be serious at all, merely a play where the Diva's manager can say "We tried to make a big fight happen but everyone was scared"
....Its a shame the guy even has a title
I am all for the Audley showdown before a Klitschko one - lets have a battle of Britain, long time since we had a high profile British scrap with two household names
However if Haye is going to take the best part of a year off afterwards then I am not so sure :-\
and as i have said before , am a big Haye fan but if Audley won it would be hilarious ;D
Tua was a name i was thinking of that wouldn't be a bad match a lot of champs face faded fighters who were a force to be reckoned with at 1 point.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Valuev because it's contracted from their first fight.
Please not Toney or Rahman. Any of the others would be acceptable.
I don't actually mind if this fight happens but i pray david haye wins so we have some continuation in the heavyweight division. If Audley wins gona mess everything up
No I think the funniest thing that could happen os if the Harrison fight falls through and all of a sudden he's left with some lower level (if possible) British fighter.
Here are some recent actual quotes from Adam Booth regarding the next opponent for November.
There have been talks with fellow Londoner Harrison, 38, who revived his career by winning the European title with a last-gasp KO over Reading’s Michael Sprott in April.
But Haye’s trainer-manager Adam Booth said: “David is still saying, ‘Why the hell should I be fighting Audley when he’s not ranked in the top ten?’
“I’m not saying Audley is not a possibility. Nothing has been done yet and we are not moving ahead.
“I’ve spoken to Eddie Hearn a couple of times and I’ve also had offers from Bernard Hopkins and Shannon Briggs.
"Tomasz Adamek, with all the tickets he would sell to Poles living in Britain, is another possibility.
“But nothing is going to be decided for four or five weeks.
“I’ve not heard from the *Klitschkos in weeks.
“There is talk Vitali will fight Shannon Briggs next, we will see.”
So we have a second hand denial of wanting a fight vs Harrison.....well gee that's almost as good as hearing it straight from the horse's mouth, not that I would believe anything that bastard said
Also isn't it common practice for the Diva to disparage opponents he may (or may not) fight in the future? Why would it be any different with Audley? He's talked the most shit about Audley recently, about how "he's not top ten", "he doesn't deserve a shot" etc and yet he's still talking about Audley and a possible fight with him...odd no? I think he's just trying to stir the Brits up so he can MAYBE sell out 30K seats
Makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Can't hold it against Haye for making the fight just for the money but makes it worse when he speaks about being an all time great and a british legend. Would be more acceptable if he fought more often and was using audley as marking time fight while waiting for a meaningful fight.
How much would he make fighting 1 or both Klitschko's?
There's plenty of time for a fight vs Audley after the real business is taken care of. The outcomes vs either Klitschko wouldn't diminish how big a fight vs Audley would do, it could only increase his value...unless he continues being a gutless coward and then eventually even the die hard fans will catch on to his act.
Come on Diva fight someone with a pulse!!!
I hate to sound hard on the guy but i agree. Haye and his mouth put himself into this postion. He could have taken easy tune up fights and worked his way into the division but i was him who made all the pictures, jumped out of wlad's b day cake, slapped the klitch's momma etc.....i still think he can give either of them a good run at it. But to continuously talk about a benz then show up at the club in a kia is really dissappointing. And audley is a damn kia.....Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
...Just imagine how much pull in the division the Diva will have if Audley troubles him a bit or even lasts the distance?
I'm doubtful the Klitschko fights ever get made, they are really having to search for guys that are willing to fight them now and that is hard to believe.
good points i agree actually. Also agree with your other post where you say what would it do if audley was to trouble david. i never really thought about it like that, it would seriously harm hayes rep if it was close on the cards. i think there is a slight chance haye could get sparked (mainly due to the fact that it's HW's and Haye sometimes blocks with his face) but i never considered harrison making it much of a boxing contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I have changed my mind, while i would still like to see the haye harrison fight for entertainment purposes, i think Haye should take the big meaningful fights first. He has the title he now has to prove he is worthy to keep hold of it.
He should be fighting Klitschko next not Peter.
Unless your following Haye's career more closely than I am then No he hasn't. Just more ramblings from the Klit lover that is you. How come you changed your name?;DQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
How much? Not as much as you think they are worth. But maybe you like 'Slaves'.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
It's a case of 50/50 allegedly. Dan Rafael ran it but there were no actual quotes of 50/50 from the Klitschko man Bernard Boente - Dan quoted him on everything else.
But say it is 50/50 - what is Klitschko bringing financially? Stadium sales potentially - it depends where the fight is. HBO, they are only interested in the Klits if they fight Haye or Adamek.
German TV ain't PPV its free to air while UK TV is PPV and Haye hit 800,000 beating on Ruiz.
Put all that together and a 50/50 split while sounding good actually means the Klits eat into the money brought by Haye.
Then we have Povetkin and once again the "Slave contracts" from the Klitschko's which mean - Fight a Klitschko and if you win you have to rematch and fight the brother for less money than they are getting. That ain't a fair deal and Haye, now he has a belt ain't gonna sign it.
We can say Haye is ducking but I'd rather see it on the evidence that he ain't gonna be their bitch.
Rob, Wlad packed a bigger stadium than the Diva ever has vs Eddie Chambers, fought a seemingly lack luster fight and STILL had that crowd giving him a standing ovation. The guy had MILLIONS of people (just in Germany by the way) watch his fight vs Chagaev on TV, and he had over 50K in attendance. So let's not act like the Diva brings all that much more to the table.
Haye is a joke and the longer he leaves it to announce his next fight the bigger prat he is starting to look.
I don't think it's fair to say he's a fraud. He's every right to milk being a champ and he's every right to take a few decent pay days. That way, when he gets Ko'd by Wlad or Vitali, he'll have something to fall back on other then his arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
ono, my thought process is this, if the Diva gets hurt, has trouble, struggles or is anything other than dazzling vs Harrison then he hurts how big a fight vs either Klitschko could be. He has said he'll retire soon and I would assume that Povetkin or Solis would mean more money than Audley Harrison.
As a boxing fan I want the big fights to happen, we pay for them to, these guys need to get on the ball and make these fights happen!
I disagree mate, i reckon a Haye - Klitschko fight will sell, even if Haye toils to a points win over Harrison. It's big money at the end of the day. I think we just need to be patient. Probably will be a job for next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Fighting Audley is a bit embarrassing. But then so is Wlad fighting Sam Peter. That is my take on it.
Wlad fans are in no position to critisize haye.
Wlad didn't b*tch out of 2 fights and Sam Peter is now the IBF mandatory...what's Audley again?
Ok true audley harrision hasn't become an alphabet madatory by getting easily destroyed by both klits not to mention rarely being in any kind of shape. true you've certainly got me there!
And true i'm not sure when wlad last was envolved in a fight where he sustained an injury in training and was going to lose a shed load of revenue when the TV company showing the fight went bust and closed down meaning he would forfeight the vast majority of money that he would earn from the fight. And I also don't know when last his opponant disregarded his status as a champion and wanted a cut of his home town PPV earnings. Again you've got me there.
And also I can't remember last when I was damning of a boxer/boxers due to their nationallity so you've got me there too.
wow 3 for 3. go you.
1. I don't rate the fighters the IBF did that.
2. The biggest problem I have with YOUR BOY is that he made up excuses instead of telling the truth when Setanta went bust. Since that time all the Diva has done is act like a scared little punk and he's talked himself into something he found out he doesn't want.
3. I never dissed anyone based on nationality...if Chicken Little was American you're damn sure I'd call his ass out for punking out of fights. And its not like I have any ties to Ukraine or anything either.
So why are you using that as somesort of one up over Audley then if you don't think being IBF mandatory don't mean jack shit? Contradiction?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Well that's not addressing the point I made. fuck it. Prove he wasn't injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I don't believe youQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
1. Being ranked by the IBF or any other organization is usually a merit based system.
2. The injury is erroneous as Chicken Little never intended to go through with the fight anyway...am I wrong in saying that? The problem with the Setanta bankruptcy is that Chicken Little never addressed it until it made him look like a victim.
3. If you don't believe it then that's your problem. If the was an American heavyweight like Chicken Little I most certainly would disparage him providing he acted in a similar manner. I talked crap about Cris Arreola's style, shape, and performance in the ring (and he's American) but he did take his beatings like a man...had he not done so I would have amped up my rhetoric.
seems like you're chasing your tail on the whole IBF thing son. My advice would be make up your mind which oppinion you want to have on it and then go with that.
There was a time where everyone wanted a rematch of Wlad-Peter and I figure if Sam Peter comes to fight in shape then this will be an exciting fight. As for the rankings, I guess when top ranked mandatory opponents refuse to fight Wlad then its up to the IBF to find a suitable replacement.
Lyle is just unhappy David Haye is British. He knows the USA will never produce a HW as great as him in the next 50 years.
Perhaps, but I find it odd that we'll put together better soccer teams than England will over the next 50 years though ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lefty
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