Do you believe any heavyweight from any era could have gotten up..

... from the right hand Rocky Marciano landed on Jersey Joe Walcott?

It remains my favorite one-punch destruction through the ages and my father and I debate it often.

I maintain that it would have ended anyone's night. My dad says that's probably true until you fast forward to the rise of the giant European heavyweights.

Walcott was lucky his head was still attached after that detonation. What say you?

Who could have risen up to fight on?



For any that haven't seen it, Rocky saunters over to Joe in a fight that the Rock is behind on, just walks over without a care in the world, like he's at the park, and does his little glove roll that he liked, and whoops whats this? Ka-Blam!! Holy moly. Jesus, I thought he killed him. A right hand like nothing you've ever seen. Annnnnd splat, Joe is down and out and completely fu**ed and probably has no recollection of it to this day.

Audley Harrison would've gotten up and laughed at him.

Seriously.

I think a prime David Tua, Ike IBeabuchi, Ray Mercer wouldn't even be hurt by that punch if it ever landed on them. Walcott was old and tired by that point in the fight despite him giving Marciano a boxing lesson.

Ali would have got up.

Frank Bruno wouldn't even have gone down - would have remained standing and get stopped on his feet whilst insisting he was ok

Interesting question.

I think you can certainly argue about whether or not he would have been able to land that punch on modern heavyweights, but I don't know if any of them would have been able to stand up to it; then again I don't know if any of them wouldn't have been able to shake if off either. I think you could probably argue that a massive guy like Vitali Klitscko might have been able to. He stood up to some big shots from Lennox Lewis, a guy who is significantly larger than Marciano, but who knows who hits harder really...

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

Ali would have got up.

Frank Bruno wouldn't even have gone down - would have remained standing and get stopped on his feet whilst insisting he was ok

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That had me rolling. Well played, sir.

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Originally Posted by koppas

Audley Harrison would've gotten up and laughed at him.

Seriously.

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Hahaha. He'd have had him just where he wanted him.

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

Ali would have got up.

Frank Bruno wouldn't even have gone down - would have remained standing and get stopped on his feet whilst insisting he was ok

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After several minutes....:o

Valuev

Id say


Muhammad Ali
Oliver McCall
and Prime Larry Holmes (Look how he get up after that sick right hand from Shavers)

i think Foreman, Holyfield, Ali, Tua, Vitali, and Tyson would have take it fine

Good question,had to be in the g.o.a.t class when it came to single shot enders...I do think many would take it.Hate to u-turn on question but it came after Walcott had been doing respectable damage and working for full 12 rounds...interesting to think of Marciano taking that from 'todays' hvys... but endurance aside it was a pure detonation shot.Clean & brutal!! Hey welcome to the forum btw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-v4OtvXRcQ

4:40 onwards.

Wayne McCullough would have taken that shot on the bridle. Fact.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Wayne McCullough would have taken that shot on the bridle. Fact.

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And Tommy Morrison as well. ;D

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Originally Posted by holmcall

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Wayne McCullough would have taken that shot on the bridle. Fact.

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And Tommy Morrison as well. ;D

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Lets not be silly now.

That shot would have knocked Tommy unconcious even if it semi-clipped him. A sledgehammer ain't budging Wayne. Fact.

Hey thanks for putting the video up there, I dont know how to do that yet.


The thread spawns a bunch of different questions in my mind that try to bridge the generations. The toughness and durability of the fighters back then. The pace and the brutality then vs now. I often think the old heavys were more durable, made of more grit, and prone to take more severe beatings than what you see today.

Our heavies today benefit from all the leaps we've made in training knowledge and equipment, diagnostics and therapy. Sometimes i wonder if, even if better built and pumped full of supplements, our modern fighters arent a bit... well, softer.

The Klitchkos are a fine example to me of the bigger, stronger, educated and more enhanced evolution of the heavyweight figher. But when I try to picture either Klitschko in there against a Liston, or a Foreman, or a Lyle, there's a certain degree of grit and fortitude that's hard for me to reconcile in the modern era. Guys like Rocky and Archie and Louis weren't clearing 18 million dollars from a PPV bonanza. They were feeding their families and tougher than nails.

Damn, now im rambling.

Lots of good posts, and there's a few you brought to light Im now on the fence about.

My dad will be thrilled.

Ray Mercer and Oliver McCall would have taken the blow.

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Originally Posted by miron_lang

Id say


Muhammad Ali
Oliver McCall
and Prime Larry Holmes (Look how he get up after that sick right hand from Shavers)

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have heard Holmes say on more than one occasion that if he hadn't hit the canvas so hard that night he wouldn't have got up. Said the jolt on hitting the canvas woke him up !

I just love Heavyweight threads.

Marciano was a hell of a puncher. This shot heard round the world would have decked anyone + 10 count. He hit him on the button with Walcott turning into the punch. If you set anyone's noggin in there it wouldn't make a difference.

As someone as already mentioned, for certain Larry Holmes in his prime. He possibly took the flushest single punch from possibly the hardest hitting Heavyweight of all time, and he got up in like 4 seconds.

Muhammad Ali also took an amazing lunging left hook from Joe Frazier, and was up straight away.

I think those two are really a given, but other notable ones are David Tua, George Chuvalo, Oscar Bonevena, Evander Holyfield, Oliver McCall, Ray Mercer, ETC.