Great Trainers that never faught??
Hey guys,
I was randomly wondering if there were trainers out there that dont have a substantial boxing career as fighters.. for example Emanuel Steward had a pretty extensive amateur career, Roach as well, plus pro.
But are there any successful boxing trainers that did not fight?
Cus D'amato?... Brother Naazim Richardson maybe?
I know having extensive fighting experience would be a great asset, but I always wondered if there were great trainers that simply studied the sport but never really competed.
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El Kabong
Angelo Dundee comes to mind
Yeah, the highest profile have to be Dundee and D,Amato.
Cus D'Amato was like a philosopher, he understood that getting a fighter to control and channel his nervous energy was key to the fighters success. There are loads of D'aAmato quotes out there.
"When two men step into the ring, one and only one deserves to win. When you step into the ring, you gotta know you deserve to win. You gotta know destiny owes you victory cos you trained harder than your opponent. You sparred harder. You ran farther"
"Dont worry about being scared going into a fight. Its when you aint scared that?s the time to worry. Fear is the friend of every good and reasonable athlete"
"Heroes and cowards feel exactly the same fear. Heroes just react to it differently"
"The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters"
"To see a man beaten not by a better opponent but by himself is a tragedy"
"People who are born round don't die square"
"Dont watch the glove, watch the chest. Wait for the glove to move, youre dead. When the chest flexes, you bob"
"One word describes Rocky Marciano. Tenacity. Only one hundred eighty seven pounds but to this day he remains the only undefeated heavyweight champion. How? Because he would not imagine he could lose. He would not even allow the concept of defeat to enter his mind"
"Joe Louis may have been quiet on the outside, but on the inside ? pure rage. He was a Negro in a white mans world and he hates it. Up and down the street, twenty four hours a day"
Heres a video of DAmato chatting with Ali and Dundee.
In recent years youd have to say Calzaghes old man, for a few years he had a successfull stable of fighters, all limited but he managed to get them to work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrWlH...layer_embedded
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wouldn't call him great but he is a very good trainer and brought Miguel Cotto to the world staged, Evangelista Cotto
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Eddie Boxed only Amatuer, but a good one.
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nacho beristain comes to mind.
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Brendan Boxed, wasnt Bad.
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Thanks for the responses guys... I figured there must have been a bunch out there. Just couldnt think of any that for sure did not.
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The Student
Hey guys,
I was randomly wondering if there were trainers out there that dont have a substantial boxing career as fighters.. for example Emanuel Steward had a pretty extensive amateur career, Roach as well, plus pro.
But are there any successful boxing trainers that did not fight?
Cus D'amato?... Brother Naazim Richardson maybe?
I know having extensive fighting experience would be a great asset, but I always wondered if there were great trainers that simply studied the sport but never really competed.
Check out this article that precisely addresses your question: - it has received almost 250 FB Likes so far so something has to be right. Google "Ageless Adonis: Boxing’s Greatest Trainers and Strategists Who Never Actually Fought!" - hope it helps.
- Coach Craig
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agelessadonis
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Originally Posted by
The Student
Hey guys,
I was randomly wondering if there were trainers out there that dont have a substantial boxing career as fighters.. for example Emanuel Steward had a pretty extensive amateur career, Roach as well, plus pro.
But are there any successful boxing trainers that did not fight?
Cus D'amato?... Brother Naazim Richardson maybe?
I know having extensive fighting experience would be a great asset, but I always wondered if there were great trainers that simply studied the sport but never really competed.
Check out this article that precisely addresses your question: - it has received almost 250 FB Likes so far so something has to be right. Google "Ageless Adonis: Boxing’s Greatest Trainers and Strategists Who Never Actually Fought!" - hope it helps.
- Coach Craig
Just had a quick read and looks like youve answered a question that wasnt asked. You said you were debating Bruce Lees prowess as a martial artist, not as a martial arts instructer.
As a martial artist, Bruce Lee was top notch. As a fighter he was totally unproven as he never took part in any tournaments or competative bouts to judge him as a fighter on.
He could teach martial arts but I doubt he could train any top MMA fighters.
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The irony!
Your name is "The Student", yet you spelled it faught.....
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ross
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agelessadonis
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Originally Posted by
The Student
Hey guys,
I was randomly wondering if there were trainers out there that dont have a substantial boxing career as fighters.. for example Emanuel Steward had a pretty extensive amateur career, Roach as well, plus pro.
But are there any successful boxing trainers that did not fight?
Cus D'amato?... Brother Naazim Richardson maybe?
I know having extensive fighting experience would be a great asset, but I always wondered if there were great trainers that simply studied the sport but never really competed.
Check out this article that precisely addresses your question: - it has received almost 250 FB Likes so far so something has to be right. Google "Ageless Adonis: Boxing’s Greatest Trainers and Strategists Who Never Actually Fought!" - hope it helps.
- Coach Craig
Just had a quick read and looks like youve answered a question that wasnt asked. You said you were debating Bruce Lees prowess as a martial artist, not as a martial arts instructer.
As a martial artist, Bruce Lee was top notch. As a fighter he was totally unproven as he never took part in any tournaments or competative bouts to judge him as a fighter on.
He could teach martial arts but I doubt he could train any top MMA fighters.
It goes into a bit more detail with regard to Lee being a great strategist - but also explains how men such Cus D, Ray Arcel, Gil Clancey as some of the greats who never fought yet were the top guys in the sport as well as details why having prior fight experience is not necessarily necessary in order for one to become a top trainer. As far as Lee is concerned, if you read further down in the comments you will see that Lee trained Norris, Mike Stone, and Joe Lewis - and during this time they never lost a tournament. Check it out again if you wish - add a comment if you like - I am a trainer and manager as well - so if you have any questions please dont hesitate to ask.
Regards,
Coach Craig
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He's not great but Enzo Calzaghe ... not sure but I dont think Angel Garcia boxed either.. he used to be a fake thug I heard..
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I agree you dont need to have fought to teach but back to the original debate you had. Lee was untested as a fighter. No one brings up dream fights of Cus Damato v Roberto Duran or Angelo Dundee v Thomas Hearns.
Everyone accepts Lee was a very good artist but no one can say how good a fighter he is. Same as those boxing trainers who havent boxed.
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I agree you dont need to have fought to teach but back to the original debate you had. Lee was untested as a fighter. No one brings up dream fights of Cus Damato v Roberto Duran or Angelo Dundee v Thomas Hearns.
Everyone accepts Lee was a very good artist but no one can say how good a fighter he is. Same as those boxing trainers who havent boxed.
Bruce Lee also loses points for a really bad haircut.
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This article might be of interest to you regarding Lee. Google Ageless Adonis - Boxing vs. MMA: Bruce Lee’s Opinion
All the best.
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Air Jordans were great trainers. And I don't believe they ever fought.
