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Ivan Calderon and Giovanni Segura are unifying their WBO/Lineal & WBA Titles here in Puerto Rico, IMO Calderon outboxes him in what is likely to be his last fight at 108 lbs.
http://www.tcpr.com/site/images/unif...boxeopromo.jpg
depending on the undercard i might consider going to see it live
I say segura catches him and stops him.
Seems a good match-up for the unification, by the way el terrible, Calderon moving up in weight? seems its been a long time hangin on his weight class amazingly he's able to that for a long time with his age. like Bernard Hopkins did in middle weights.
actually wouldn't be shocked if it happens, Calderon has been slowing down, and although not hurt, he went down in his last fight against a light hitter, but i think he has enough experience, skill, and stamina to outbox Segura (who does get wild at times) for the decision, at 35 he's basically in a no lose situation much like Finito Lopez was at the end of his career (more specifically his fights with Alvarez), if he loses it's mostly down to his age and fact that his best weapon is slowly going away (his speed), i honestly think that he retires by the end of the year or next year for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
yup i agree with ya bro. Segura will take a battering cause we all know he will be outboxed but giovanni will eventually catch him with one of those bombs and i just don't think calderon will handle it very well. Hey no matter what happens this will be a great fight. Pretty much no 1 vs no 2 like it should be.
I can't think of a better matchup of pure puncher vs pure boxer. To say that Segura gets "wild at times" is an understatement. His fight with Conchilla (sp?) was Segura winging the hooks for 2 rounds and surviving the next 10 rounds on heart.
I've only seen snippets of the Iron Boy. But I really like what I have seen. He's definately left his mark in the lower weight classes for history. It's far more impressive to me when the lower weight guys go undefeated.
Segura is already at the top of my list for favorite fighters after his two fights with Conchilla, though. I hope he sparks the old man out. I do not think he can win a decision, though.
well he's been talking about moving up to 112, no doubt that he's well aware that it wont hurt his legacy already so basically just taking the chance (or at least saying he is) and wants to try and get one more title in another divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by UKPH
one thing people might not know is that giovanni segura is a terrific body puncher. imo, this is the only way to defeat calderon because all of his opponents target his head but since he's such a defensive genius, they miss more often than not. segura loves to go to the body and if he does it religiously from round one, calderon is going to slow down immensely and segura will be able to KO in the later rounds. if segura abandons calderon's body and tries to headhunt, he'll lose to calderon by decision like all of calderon's prior opponents. not only is this calderon's toughest fight in his career, he's going up against the hardest hitter he has ever faced. should be an interesting battle!
Cazares is a bigger puncher than Segura and he's still going to be the toughest guy Calderon has fought after this fightQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
morales,
i forgot about hugo cazares. i was very surprised that cazares lost both times to calderon. that's why i say he, calderon, is an absolute defensive genius! but the thing is this, back when calderon beat cazares, he wasn't showing signs of aging like he is present day. that's why i think he's very vulnerable against segura. but if calderon does beat segura, it won't surprise me one bit because they guy is an absolute genius of a fighter.
i didn't know this fight was on ppv but i'm definitely going to buy it. it's a great clash between two little titans.
oh Segura is trained by Javier Capetillo (Margarito's former trainer) better watch those handwraps...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
jolz,
stfu assbite! you don't know anything about boxing except of YOU KNOW WHO!
oh really?you are insinuating that all I know is MANNY PACQUIAO? If that is the case, why was I able to comment on other boxing topics? The joke is on you, all you know is NUTHUGGING Mexican fighters and CHEATER...need I say more?you are just a troll...Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
;D
Your school should be ashamed for giving you a diploma...dumbass...
jolz,
all you and your people know is pacquiao, pacquiao, pacquiao and very little else. by the way, you seem to be very much on edge! why is that? gotta say that i don't blame you because if i had an itty bitty pecker like you i'd probably be pissed too. lol:mad:
Poor creature, you are now resorting to talking dirty huh? Can't quite defend your proposition eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
How foolish of you to talk about genitals. It just shows how uneducated you are. You are turning a boxing forum in to a gay thread. Don't worry bitch, you will have your time. I think the MODS here are not sleeping. Come on, you can do better than being stupid ;D
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Originally Posted by milmascaras1
I can't blame you if you think about your Mexican legends' destruction by Pacquiao each time you see a Philippine flag. Don't be so paranoid. You also have Mexicans beating Filipinos. Nut I think, you are having nightmares because of Pacquiao. Do not be too obsessed on your nightmare..;D
jolz,
actually pendejo, there is NO comparison between mexican and filipino boxing and you know it. now i know you all want to make this a rivalry and shiat but guess what, when one side is so dominant over the other, there is no rivalry. i've read many, many comments in various forums where everything mexicans do, you all want to do better or be better at. this seems like blatant green envy to me. where do you ever see mexicans trying to compete themselves with pinoys?
about pacquiao, yes, he is a great fighter and he's fortunate to have come along when morales, barrera and marquez were aging. hell, a semi-shot morales kicked packy's ass. imagine if morales was at his physical prime when he beat pacquiao?
but enough about that, let's talk about the little rivalry you pinoys want to have with mexican fighters. below are just a few stats i've researched since you pinoys wanted this rivalry. enjoy: :owned:
world champions: mexico - 110, philippines - 33
combined champions: mexico/mex-americans - 153, phil/fil-am - 35
Hall of Famers - IBHOF & WBHOF: mexico/mex-am - 41, philippines/fil-am - 4
total successful title defenses: mexico - 598, phil-fil-am: 58
* you've got to be kidding me! you mean to tell me that your 35 world champions have come up with only 58 title defenses? talk about weak!!!!!!!! :o
current world champions: mexico - 9, philippines - 2, packy and donnie nietes
division champions: mexico - 193, phil-am - 42
head-to-head in title fights: mexico - 46-23-4 and it's only going to get worse in the future!
currently, there are about 35-40 serious blue chip mexican prospects. can you name me how many the pelepens has?
i'm waiting for your response, pare.
annnd there goes my thread, way to fuck it up guys....so yea, how about them Cowboys...(cue the awkward silence)
haha pendejo your ass...So what if Mexico has more blue chip prospects than the Philippines? Oh yes, Mexico has more greater numbers than the Philippines based on the stats that you have given. There is no denying that. I love Mexican warriors and I could care less whoever wins in these kinds of match-ups. For me, as long as I have seen a great fight, I would not care if a Filipino loses. As long as I am entertained, I will still be happy. Unlike you, who becomes bitter if a Mexican loses a fight ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Boxing is alive because of Warrior races like Mexicans, Filipinos and Puerto Ricans..what is sickening here is your hatred toward Filipino fighters (maybe to Filipinos as well) Based on your threads..;D
but let's get back to the topic. it is about segura and calderon. why are you diverting the topic pendejo?You always show your Mexican nuthugging posts?;D
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I must say, I actually laughed out loud when I was reading through the thread and then read your post. Frigging hilarious timing!
;D ;D
The bad blood between I and milmascaras1 has ended;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I must say, I actually laughed out loud when I was reading through the thread and then read your post. Frigging hilarious timing!
;D ;D
Just like Barrera and Morales..:)
Calderon easy!