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Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
Also Toney getting a reported $750k to a million hahaha, Ufc is taking over boxing but Toney who is not even a draw in boxing gets paid that amount of money when the likes of Carwin gets 40k for a world title fight hahaha!!
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
5/2 for the first round looks a great bet.
I bet Couture gets him down inside the first 60 secs, then it's goodnight vienna for Toney.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
If Toney connects though it will be "Lights Out" for Couture. Don't forget he's never fought anyone with the hand speed, skill or power of Toney and he's been sparked with punches before. And then when you take into account Toneys timing I don't think this is such a foregone conclusion.
I'll admit if Toney gets taken down it should be over but if Couture tries charging at Toney with his head down, his head will get knocked off by a real boxers uppercut. Couture will have to be careful in the way he tries to take Toney down. Also if Toney does some dirty boxing (holding the back of Coutures head whilst punching), which is legal in the UFC but not in boxing due to the danger, I think the UFC may well see it's first death.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
If Toney connects though it will be "Lights Out" for Couture. Don't forget he's never fought anyone with the hand speed, skill or power of Toney and he's been sparked with punches before. And then when you take into account Toneys timing I don't think this is such a foregone conclusion.
I'll admit if Toney gets taken down it should be over but if Couture tries charging at Toney with his head down, his head will get knocked off by a real boxers uppercut. Couture will have to be careful in the way he tries to take Toney down. Also if Toney does some dirty boxing (holding the back of Coutures head whilst punching), which is legal in the UFC but not in boxing due to the danger, I think the UFC may well see it's first death.
Mate you serious? Randy Couture is one of the best grapplers/Wrestlers the sport has seen, I will have any bet sig bet whatever you wan't this will be a beatdown of the highest proportion, it's not even if he is facing a boxer who is at his highest level right now, he is facing a fat over the hill 40 year old.
I personally think this is Dana White trying to make a point boxing is dead and with Couture beating Toney with ease the headlines will be along the lines of UFC proves it is superior sport to boxing blah blah blah, where in reality imagine Couture fighting someone on the same level as him if the roles were reversed, Couture facing Toney in a boxing ring would be even worst, for someone with no Mixed Martial background to be thrown in on his debut against a bit past it but still a top UFC fighter is a bit silly really and anyone who thinks Toney is winning this is a bit silly themsleves imo.
Also to me it looks like Toney is there for the million doller payday if he had trained like he meant business he wouldn't have a gut like a ready to pop pregnant woman.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
If Toney connects though it will be "Lights Out" for Couture. Don't forget he's never fought anyone with the hand speed, skill or power of Toney and he's been sparked with punches before. And then when you take into account Toneys timing I don't think this is such a foregone conclusion.
I'll admit if Toney gets taken down it should be over but if Couture tries charging at Toney with his head down, his head will get knocked off by a real boxers uppercut. Couture will have to be careful in the way he tries to take Toney down. Also if Toney does some dirty boxing (holding the back of Coutures head whilst punching), which is legal in the UFC but not in boxing due to the danger, I think the UFC may well see it's first death.
Mate you serious? Randy Couture is one of the best grapplers/Wrestlers the sport has seen, I will have any bet sig bet whatever you wan't this will be a beatdown of the highest proportion, it's not even if he is facing a boxer who is at his highest level right now, he is facing a fat over the hill 40 year old.
I personally think this is Dana White trying to make a point boxing is dead and with Couture beating Toney with ease the headlines will be along the lines of UFC proves it is superior sport to boxing blah blah blah, where in reality imagine Couture fighting someone on the same level as him if the roles were reversed, Couture facing Toney in a boxing ring would be even worst, for someone with no Mixed Martial background to be thrown in on his debut against a bit past it but still a top UFC fighter is a bit silly really and anyone who thinks Toney is winning this is a bit silly themsleves imo.
Also to me it looks like Toney is there for the million doller payday if he had trained like he meant business he wouldn't have a gut like a ready to pop pregnant woman.
Yes and I expect Couture to win. But as Ray Mercer showed last year. If a Boxer (even an out of shape boxer with zero movement) lands on an MMA fighter, they will be knocked out. Thats what I'm saying. I know Toney is out of shape again and if Couture gets him down it's over, but whilst it's stood up and Toneys punching he has a very polished art behind him and that art is striking.
I don't care how fat Toney is, his timing is always good and even in boxing he has some power. Believe me if he hits Randy good Couture will never have felt a punch like it and he's hardly got a great chin anymore anyway.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
interesting, most boxing fans in this forum are actually doubting a toney win. that just shows that this forum is very different from other testosteroney-my discipline beats your discipline forums.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
If Toney connects though it will be "Lights Out" for Couture. Don't forget he's never fought anyone with the hand speed, skill or power of Toney and he's been sparked with punches before. And then when you take into account Toneys timing I don't think this is such a foregone conclusion.
I'll admit if Toney gets taken down it should be over but if Couture tries charging at Toney with his head down, his head will get knocked off by a real boxers uppercut. Couture will have to be careful in the way he tries to take Toney down. Also if Toney does some dirty boxing (holding the back of Coutures head whilst punching), which is legal in the UFC but not in boxing due to the danger, I think the UFC may well see it's first death.
Mate you serious? Randy Couture is one of the best grapplers/Wrestlers the sport has seen, I will have any bet sig bet whatever you wan't this will be a beatdown of the highest proportion, it's not even if he is facing a boxer who is at his highest level right now, he is facing a fat over the hill 40 year old.
I personally think this is Dana White trying to make a point boxing is dead and with Couture beating Toney with ease the headlines will be along the lines of UFC proves it is superior sport to boxing blah blah blah, where in reality imagine Couture fighting someone on the same level as him if the roles were reversed, Couture facing Toney in a boxing ring would be even worst, for someone with no Mixed Martial background to be thrown in on his debut against a bit past it but still a top UFC fighter is a bit silly really and anyone who thinks Toney is winning this is a bit silly themsleves imo.
Also to me it looks like Toney is there for the million doller payday if he had trained like he meant business he wouldn't have a gut like a ready to pop pregnant woman.
Yes and I expect Couture to win.
But as Ray Mercer showed last year. If a Boxer (even an out of shape boxer with zero movement) lands on an MMA fighter, they will be knocked out. Thats what I'm saying. I know Toney is out of shape again and if Couture gets him down it's over, but whilst it's stood up and Toneys punching he has a very polished art behind him and that art is striking.
I don't care how fat Toney is, his timing is always good and even in boxing he has some power. Believe me if he hits Randy good Couture will never have felt a punch like it and he's hardly got a great chin anymore anyway.
Mercer was fighting a stand up MMA fighter for starters so bit different situation, I have had a very tasty bet on this ending in the first 5 minutes and I am super confident.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
erik_corrales
interesting, most boxing fans in this forum are actually doubting a toney win. that just shows that this forum is very different from other testosteroney-my discipline beats your discipline forums.
Yeah, on some MMA forum people seriously think Kimbo Slice has some chances in boxing. (Although they clarify that they don't think he can beat the Klitschkos ;D).
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
therealremi
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Originally Posted by
erik_corrales
interesting, most boxing fans in this forum are actually doubting a toney win. that just shows that this forum is very different from other testosteroney-my discipline beats your discipline forums.
Yeah, on some MMA forum people seriously think Kimbo Slice has some chances in boxing. (Although they clarify that they don't think he can beat the Klitschkos ;D).
I actually think ICE could hang with Kimbo Slice as long as he completes his customary mile swim at the local baths before hand.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
Just found this. 2 mins in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nVy3hkcQuI
Toney: "I'll fight you both you on the same night".
Toney: "I'll beat you and yo' moma's ass".
;D
Eubank was speechless then came out with: ""I can't sleep at night when people say this" LOL
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
If Toney connects though it will be "Lights Out" for Couture. Don't forget he's never fought anyone with the hand speed, skill or power of Toney and he's been sparked with punches before. And then when you take into account Toneys timing I don't think this is such a foregone conclusion.
I'll admit if Toney gets taken down it should be over but if Couture tries charging at Toney with his head down, his head will get knocked off by a real boxers uppercut. Couture will have to be careful in the way he tries to take Toney down. Also if Toney does some dirty boxing (holding the back of Coutures head whilst punching), which is legal in the UFC but not in boxing due to the danger, I think the UFC may well see it's first death.
Mate you serious? Randy Couture is one of the best grapplers/Wrestlers the sport has seen, I will have any bet sig bet whatever you wan't this will be a beatdown of the highest proportion, it's not even if he is facing a boxer who is at his highest level right now, he is facing a fat over the hill 40 year old.
I personally think this is Dana White trying to make a point boxing is dead and with Couture beating Toney with ease the headlines will be along the lines of UFC proves it is superior sport to boxing blah blah blah, where in reality imagine Couture fighting someone on the same level as him if the roles were reversed, Couture facing Toney in a boxing ring would be even worst, for someone with no Mixed Martial background to be thrown in on his debut against a bit past it but still a top UFC fighter is a bit silly really and anyone who thinks Toney is winning this is a bit silly themsleves imo.
Also to me it looks like Toney is there for the million doller payday if he had trained like he meant business he wouldn't have a gut like a ready to pop pregnant woman.
Yes and I expect Couture to win.
But as Ray Mercer showed last year. If a Boxer (even an out of shape boxer with zero movement) lands on an MMA fighter, they will be knocked out. Thats what I'm saying. I know Toney is out of shape again and if Couture gets him down it's over, but whilst it's stood up and Toneys punching he has a very polished art behind him and that art is striking.
I don't care how fat Toney is, his timing is always good and even in boxing he has some power. Believe me if he hits Randy good Couture will never have felt a punch like it and he's hardly got a great chin anymore anyway.
Mercer was fighting a stand up MMA fighter for starters so bit different situation, I have had a very tasty bet on this ending in the first 5 minutes and I am super confident.
I think if I was to bet on the fight I would take the same one but Toney is very dangerous against a none boxer whilst the fight is stood up whether he is out of shape or not, that is the point i'm trying to make and that is why I give Toney a chance.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
koppas
Just found this. 2 mins in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nVy3hkcQuI
Toney: "I'll fight you both you on the same night".
Toney: "I'll beat you and yo' moma's ass".
;D
Eubank was speechless then came out with: ""I can't sleep at night when people say this" LOL
Toney's speech there to now is quite shocking really, they even had subtitles on the UFC promo, love or hate Toney he is the best talker since Ali for sure. ;D
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Had to check boxrec cause I couldn't remember the last time Toney stopped anyone. Since it was 7 years ago can we lose the "Lights Out" moniker and start calling him "Third Trimester" ?
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
killersheep
Had to check boxrec cause I couldn't remember the last time Toney stopped anyone. Since it was 7 years ago can we lose the "Lights Out" moniker and start calling him "Third Trimester" ?
Toney Ko'd some bum last year in 2 rounds.
237 is Toneys highest weight ever. The only time he has been this heavy was against Rahman and he was awful in that fight. He looked sloppy, off balance and a shadow of the Toney we remember who had class and movement. By round 6 Toney couldnt move anymore and had to stand still. Why he would weigh this much against Randy I dont know because he clearly needs stamina in the cage for 5 minute rounds and thats exactly what he didnt have last time he weighed this much. He is obviously banking on winning with 1 punch.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
GAME
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Originally Posted by
killersheep
Had to check boxrec cause I couldn't remember the last time Toney stopped anyone. Since it was 7 years ago can we lose the "Lights Out" moniker and start calling him "Third Trimester" ?
Toney Ko'd some bum last year in 2 rounds.
237 is Toneys highest weight ever. The only time he has been this heavy was against Rahman and he was awful in that fight. He looked sloppy, off balance and a shadow of the Toney we remember who had class and movement. By round 6 Toney couldnt move anymore and had to stand still. Why he would weigh this much against Randy I dont know because he clearly needs stamina in the cage for 5 minute rounds and thats exactly what he didnt have last time he weighed this much. He is obviously banking on winning with 1 punch.
I still like the ring of James "Third Trimester" Toney.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
Also Toney getting a reported $750k to a million hahaha, Ufc is taking over boxing but Toney who is not even a draw in boxing gets paid that amount of money when the likes of Carwin gets 40k for a world title fight hahaha!!
Is this a fact? If so then it looks like MMA is desperate for celebrities and it is freak fights that generate PPV $. Doesn't surprise me much cause when it gets gay in the cage then the average viewer doesn't realize WTF is going on - in boxing they can at least see the punches.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
therealremi
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
Also Toney getting a reported $750k to a million hahaha, Ufc is taking over boxing but Toney who is not even a draw in boxing gets paid that amount of money when the likes of Carwin gets 40k for a world title fight hahaha!!
Is this a fact? If so then it looks like MMA is desperate for celebrities and it is freak fights that generate PPV $. Doesn't surprise me much cause when it gets gay in the cage then the average viewer doesn't realize WTF is going on - in boxing they can at least see the punches.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...dw-toney082710
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
erik_corrales
interesting, most boxing fans in this forum are actually doubting a toney win. that just shows that this forum is very different from other testosteroney-my discipline beats your discipline forums.
Yeah but this forum has posters who think they could hang with the best fighter in the sport. Beat that Eastside Boxing. :cool:
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
Love Toney,one of my all time favorites. Not a fan at all of mma, don't know much at all of Couture except he has a great first name...... I want Toney to get absolutely pole axed and beat convincingly ?! And I'm still trying to figure out why.
It all comes down to Toney needing to catch him coming in. That's it and that's the only question and possibility for Toney. A all time great, a master calculator and ring general with infighting, defensive throw back wiz who at peak I personally believe could have competed in any era, with any fighter, and more than held his own on equal terms.......has become and is content to be a farcical cartoon relying on 'punchers chance' in a theater he knows little of,now painfully unintelligable to listen to. He's one step away from strapping on gimmick gloves, waistband high around chest and taking on boxing circus bears for Sunday crowds at the State fair.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
erik_corrales
interesting, most boxing fans in this forum are actually doubting a toney win. that just shows that this forum is very different from other testosteroney-my discipline beats your discipline forums.
Yeah but this forum has posters who think they could hang with the best fighter in the sport. Beat that Eastside Boxing. :cool:
ICB is NEVER gonna live that down. ;D
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
The more i've thought about this today, the more disappointed i've got with Toney. He really is letting boxing down going in so much overweight. I know WE (as boxing fans) all know this is not really James "lights out" Toney, the man that KO'd Michael Nunn and shocked the world and then went on to defend his title multiple times and then move up through the weights winning titles and so on.
But the likes of Dana White (a guy who really pisses me off by constantly playing boxing against the UFC, yet keeps on insisting he is "such a big boxing fan" even though he doesn't even know who Juan Manuel Marquez is) will make out that this is the guy that fought tonight and not just some fat bloke who looks a bit like him and is 15 years past his prime.
I am really hoping for Toney to land a big shot before he gets taken down and then inevitably beaten to a pulp, otherwise all we are going to hear is how much better the MMA fighters are than boxers. But my hopes are being dashed by Toney clearly not being in shape for this fight. I know I should know better but when I read this week that Toney wants to win his UFC fight then come back to boxing and unify the HW division by beating Haye and the Klits, I really thought Toney had sorted his head out and was getting ready for one last shot at the big time, and despite the fact I KNOW he has no chance of beating Haye or the Klits, I thought he was going to go down fighting at least. But then what does he do? He comes in weighing 20lbs more than in his last boxing match when he was still out of shape and a full 80lbs more than when he fought his historic battle with Nunn.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
Toney to win using a rear naked choke.
Couture's gonna tap out like a bitch.
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Re: Toney v Couture weigh in , Toney looks 5 months pregnant. Toney 237 Couture 220!
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Originally Posted by
koppas
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
erik_corrales
interesting, most boxing fans in this forum are actually doubting a toney win. that just shows that this forum is very different from other testosteroney-my discipline beats your discipline forums.
Yeah but this forum has posters who think they could hang with the best fighter in the sport. Beat that Eastside Boxing. :cool:
ICB is NEVER gonna live that down. ;D
I think Toney needs to start swimming a mile a day :D