Do u think haye wants wlad & vitali to lose?
the longer the haye v the brothers fights dont happen the more chance that one of them loses, do u think haye would prefer this to happen so that he doesnt have to fight either of them, i think haye might be waiting a long time cos the brothers seem like they can defend there titles for a long time, i think there is more chance that haye loses in a defence b4 the brothers do?
in the event the brothers lose then haye would claim he is the best without ever having to fight them.
i really hope this isnt the case & haye does generally wanna fight the klitscko's?
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Would you rather fight a fat toilet plodder like Peter or an awkward skilled giant like Wlad?
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Not at all, it would take all the gloss of his win if he beats them on the back of a loss.
they won't lose, not until they eventually meet Haye in 5 years time
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0james0
Not at all, it would take all the gloss of his win if he beats them on the back of a loss.
they won't lose, not until they eventually meet Haye in 5 years time
So haye will be beating a 43 year or old vitali , and a 39 year old wlad, yeah he should be proud of those.
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0james0
Not at all, it would take all the gloss of his win if he beats them on the back of a loss.
they won't lose, not until they eventually meet Haye in 5 years time
So haye will be beating a 43 year or old vitali , and a 39 year old wlad, yeah he should be proud of those.
Looks like he might be beating an 80 year old Holyfield soon and he'll be proud of that! ;)
I was only answering the question;), no I dont think he wants them to lose, will be far less money if they do
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0james0
I was only answering the question;), no I dont think he wants them to lose, will be far less money if they do
Sure it would mean less money, but he'd go all Floyd Mayweather on them "They were never worth my time" all that bullshit....guys like him never "lose" they just keep talking trash
To be totally honest the guy needs to worry more about who he DOES fight and not the Klitschko's....don't worry about them until you decide to finally fight one of them. He needs to watch out for guys like Tony Thompson who aren't powerful but will hand you a loss. I keep touting Thompson because the dude is big, he has great defense, he wins rounds, and he's got one hell of a chin....he's a little stiff when he fights, but he is hard to hit clean. The smaller heavyweights also pose a threat...all the guys I mentioned in my earlier post would give him hell.
As sad as it is to say it's the truth "Chicken Little just isn't a tested heavyweight" sure he has a title but Jesus he's fought in the Bush league of the heavyweight division...I'm not so sure he's the 3rd or even 4th best heavyweight in the division...sure he's undefeated at heavyweight but vs who?
Re: Do u think haye wants wlad & vitali to lose?
Nope, either of those big men losing to some fat bum would be very bad for haye cuz he won't get the same money fighting anyone else.
But really what are the chances of either of them losing to the bum's they're fighting. Not likely in my opinion.
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Yeah call wlad's opponents bums if you want to but at least most of them are ring rated bums...never mind I think I'll just come to the conclusion it's not worth arguing about haye's statements and actions with some brits.
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Nope, either of those big men losing to some fat bum would be very bad for haye cuz he won't get the same money fighting anyone else.
But really what are the chances of either of them losing to the bum's they're fighting. Not likely in my opinion.
What are the chances of Chicken Little losing to Sam Peter or Shannon Briggs? I'm not taking a dig this time... I just want your honest opinion. Even I know and admit Chicken Little would be a heavy favorite in both fights, but there's more risk fighting either of these "bums" (as you called them) than fighting Audley. What kind of chance would you give them? 10%? 20%? 30% maybe?
I also would like to ask you (and I do hope I'm not taking us too far off topic here), outside of the Klitschko Brothers, who's the biggest threat to Chicken Little? I just want your opinion is all.
Losing out on that kind of cash for 1 maybe 2 fights would seriously hurt, but wouldn't Chicken Little have a little more gravy spill on his taters with those two out of his way? Wouldn't he be able to finally unify and actually have a realistic shot at doing so if they lost? I think in terms of 1 fight he loses big time but if he fought 5-8 more times he could make it back....of course that asking a ton of this cat...he may be 40 before fighting 8 times :rolleyes:
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Hornfinger
Nope, either of those big men losing to some fat bum would be very bad for haye cuz he won't get the same money fighting anyone else.
But really what are the chances of either of them losing to the bum's they're fighting. Not likely in my opinion.
What are the chances of Chicken Little losing to Sam Peter or Shannon Briggs? I'm not taking a dig this time... I just want your honest opinion. Even I know and admit Chicken Little would be a heavy favorite in both fights, but there's more risk fighting either of these "bums" (as you called them) than fighting Audley. What kind of chance would you give them? 10%? 20%? 30% maybe?
I also would like to ask you (and I do hope I'm not taking us too far off topic here), outside of the Klitschko Brothers, who's the biggest threat to Chicken Little? I just want your opinion is all.
Losing out on that kind of cash for 1 maybe 2 fights would seriously hurt, but wouldn't Chicken Little have a little more gravy spill on his taters with those two out of his way? Wouldn't he be able to finally unify and actually have a realistic shot at doing so if they lost? I think in terms of 1 fight he loses big time but if he fought 5-8 more times he could make it back....of course that asking a ton of this cat...he may be 40 before fighting 8 times :rolleyes:
Again..... i have to repeat myself.......
IMO briggs and peter are just as good or bad as ruiz valuev arreola and anyone else. As I've said before they are all much of a muchness.
I would expect haye to beat either of them. Haye would be too elusive for either.
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Yes but unlike Valuev and Ruiz...1 shot from Sam Peter or Shannon Briggs and it's goodnight sweetheart.
Chicken Little is yet (no matter what people think of Monte Barrett) to fight a heavyweight fighter with a decent punch ergo you'd have to admit given his past that he'd be in a little bit more dangerous territories than he has been in recently.
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El Kabong
Yes but unlike Valuev and Ruiz...1 shot from Sam Peter or Shannon Briggs and it's goodnight sweetheart.
Chicken Little is yet (no matter what people think of Monte Barrett) to fight a heavyweight fighter with a decent punch ergo you'd have to admit given his past that he'd be in a little bit more dangerous territories than he has been in recently.
Decent punch doesn't matter that much if you can outbox them lately. As the aforementioned Barrett beat David Tua who people were saying would take the division with. When all a fighter has is 'a punch' they seem to be taken out by someone with boxing skill. Briggs can knock you out if its in the first 3 rounds, Peter i haven't been impressed with and think Wladimer will stop him this time.
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El Kabong
Yes but unlike Valuev and Ruiz...1 shot from Sam Peter or Shannon Briggs and it's goodnight sweetheart.
Chicken Little is yet (no matter what people think of Monte Barrett) to fight a heavyweight fighter with a decent punch ergo you'd have to admit given his past that he'd be in a little bit more dangerous territories than he has been in recently.
Hold on pal. If ruiz or valuev had hit haye with a full on shot I think either could have KO'ed him. they just couldn't hit him. And that would be the same story if haye fought peter or briggs, also you heard me right. I think the klits probably have better chins than haye.
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Many might well be pushing wlad to ko sam early, he's been on a rant lately about there not being any tru knock out artists or something...I think wlad could ko sam in 5 or 6 and still be cautious just up his workrate a bit throw plenty of jabs and start coming with the cross and hook early when he says openings.I still think it'll be around the 9th or 10th tho.
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I'm saying circa the 7th because Sam is going to pressure Wladimir and anyone that willingly attacks Wlad first and doesn't sit back to counter is just going to get tee'd off on. Wlad is going to pummel Sam Peter...I hate it for the guy because at least he has the stones to fight Wlad, but someone has to win and someone has to lose.
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i can see peters getting his head jabbed all night
