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Thanks bomba, due to moving back to Europe and jet lag yesterday I couldn't see it, it's much appreciated buddy:)
Been looking forward to this one, thanks very much.
As soon as Erik warmed up he was just two classy for Limond no shame in that.
...an ok outing by morales....it almost sucks to see him win cause it'll just encourage him to keep fighting
Anyone know why Erik was holding the WBC title after the fight?
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Originally Posted by GAME
One of the special belts that they give certain fights now like the shitty Diamond one Pac Cotto fought for. :rolleyes:
lol so Morales is now the wbc gold, frankincense and myrrh Super dooper welterweight champ cuz of his win over the legendary Willie Limond. These titles are so humiliating the fighters should be boxing not to win them. The loser should go home with the belt as punishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
One of the special belts that they give certain fights now like the shitty Diamond one Pac Cotto fought for. :rolleyes:
Glad Erik won which British fighter will he fight next? :)
been a great fan of morales throughout the years but i think he really should just retire. he has nothing left and the first good fighter he faces will beat him up. if he actually thinks he can beat marquez, he's just kidding himself because marquez will put a nasty beating on him. morales, do all of your fans a favor and retire with your health and dignity in tact.
Yeah, im not against Morales coming back because hes not completely shot to bits but on this hes just too slow on the trigger and only fights when hes taken a shot. He doesnt fire off those rapid combinations he used to either. Maybe its just the weight hes at?
I will say that on boths last fight as evidence then Morales would get stopped by Marquez but who knows maybe Morales is still a bit rusty? After 4 rounds he started landing and forcing it better. At least Limmond didnt drop Morales like he did Khan;D
I still don't get how he stopped him. He didn't seem to land much but a few body shots.
Going by Limonds reactions i would guess those body shots hurt. Hope this helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Haha you sarcy cunt. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterGoing by Limonds reactions i would guess those body shots hurt. Hope this helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Come on you deserved that ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by onoHaha you sarcy cunt. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterGoing by Limonds reactions i would guess those body shots hurt. Hope this helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Haha i know. What i meant was, he didn't immediately seem that hurt by them and he carried on throwing for a few seconds before just touching down. I was wondering if he was knackered rather than badly hurt...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterCome on you deserved that ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by onoHaha you sarcy cunt. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterGoing by Limonds reactions i would guess those body shots hurt. Hope this helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Probably a combination. Body shots often have a delayed reaction and that first one really seemed to take the wind out of his sails. Prior to that Limond had been slowing down, so I think a combination of fighting being fatigued at altitude and hurting a lot to the body which Morales kept targetting.
Morales looked a bit shot for the first3, but he did sharpen up well. I don't know how he fares against anyone good tbh.
yet when Barrera was fighting Khan for the vacant WBO Inter-Continental lightweight title, you tried to make it out as if Barrera was going for his 4th in his 4th division :rolleyes:, all titles are crapQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMElol so Morales is now the wbc gold, frankincense and myrrh Super dooper welterweight champ cuz of his win over the legendary Willie Limond. These titles are so humiliating the fighters should be boxing not to win them. The loser should go home with the belt as punishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
One of the special belts that they give certain fights now like the shitty Diamond one Pac Cotto fought for. :rolleyes:
Thinking about it now because thats what I thought as well, that he looked craap to start with. His first comeback fight was 6 months before this, thats a fair amount of time between fights when youve been out a few years. Hopefully he takes a fight late in November and then I reckon he will look alot sharper, sooner in the fight. Maybe take on a Casamayor then Juan Diaz?Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
No I didnt. If it was for the world title it would have been but the WBO didnt sanction it. Morales is shaming himself by clinging onto titles that mean nothing. It was like Audley holding the WBF title.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyet when Barrera was fighting Khan for the vacant WBO Inter-Continental lightweight title, you tried to make it out as if Barrera was going for his 4th in his 4th division :rolleyes:, all titles are crapQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMElol so Morales is now the wbc gold, frankincense and myrrh Super dooper welterweight champ cuz of his win over the legendary Willie Limond. These titles are so humiliating the fighters should be boxing not to win them. The loser should go home with the belt as punishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
One of the special belts that they give certain fights now like the shitty Diamond one Pac Cotto fought for. :rolleyes:
I think he just quit cuz he sensed the fight was slipping away from him. Im always sus when a fighter punches the canvas in anger when a second earlier he was supposed to be crippled by a body shot. Reminded me of Oscar - Hopkins when he had to mask his relief by pretending to be disapointed. I dont think a punch landed for the final Limond Knockdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoHaha i know. What i meant was, he didn't immediately seem that hurt by them and he carried on throwing for a few seconds before just touching down. I was wondering if he was knackered rather than badly hurt...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterCome on you deserved that ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by onoHaha you sarcy cunt. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterGoing by Limonds reactions i would guess those body shots hurt. Hope this helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
here's a thread you started about Barrera fighting for a "world title" when it's just a garbage interim title, both Morales and Barrera are fighting for the same thing, a record 4th title, their in the same exact boat
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-jan-31-a.html
Limmond had the air knocked out of him, he couldnt breath! Iv been hit by a shot to the ribs like that before and every punch after on the same spot just winds you. It must be because it bruises the diaphragm, the muscle that draws air in to the lungs.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
His punching the canvas was genuine frustration, knowing that he had blown his chance after a good few rounds. Oscars combination on the canvas wasnt:rolleyes:
Morales is 130% shot and he'll get taken apart by any top fighter. I want no part of him against Marquez.
Yeah whats your point. I still say the same thing. If the WBO sanctioned the fight it would have been Barrera 4th weight world title. That crappy WBC superdooper trash Morales was clinging onto after beating Limond wasnt a world title by any stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
ummm my point is that's a thread YOU started, trying to build up a fight Barrera was rumored to be having for a vacant INTERIM title as a world title fight, an interim belt is by no means a WORLD TITLE, it's not that complicatedQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEYeah whats your point. I still say the same thing. If the WBO sanctioned the fight it would have been Barrera 4th weight world title. That crappy WBC superdooper trash Morales was clinging onto after beating Limond wasnt a world title by any stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Sad to see an old used-up Eric Morales in there with the visible fat on his sides bulging over his trunks.
He used to be in such razor-sharp condition without an ounce of fat on him, but even old, fat, and slow, he still delivered some wicked left hooks to the liver to stop Limond.
Morales dropped a ton of weight for this fight.
I was amazed at just how fat he got after retirement but didn't cast stones nor think any less of him.
I think he was a great fighter. After years of extremely hard training and taking physical abuse, they deserve to take it easy.
If a man was once world-class, even when he's old and faded and can't do the job at the top anymore, he'll still be able to beat the Willie Limonds of the world who were never world-class to begin with.
It's why an ancient Larry Holmes and an ancient George Foreman were able to consistently knock over all those young 20-something year old club-fighters who were in their physical primes.
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Eric Morales and Margarito.
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...t-5181-1-1.jpg
Morales and Pacquiao:
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/1052/morpaqiiiwi.jpg
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you should take Foreman's name off of there cause an old Foreman still ended up the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World, and beat up a guy who will be fighting for the WBC HW title next month (Foreman was robbed against Briggs)Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Big George Foreman etched an unforgettable chapter in Boxing lore by becoming the lineal Heavyweight Champion at 45 years old. Deserves tremendous respect for that accomplishment. 2 time Heavyweight champion.
I was so moved when he went to his knees in the corner and prayed.
However, I think ultimately that win was bad for boxing.
It brought in a lot of money and media to see if the old man could do it, but his win was ultimately bad for the sport.
No 45 year old man should be able to whup a 27 year old Heavyweight Champ in his physical prime; it's a travesty.
It bespeaks the old saying that fighters today aren't as good as the fighters of yesteryear. I want to stay positive and give today's fighters the credit, but there it is:
Young prime George gets KO'd by Ali, he gets knocked down and decisioned by a feather-fisted Jimmy Young, bopped around by Ron Lyle, retires for 10 years and then can come back and knock out the #1 Heavyweight in the world?! At 45 years old.
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or it goes to show what a fully dedicated HW with awesome power can do when he's completely motivated, i don't see it as a negative at allQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Thats a load of shiit! It just proved that A, Foreman was a special fighter and B, Moorer isnt a natural heavyweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
I think if that fight happened today between a 45 year old Foreman and Haye the same result would happen and maybe earlier;D
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Originally Posted by rossThats a load of shiit! It just proved that A, Foreman was a special fighter and B, Moorer isnt a natural heavyweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
I think if that fight happened today between a 45 year old Foreman and Haye the same result would happen and maybe earlier;D
Right.
Foreman lost to top guys in the 70s, but after a 10 retirement and carrying 50 lbs of extra fat on his gut, and slow as molasses at 45 years old, he could still beat the best of the 90s.
At his peak, he got knocked out by Ali, but as a fat old man, he could go the distance with a prime peak Champ in Holyfield?
Foreman can't beat powder-puff punching Jimmy Young in the 70s, but as a fat, old man, he can stop the prime peak Champ, Michael Moorer?
...and now you're saying a fat, old, slow Foreman could have beat one of the current best, David Haye?
Maybe you fellas are right then about what you're saying: fighters today aren't as good as the fighters of yesteryear..
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Foreman, Moorer and Haye all moved up to heavyweight:rolleyes: Foreman will always do well against smaller men that arent natural heavyweights.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180Quote:
Originally Posted by rossThats a load of shiit! It just proved that A, Foreman was a special fighter and B, Moorer isnt a natural heavyweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
I think if that fight happened today between a 45 year old Foreman and Haye the same result would happen and maybe earlier;D
Right.
Foreman lost to top guys in the 70s, but after a 10 retirement and carrying 50 lbs of extra fat on his gut, and slow as molasses at 45 years old, he could still beat the best of the 90s.
At his peak, he got knocked out by Ali, but as a fat old man, he could go the distance with a prime peak Champ in Holyfield?
Foreman can't beat powder-puff punching Jimmy Young in the 70s, but as a fat, old man, he can stop the prime peak Champ, Michael Moorer?
...and now you're saying a fat, old, slow Foreman could have beat one of the current best, David Haye?
Maybe you fellas are right then about what you're saying: fighters today aren't as good as the fighters of yesteryear..
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Moorer was winning that fight and tedy warned him of the right commin, moorer just didn't listen and got ktfo. Remember Moorer moved up from 175. Also in one of the first fights I remember watching on tv, Foreman fought shultz, and shultz being the unlucky dude that he was lost(can't remember if I thought robbery or not), and foreman instead of rematching him gave up the title Also while it's not a fight I personally have seen he lost to the "great" tony morrison. There were just a shit ton of people rooting for foreman, and certain people knew it would make them a shit ton of money, so they found a way to get foreman crowned the heavyweight champ. Not saying it wasn't spectacular to do what he did at 40+ but it's hardly like he was whooping everyone left and right.
It was gonna be for the world title. It wasnt interim. I dont understand which bit is confusing you. A proper world title means summat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm my point is that's a thread YOU started, trying to build up a fight Barrera was rumored to be having for a vacant INTERIM title as a world title fight, an interim belt is by no means a WORLD TITLE, it's not that complicatedQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEYeah whats your point. I still say the same thing. If the WBO sanctioned the fight it would have been Barrera 4th weight world title. That crappy WBC superdooper trash Morales was clinging onto after beating Limond wasnt a world title by any stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
re-read your OWN original post, it says INTERIM pretty damn clearly thereQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEIt was gonna be for the world title. It wasnt interim. I dont understand which bit is confusing you. A proper world title means summat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm my point is that's a thread YOU started, trying to build up a fight Barrera was rumored to be having for a vacant INTERIM title as a world title fight, an interim belt is by no means a WORLD TITLE, it's not that complicatedQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEYeah whats your point. I still say the same thing. If the WBO sanctioned the fight it would have been Barrera 4th weight world title. That crappy WBC superdooper trash Morales was clinging onto after beating Limond wasnt a world title by any stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
"According to the word coming out of Mexico, Marco Antonio Barrera's upcoming bout against Johnny Nolasco (17-4, 8KOs) will be for the vacant WBO interim-lightweight title.The ten round lightweight contest will take place in Guadalajara, Mexico on January 31."
i dont know if you will find this interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180Quote:
Originally Posted by rossThats a load of shiit! It just proved that A, Foreman was a special fighter and B, Moorer isnt a natural heavyweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
I think if that fight happened today between a 45 year old Foreman and Haye the same result would happen and maybe earlier;D
Right.
Foreman lost to top guys in the 70s, but after a 10 retirement and carrying 50 lbs of extra fat on his gut, and slow as molasses at 45 years old, he could still beat the best of the 90s.
At his peak, he got knocked out by Ali, but as a fat old man, he could go the distance with a prime peak Champ in Holyfield?
Foreman can't beat powder-puff punching Jimmy Young in the 70s, but as a fat, old man, he can stop the prime peak Champ, Michael Moorer?
...and now you're saying a fat, old, slow Foreman could have beat one of the current best, David Haye?
Maybe you fellas are right then about what you're saying: fighters today aren't as good as the fighters of yesteryear..
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The point is it wasnt for the title. Had it been then it would have been a genuine 4th title which is what Ive always said. Morales belt he was holding after limond was not a legit title and only a Morales fanboy would say it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesre-read your OWN original post, it says INTERIM pretty damn clearly thereQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEIt was gonna be for the world title. It wasnt interim. I dont understand which bit is confusing you. A proper world title means summat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm my point is that's a thread YOU started, trying to build up a fight Barrera was rumored to be having for a vacant INTERIM title as a world title fight, an interim belt is by no means a WORLD TITLE, it's not that complicatedQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEYeah whats your point. I still say the same thing. If the WBO sanctioned the fight it would have been Barrera 4th weight world title. That crappy WBC superdooper trash Morales was clinging onto after beating Limond wasnt a world title by any stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
"According to the word coming out of Mexico, Marco Antonio Barrera's upcoming bout against Johnny Nolasco (17-4, 8KOs) will be for the vacant WBO interim-lightweight title.The ten round lightweight contest will take place in Guadalajara, Mexico on January 31."
ummm where have i claimed on here that it was a legit title? i said both Barrera and Morales have only been fighting for little trinkets that are even more garbage that the rest of the so called world titles, the only thing is you have it as being ok when Barrera did it, and now try to slam Morales for doing the same thingQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEThe point is it wasnt for the title. Had it been then it would have been a genuine 4th title which is what Ive always said. Morales belt he was holding after limond was not a legit title and only a Morales fanboy would say it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesre-read your OWN original post, it says INTERIM pretty damn clearly thereQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEIt was gonna be for the world title. It wasnt interim. I dont understand which bit is confusing you. A proper world title means summat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm my point is that's a thread YOU started, trying to build up a fight Barrera was rumored to be having for a vacant INTERIM title as a world title fight, an interim belt is by no means a WORLD TITLE, it's not that complicatedQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEYeah whats your point. I still say the same thing. If the WBO sanctioned the fight it would have been Barrera 4th weight world title. That crappy WBC superdooper trash Morales was clinging onto after beating Limond wasnt a world title by any stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
"According to the word coming out of Mexico, Marco Antonio Barrera's upcoming bout against Johnny Nolasco (17-4, 8KOs) will be for the vacant WBO interim-lightweight title.The ten round lightweight contest will take place in Guadalajara, Mexico on January 31."
both guys are fighting for fancy paperweights, only a Barrera fanboy would try to slam Morales for it and then go on to try to play up Barrera's "accomplishments" when he does the same exact thing
Its not the exact same thing though is it. a Proper legit world title means more than whatever that strap Morales was holding on Saturday means. You will never accept this fact so theres no point going on with this debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm where have i claimed on here that it was a legit title? i said both Barrera and Morales have only been fighting for little trinkets that are even more garbage that the rest of the so called world titles, the only thing is you have it as being ok when Barrera did it, and now try to slam Morales for doing the same thingQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEThe point is it wasnt for the title. Had it been then it would have been a genuine 4th title which is what Ive always said. Morales belt he was holding after limond was not a legit title and only a Morales fanboy would say it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesre-read your OWN original post, it says INTERIM pretty damn clearly thereQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEIt was gonna be for the world title. It wasnt interim. I dont understand which bit is confusing you. A proper world title means summat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm my point is that's a thread YOU started, trying to build up a fight Barrera was rumored to be having for a vacant INTERIM title as a world title fight, an interim belt is by no means a WORLD TITLE, it's not that complicatedQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEYeah whats your point. I still say the same thing. If the WBO sanctioned the fight it would have been Barrera 4th weight world title. That crappy WBC superdooper trash Morales was clinging onto after beating Limond wasnt a world title by any stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
"According to the word coming out of Mexico, Marco Antonio Barrera's upcoming bout against Johnny Nolasco (17-4, 8KOs) will be for the vacant WBO interim-lightweight title.The ten round lightweight contest will take place in Guadalajara, Mexico on January 31."
both guys are fighting for fancy paperweights, only a Barrera fanboy would try to slam Morales for it and then go on to try to play up Barrera's "accomplishments" when he does the same exact thing