Warren offers Groves deal to fight Degale has by wednesday to accept

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I would love to know the ins and outs of it no doubt rights to Groves next 3 fights if he wins :p.

On another note has there been a better domestic clash between two fighters both under ten fights each anyone can think of? Not in my time for sure, I hope this can be made. I doubt it will though. Adam Booth is also involved so there is basically no chance. ;D

I would love to see this fight. Really I would. I'd take Groves personally, unless the fight were to be stopped by the ref in the first round because a few unanswered punches landed on Groves gloves....

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I would love to see this fight. Really I would. I'd take Groves personally, unless the fight were to be stopped by the ref in the first round because a few unanswered punches landed on Groves gloves....

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Sounds like bullshit to me why the hell has Warren put a 48 hour deadline on it? This is a huge fight, the date is not till the 11th December give him and his team at least a week or so ffs.

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I would love to see this fight. Really I would. I'd take Groves personally, unless the fight were to be stopped by the ref in the first round because a few unanswered punches landed on Groves gloves....

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Sounds like bullshit to me why the hell has Warren put a 48 hour deadline on it? This is a huge fight, the date is not till the 11th December give him and his team at least a week or so ffs.

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Prob just a bit of balls talkin for a short while. I would be surprised really if either side wnated this fight yet. Keep building it for a year or two I'd say.

I really dislike James De Gale.

I see the name "Frank Warren" in an article and I get an automatic rise in my cynicism levels whatever the context is in. So when I see the sentence "He will not get better money elsewhere" probably looks at the fact that he's still only really going to be fighting journeymen without this fight. Whether the rise in money is equatable with the rise in risk would be interesting to see.

Be good to see it happen, and I think Groves would probably be my favourite for this one, he's been less hype and more action in his pro career so far.

I'd love to see this, but it's not going to happen. Not least on 48 hours notice.

I'm still leaning towards De Gale though, I think he's simply got more skills than Groves.

I think De Gale would take this fight. I really hope he wouldn't though, the lad gets right on my tits but you can see he has some real class and with the right people behind him could go a long way. I'm not totally sold on Groves yet, his style looks a bit too molded on Hayes but he doesn't have the natural athleticism or power of Haye. Still only a young lads with lots to learn yet though.

I actually hope it doesn't happen for a couple of years yet. This has time to build into a great rivalry!

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I think De Gale would take this fight. I really hope he wouldn't though, the lad gets right on my tits but you can see he has some real class and with the right people behind him could go a long way. I'm not totally sold on Groves yet, his style looks a bit too molded on Hayes but he doesn't have the natural athleticism or power of Haye. Still only a young lads with lots to learn yet though.

I actually hope it doesn't happen for a couple of years yet. This has time to build into a great rivalry!

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mate if i had to stake my house on either guy id lump it on groves being far too technically minded and busy for JDG

I actually like de gale, showed nothing but respect for the locals when he came to upton park and won over a few fans that night. But this whole "it will be like haye-maccarinelli all over again" is a complete joke of a statement to be making.

This would have the potential to be an absolute classic. De gale has the hand speed and the footwork, groves has the technical ability and the workrate. Complete pick`em if you ask me

Ah yes but if they do fight now, then we can sit back and enjoy the build up to a rematch that'll probably take place when both guys are in their 40's :)

No seriously, this is a bit of a dream fight for me. I'm not too sure who I'd go for... Haven't seen Degale's last couple of fights.

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Ah yes but if they do fight now, then we can sit back and enjoy the build up to a rematch that'll probably take place when both guys are in their 40's :)

No seriously, this is a bit of a dream fight for me. I'm not too sure who I'd go for... Haven't seen Degale's last couple of fights.

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JDG is moving through the gears perfectly right now. Everything is in place for him to go on and start picking up a few alphabet titles before moving on to bigger things.

This is a far riskier excursion for james than it is for george

Groves has the workrate? I always slate him for not throwing enough punches. He's turned into a total clone of Haye but doesn't have the awesome one punch power (although he is a good puncher).

I'd love this fight to happen now. It's all very well saying WAIT until they become world-class but they might not ever get there.

Sadly it wont happen though. We'll be hearing about options and silly money and all the usual bullshit :rolleyes:

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Groves has the workrate? I always slate him for not throwing enough punches. He's turned into a total clone of Haye but doesn't have the awesome one punch power (although he is a good puncher).

I'd love this fight to happen now. It's all very well saying WAIT until they become world-class but they might not ever get there.

Sadly it wont happen though. We'll be hearing about options and silly money and all the usual bullshit :rolleyes:

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Speaking of which Boxing - DeGale-Groves update

Booth has made a better counter offer and now expects Warren and De Gale to step up in 48 hours as they were expected to.

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Speaking of which Boxing - DeGale-Groves update

Booth has made a better counter offer and now expects Warren and De Gale to step up in 48 hours as they were expected to.

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As is customary then, both promoters want to put it on their own bills, and don't want it to appear on each others'. At least there won't be a long wait until the fans get let down (or shock, horror the fight gets made).

Whilst i would love to see this fight it is way too early for both fighters who can earn even more money by fighting for a more prestigious belt later in the next couple of years.

Frank Warren put down a Wednesday deadline down for this fight to be made...I can't see any news for or against this fight at the moment. Or was it more a guideline than a deadline?

Haye has put their counter offer which means they are calling his bluff. This fight should not happen yet for the sake of both fighters and I hope the ego of Warren does not mean he accepts.

I don't think a loss to either one would be career ending. Although a win would be huge for their own careers. This fight may not have as much meaning a few years down the line... We all want that Mosley Dela Hoya type match up but IMHO I think now is the right time to get it on...?

To be honest its a pick em fight , I have just witnessed the joke stoppage in Degale's last fight , Groves would have more than a fair chance against Degale.

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To be honest its a pick em fight , I have just witnessed the joke stoppage in Degale's last fight , Groves would have more than a fair chance against Degale.

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Without a doubt mate, I have changed my mind so many times since they become pro, hard one to call just like there fight in the am's.

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I don't think a loss to either one would be career ending. Although a win would be huge for their own careers. This fight may not have as much meaning a few years down the line... We all want that Mosley Dela Hoya type match up but IMHO I think now is the right time to get it on...?

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Exactly. Chances are one or both will lose sooner rather than later. Lets have the fight now and then have it again in a few years time when they are world-class.

All this waiting bollocks never works out - Hatton-Witter, all the Brit light-middles in the late 90s, loads of great match-ups that didn't happen :rolleyes:

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I don't think a loss to either one would be career ending. Although a win would be huge for their own careers. This fight may not have as much meaning a few years down the line... We all want that Mosley Dela Hoya type match up but IMHO I think now is the right time to get it on...?

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Exactly. Chances are one or both will lose sooner rather than later. Lets have the fight now and then have it again in a few years time when they are world-class.

All this waiting bollocks never works out - Hatton-Witter, all the Brit light-middles in the late 90s, loads of great match-ups that didn't happen :rolleyes:

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Yet Benn v Eubanks v Watson were for "world" titles and got paid big money for them which was worth it.

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I don't think a loss to either one would be career ending. Although a win would be huge for their own careers. This fight may not have as much meaning a few years down the line... We all want that Mosley Dela Hoya type match up but IMHO I think now is the right time to get it on...?

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Exactly. Chances are one or both will lose sooner rather than later. Lets have the fight now and then have it again in a few years time when they are world-class.

All this waiting bollocks never works out - Hatton-Witter, all the Brit light-middles in the late 90s, loads of great match-ups that didn't happen :rolleyes:

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Yet Benn v Eubanks v Watson were for "world" titles and got paid big money for them which was worth it.

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Benn-Watson fought for the Commonwealth title, the same title Groves-DeGale can fight for now. Obviously it didn't stop either guy from becoming world-class. Bloody good fight too ;)

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I don't think a loss to either one would be career ending. Although a win would be huge for their own careers. This fight may not have as much meaning a few years down the line... We all want that Mosley Dela Hoya type match up but IMHO I think now is the right time to get it on...?

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Exactly. Chances are one or both will lose sooner rather than later. Lets have the fight now and then have it again in a few years time when they are world-class.

All this waiting bollocks never works out - Hatton-Witter, all the Brit light-middles in the late 90s, loads of great match-ups that didn't happen :rolleyes:

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Yet Benn v Eubanks v Watson were for "world" titles and got paid big money for them which was worth it.

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Benn-Watson fought for the Commonwealth title, the same title Groves-DeGale can fight for now. Obviously it didn't stop either guy from becoming world-class. Bloody good fight too ;)

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They could have been fighting for a world title later, so you could be right.