Malignaggi vs Morales

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10-14-2010, 03:09 AM
:::PSL:::

Malignaggi vs Morales

Paulie Malignaggi Wants Erik Morales on Dec. 18

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Former IBF junior welterweight (140 pounds) champion, Paulie Malignaggi, of Brooklyn, in a report by BoxingScene.com, confirmed that he is being targeted for the Golden Boy Promotions, Dec. 18 under card of the main event featuring WBC light heavyweight (175 pounds) champion Jean Pascal of Canada against 45-year-old ex-titlist, Bernard Hopkins at the Pepsi Coliseum in Quebec.

Nicknamed "The Magic Man," Malignaggi (27-4, five knockouts) is coming off of May's 11th-round knockout loss to England's WBA junior welterweight champion, Amir Khan (23-1, 17 KOs) at Madison Square Garden's WaMu Theatre.

"That's what we're going to do. I'll be fighting on December 18th. I don't know yet if they're going to show the fight on TV," said Malignaggi, who will compete as a welterweight (147 pounds). "We're going to fight in December, and I hope to get something big in early 2011."

Also expected to be on the card is former three-time world champion, Erik Morales (50-6, 35 KOs), of Tijuana, Mex., who scored three knockdowns in last month's welterweight sixth-round knockout of Scottland's Willie Limond fought at a catch weight of 143 pounds.

The victory was the second straight for Morales, who turned 34 on Sept. 1 and who is the last man to beat Manny Pacquiao.

In March, Morales scored a 12-round, unanimous decision over Jose "Jicaras" Alfaro (23-6, 20 KOs) in Monterrey, Nuevo, Leon, Mex., ending a 31-month absence from the ring and a four-match losing streak that was part of five losses in his last six fights.

"When I heard Erik Morales was going to be on the show, I asked about fighting him, but they told me he wasn't fighting in Canada, that his fight would be in Mexico. I don't know who I'm fighting yet," said Malignaggi of the show's split-feed status that allows Morales to fight at another location, yet still be televised on the same show.

"I'm real excited about boxing again, and about everything that's going on in my life. I have a lot of things going on outside of boxing," said Malignaggi. "I can't wait to get into the ring in December. I hope to have something big in early 2011. I'm very happy that I'm with a promoter like Golden Boy. I want all of my fans in Quebec to come to the show."
10-14-2010, 03:13 AM
:::PSL:::

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

Hopefully it happens.
10-14-2010, 04:02 AM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

hopefully it doesn't happen, hopefully Morales and Barrera both give up their feeble quest to one up the other and retire, i wouldn't be shocked that Malignaggi beat him if they ended up fighting each other
10-14-2010, 04:58 AM
Gandalf

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

I think it's a fair fight. A faded ATG against Malignaggi who isn't quite amongst the elite.

The styles would mesh in a curious kind of way. I wouldn't mind seeing it.
10-14-2010, 06:37 AM
No Contest

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

hopefully it doesn't happen, hopefully Morales and Barrera both give up their feeble quest to one up the other and retire, i wouldn't be shocked that Malignaggi beat him if they ended up fighting each other

What a douchebag thing to say, how could you root against these legends? F you. I would love it if Barrera or Morales were to somehow pull it off, and become the first 4 division mexican champion.
10-14-2010, 12:50 PM
ono

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

hopefully it doesn't happen, hopefully Morales and Barrera both give up their feeble quest to one up the other and retire, i wouldn't be shocked that Malignaggi beat him if they ended up fighting each other

What a douchebag thing to say, how could you root against these legends? F you. I would love it if Barrera or Morales were to somehow pull it off, and become the first 4 division mexican champion.

I don't think he is rooting against Morales to be honest...
10-14-2010, 01:44 PM
SweetPea

Morales is completely shot. I think Paulie would box circles around him at this point.
10-14-2010, 01:47 PM
TheMacMagician

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

As crazy as it may sound, I'd say Morales is shot enough and far enough out of his weight class for Malignaggi to have a chance of a knockout. Ha. That would be very sad to see.
10-14-2010, 01:47 PM
Jimanuel Boogustus

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

Personally, I'd rather see Morales give Limond a rematch.

He still needs the target practice.
10-14-2010, 05:15 PM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

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Originally Posted by No Contest

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

hopefully it doesn't happen, hopefully Morales and Barrera both give up their feeble quest to one up the other and retire, i wouldn't be shocked that Malignaggi beat him if they ended up fighting each other

What a douchebag thing to say, how could you root against these legends? F you. I would love it if Barrera or Morales were to somehow pull it off, and become the first 4 division mexican champion.

how am i being a douchebag? i'd rather both guys retire and enjoy the rest of their lives in good health than to fight ANY of the current champs and risk permanent damage, if anything you're just another blood thirsty selfish "fan" who doesn't give a shit about their well being, i don't wanna see either guy end up like McClellan or like Ali
10-14-2010, 05:49 PM
ross

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

I think the only thing Malignagi has at this point over Morales is his age.

Ricky Hatton outboxed him:rolleyes:

Hes only half an inch taller than Morales and has never been a big welter, usually coming in well under the limit. Hes not a puncher either.

It would look similar to the Limond Match. Alot of movement from Malignagi and then him slowing down as Morales gets in to it.

Limmond hits harder than Malignagi as well. He put Khan on his ass, Paulie couldnt manage that;D
10-14-2010, 05:59 PM
skel1983

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

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I think the only thing Malignagi has at this point over Morales is his age.

Ricky Hatton outboxed him:rolleyes:

Hes only half an inch taller than Morales and has never been a big welter, usually coming in well under the limit. Hes not a puncher either.

It would look similar to the Limond Match. Alot of movement from Malignagi and then him slowing down as Morales gets in to it.

Limmond hits harder than Malignagi as well. He put Khan on his ass, Paulie couldnt manage that;D

He has never been a welter full stop.

Limond doesn't take a punch like Paulie body or head, Morales won't stop Paulie no chance.
10-14-2010, 11:41 PM
No Contest

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by No Contest

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

hopefully it doesn't happen, hopefully Morales and Barrera both give up their feeble quest to one up the other and retire, i wouldn't be shocked that Malignaggi beat him if they ended up fighting each other

What a douchebag thing to say, how could you root against these legends? F you. I would love it if Barrera or Morales were to somehow pull it off, and become the first 4 division mexican champion.

how am i being a douchebag? i'd rather both guys retire and enjoy the rest of their lives in good health than to fight ANY of the current champs and risk permanent damage, if anything you're just another blood thirsty selfish "fan" who doesn't give a shit about their well being, i don't wanna see either guy end up like McClellan or like Ali

Morales and Barrera are far from being punchy, Barrera is a freaking host on sports shows all the time and talks fine. They want to go down in history and be assured of HOF status(which they both make IMO)and to be the first. Why, if its what they want am I bloodthirsty? I want to see them achieve their dreams, so you can go screw yourself saying I don't care about them.
10-15-2010, 12:42 AM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

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Originally Posted by No Contest

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Originally Posted by No Contest

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

hopefully it doesn't happen, hopefully Morales and Barrera both give up their feeble quest to one up the other and retire, i wouldn't be shocked that Malignaggi beat him if they ended up fighting each other

What a douchebag thing to say, how could you root against these legends? F you. I would love it if Barrera or Morales were to somehow pull it off, and become the first 4 division mexican champion.

how am i being a douchebag? i'd rather both guys retire and enjoy the rest of their lives in good health than to fight ANY of the current champs and risk permanent damage, if anything you're just another blood thirsty selfish "fan" who doesn't give a shit about their well being, i don't wanna see either guy end up like McClellan or like Ali

Morales and Barrera are far from being punchy, Barrera is a freaking host on sports shows all the time and talks fine. They want to go down in history and be assured of HOF status(which they both make IMO)and to be the first. Why, if its what they want am I bloodthirsty? I want to see them achieve their dreams, so you can go screw yourself saying I don't care about them.

McClellan was far from being punch when he stepped in against Benn, same goes for Ali against Holmes or Berbick, it only takes one fight to permanently fuck up a fighter for life, Morales and Barrera ARE NO WHERE CLOSE TO WHERE THEY USED TO BE, and no way in hell are they going to beat the likes of Khan, Bradley, Alexander, or any top fighter at 140, much less at 147, both guys looked noticeably smaller at 135, so it's just a ticking time bomb until they step up against someone at 147 or even 140 who could badly hurt either guy, and seeing how neither one is known from backing down during a fight it would make it just that much worse, i'd be ecstatic if Morales was able to capture a title in his 4th weight class (something he already did before getting screwed against David Diaz), but i wouldn't ant it to come at the expense of their health
10-15-2010, 02:43 AM
No Contest

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

Ok, maybe I misread, I was under the impression you wanted to see them lose. Using McClellan isnt helping your arguement, if thats the case no one should box because they might get brain damage. Ali on the other hand was already slurring and mumbling before he retired for the first time. He went on to fight too long, thats for sure. I dont think they are at their best forms either but TBH Khan and Maidana are winnable fights. Khan's chin is questionable, and Maidana cant box very well.
10-15-2010, 02:55 AM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

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Originally Posted by No Contest

Ok, maybe I misread, I was under the impression you wanted to see them lose. Using McClellan isnt helping your arguement, if thats the case no one should box because they might get brain damage. Ali on the other hand was already slurring and mumbling before he retired for the first time. He went on to fight too long, thats for sure. I dont think they are at their best forms either but TBH Khan and Maidana are winnable fights. Khan's chin is questionable, and Maidana cant box very well.

i'm not saying that i would want them to lose, it would be awesome if either guy (Morales' especially) was able to come back and win a title and set a record and further enhance an already HOF worthy career, just like i stated the risk isn't worth the reward, they already had incredible careers, both are ATG worthy fighters, they should just enjoy their retirement
10-15-2010, 03:44 AM
:::PSL:::

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

Hmm.. that's weird. Why it's not letting me check who voted who? Is the poll suppose to be anonymous now?

One guy actually voted Paulie by KO. ;D
10-15-2010, 08:48 AM
zhubin

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

Having watched Morales fight recently, I don't see how anyone can say he is not a shot fighter. Barrera, while not as shot, is no where near the fighter he once was either. Both are legends with huge hearts...but both of them are also a reminder of how hard it is for once great fighters to step away when they no longer have any business fighting.
10-15-2010, 10:11 AM
ross

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

I agree Morales may be lacking in power at the higher weight but he is still a clever strong fighter. The shots the body against Limmond would have stopped Malignaggi and a few other names at welter too.

All Morales needs is another sharpening up fight and hes ready. It took him a few rounds to get in to the Limmond fight, where he was facing someone who was using alot of movement. I believe the next fight his sharpness is there much earlier in the fight. Hes building up some momentum.

In fact, hes looking to face Jorge Barrios at 138lb in December then a lightweight title fight with Marquez next year;D

Erik Morales vs Jorge Barrios For December 18 in Mexico? - Boxing News
10-15-2010, 02:17 PM
TheMacMagician

Re: Malignaggi vs Morales

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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

Hmm.. that's weird. Why it's not letting me check who voted who? Is the poll suppose to be anonymous now?

One guy actually voted Paulie by KO. ;D

The guy who voted Paulie KO was me. Is it really that implausible?. Do you forget the consumate ease with which Pac totally destroyed Morales in their last bout. Who has morales fought since that would remotely suggest that he can operate at a decent level, and a decent level above his weight class. A loss to the pedestrian David Diaz, A Welterweight points win against Jose Alfaro who was pretty much a career Lightweight and then a stoppage win at light Welter against an at best UK domestic level Willie Limond who is also a Lightweight.

Morales is completely shot for me, and yes, I believe that Paulie could have him in trouble when you add the shot nature of Morales and the fact he is punching a little above his weight class against Paulie, who still has good movement and timing.....