Ok so his fight was super boring and he ran like hell but, what does everyone think about him after being semi tested as a pro?
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Ok so his fight was super boring and he ran like hell but, what does everyone think about him after being semi tested as a pro?
He is super boring and runs like hell:confused:
He's got talent, no doubt. But his corner sucks. He shouldn't have left Freddie Roach.
Needs to put things together. Stop buying into mega hype and just work.
was there a real reason why he left Roach?Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
I know through a friend of mine that Rigo was skipping training when at wildcard and wouldn't get out of bed for early morning runs. Don't know how far that went but, I believe he probably needs to be beaten of his arrogance. Maybe he lost a luittle of that on saturday night when he was knocked down, although not a bad knockdown at all.....
Hate the guy for nearly making me fall asleep and miss the main even.
Another safety first boxer whose career won't go farther than his talent was suppose to be.
(IMO) Doesn't even deserve an undercard status. I'll leave this bit with the best description I've read so far of his boxing... his style is a guaranteed cure for insomnia!
or the fewest fights on the p4p list ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
He feel Roach was taking him for granted. Not giving him enough attention (something like that).Quote:
Originally Posted by grammwas there a real reason why he left Roach?Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
O ok thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::He feel Roach was taking him for granted. Not giving him enough attention (something like that).Quote:
Originally Posted by grammwas there a real reason why he left Roach?Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
With all the natural talent this guy has, he is going to need to step it up and engage more to make it anywhere near the pinnacle in the sport. I was embarrassed telling my fellow team members "you guys have to watch this dude..." and then one by one faces fell into their pizza as the rounds went on.
This isn't the amateurs any more where outscoring pts is what it's about. People pay good money to see exciting fights. And that was about as far from exciting as I've ever seen. :drool:
The guy has had seven pro fights. I understand that he has a wealth of experience in the ams but we should be realistic (Rigondeaux included). This is a whole other ball game. Plus he is already fighting guys with a LOT of pro experience.
Plus he hasn't (or even doesn't) have the luxury that a young bodied pro gets of boiling down to unbelievably overmatched proportions so that he may just beat on a bunch of tomato cans.
This guy is going down a road that young fighters struggle with. Give him some credit while he deserves it because IMO he ain't gonna last that long.
What happened might be the perfect non-damageable situation that might kick up his will to step up the plate and to train as the champion that he should be.
It is somewhat harmful to boxing when having "newbies" watch "boring" fights.... cause the danger is that, they'd be reluctant participants the next time around, or worse, there might not even be... one. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
Well, seeing Rigondeaux' name sure mislead me into thinking that this time, there is no way that the undercards would do this. How wrong was I... Rigondeaux vs the skinny dude caused me to re-read the daily paper!
The Jones VS Karas-Soto provided somewhat OK action. But still, its not saying much when you find a few of the "casual enthusiasts"/guests, choose texting a better choice to spend precious few minutes than watching those damned undercards. And for some long spells too.
Good thing that the main card compensated enough for the excitement factor that invited folks over for fight night pledged support for a thereafter... a repeat.
The intention is to promote the sport and surely didn't want to burn the "yet-fickle-minded newbies" to go over the side that causes the decline in viewership of the sport.
Rigondeaux...better sort it out now, (IMO) there is real danger in HBO PPV pulling the plug on you, ala Clottey.
Totally agree with this, Clottey has always been a low volume puncher, but at least he had Pac throwing over a hundred punches a round, causing him to clam up. Rigondeaux was facing someone that was barely throwing anything at all, it was more of a game of tag than a boxing match. Rigondeaux should be relegated to ESPN2 undercards, 6 rounds or less.Quote:
Originally Posted by KananKrusIt is somewhat harmful to boxing when having "newbies" watch "boring" fights.... cause the danger is that, they'd be reluctant participants the next time around, or worse, there might not even be... one. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
Well, seeing Rigondeaux' name sure mislead me into thinking that this time, there is no way that the undercards would do this. How wrong was I... Rigondeaux vs the skinny dude caused me to re-read the daily paper!
The Jones VS Karas-Soto provided somewhat OK action. But still, its not saying much when you find a few of the "casual enthusiasts"/guests, choose texting a better choice to spend precious few minutes than watching those damned undercards. And for some long spells too.
Good thing that the main card compensated enough for the excitement factor that invited folks over for fight night pledged support for a thereafter... a repeat.
The intention is to promote the sport and surely didn't want to burn the "yet-fickle-minded newbies" to go over the side that causes the decline in viewership of the sport.
Rigondeaux...better sort it out now, (IMO) there is real danger in HBO PPV pulling the plug on you, ala Clottey.
I think they could have done a whole lot better in finding him some opposition. I don't know why people things that Cordoba was just "an opponent."
Cordoba has proven himself in ways many fighters cannot fight. For one, because he is a tall, lanky fighter with a good jab I am sure he has had trouble picking his fights throughout his career. Rigon is anything but getting the red carpet rolled out for him. In a way I think this could have been a huge step for Cordoba who was in a FOTY candide last year with Dunne.
I hate to say it but Rigon was taking all the chances in that fight early, and when he laid back after the knockdown with many rounds to go, I think it was the right thing to do... for maybe a round/round and a half TOPPS. Fortunately Cordoba pressed on the gas with Rigon wanted a brake, but it still wasn't enough to make it a scrap. Rigon had already hurt him to the body, so he was just taking his time toying with him and picking up his "W"
Rigon will be a LOT braver in fight Vs a orthodox fighter with a little less height advantage. Don't jump off his boat right yet, anyway.
Well I guess all that talk about having the least fights to be on most people's p4p list can rest now. There's a good chance he might not even be the champ of the division much less p4p great as someone here predicted.
He definitely has to learn how to lead, but even when he was moving away from Cordoba, Ricardo didn't want to fight at all. He wasn't just walking forward and not throwing anything. Rigondeaux was waiting for him to throw punches, and he didn't, this lead to a boring fight. I think the it was ridiculous somebody scored the fight for Cordoba, he was clearly outboxed in the fight, and it should have been a wide decision for Rigondeaux.
If people watch Rigondeaux in the amateurs he likes to use a lot of movement around the ring and wait for guys to make mistakes, but he needs an opponent who isn't afraid to throw punches in the face of danger, I think Cordoba realized he was badly overmatched in the speed department and he was trying to get inside, and that made for a boring fight. But Guillermo is to blame for not stepping up the pace, if the guy doesn't want to fight then you have to make them fight.
That's the big issue for me, he had 12 rounds to figure that out. And he got caught walking into a jab. Clearly he doesn't understand the difference between the ams and the pros.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Obviously he is a lot better than Cordoba, but Castillo did something very similar to Floyd Mayweather when they fought, he almost threw no punches coming it, it really throws off counter punchers, and Floyd had to adapt his style after facing Jose, and he really had to improve his inside fighting because Castillo did let him engage in a fight on the outside, and at least not the type of fight Floyd wanted, and so he would just walk in, and when he eventually got Floyd on the ropes he threw on the inside, and did better than anyone else. Cordoba was just too overmatched, but I think he was trying to the same thing, he was trying to sort of put pressure and counter punch at the same time against Rigondeaux. Clearly though Rigondeaux has so much speed and skill, I thought at times he looked faster than Pacquiao ever did that night, but I thought Mike Jones looked exceptionally quick as well. It's too bad he punched himself out.
not worth commenting yet, he needs more fights but sadly the motherfwcker might already be past his prime ;D
He's spoiled