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Assuming Manny and Floyd aren't in the running, who does Martinez fight next? What do you think HBO would pay the most for? I'm not really sure. Pirog - I'm not even sure Pirog is ready for that challenging of a fight. Sturm isn't going to fight him. Angulo doesn't have a visa and if he turned down Dzinziruk, he won't get in there with Martinez. No way Arum puts Cotto in there with him unless he is ready to sacrifice him. Margarito needs time to heal. Who else is there?
In October, the WBC appointed interim middleweight champion Sebsatian Zbik the official mandatory challenger and ruled that Zbik must get his long waited shot at the full title by March 2011. With Sergio Martinez’ big win over Paul Williams, Zbik now knows who he will have to face. “The end rather surprised me,” said Zbik. “I was leaning toward Williams. Martinez comes into the ring in incredible condition. He has won every 2nd fight of his career early. In our fight I will have to go through the fire.”
source: fightnews.com
I think a scrap vs Pirog would be nice
I think Pirog is still a little too green for Martinez. Give him a couple of fight's and that will be a dousy. Zbik does have thirty fight's one would assume he's ready or how about JCC Jr. for that matter? A Pavlik rematch in A.C. would work as well.
Thats the one they are trying to make. Both guys come to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Pirog got great exposure though from exposing Golden Boys next bit of talent, so I imagine it would be quite an easy sell to the public in the US.
I mean who else is there besides Pirog? Is there anyone? Maybe if Dzinziruk or one of the other champs from 154 stepped up in weight.
I think Pirog is quite possible, the guy is cheap it seems he got paid about 30k for the fight with Jacobs, I think this fight is to early for Pirog he needs to fight one or two solid fighters. Macklin v Pirog could be fun as long as it lasted.
He should either move down to Jr Middleweight, and fight the likes of Miguel Cotto. Or move up and fight someone like Lucian Bute ETC. Because there's virtually no one at Middleweight except for a few upcoming prospects.
Which Sergio Martinez won't want to bother with, because he's 35 and he hasn't got anytime to waste. Especially because of what kind of fighter he is a slick fighter.
I can see a trilogy with Williams making sense in the future, but probably not his next fight. Do you think Arum would put Cotto or Margarito in with him now? I think he'd toy with either of them.
How about Shane if Shane doesn't fight Manny?
I bet he does fight Bute or Ward in the future, but not in his next fight. I'm guessing Pirog is the move. That would be a fun night of boxing.
Johnny, I don't feel Zbik is in Sergio's class, but maybe at this point fulfilling his mandatory obligations is best while he waits to see how the Floyd/Shane/Manny/Berto situation comes out.
I don't think Sergio Martinez has alot left at the top, because of the kind of style he has. So he must get the big fights now, a fight with Miguel Cotto at 154 would be a great fight for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
And if he can make 168 comfortably which i believe he could, as i said a fight with Lucian Bute would be great aswell.
Im no expert on Dmitry Pirog but isn't he a bit green at the moment ? let him make more of a name for himself first. He shouldn't be rushed in with Sergio Martinez.
#1 I don't think Martinez would "toy" with Cotto. Miguel might not be what he once was be he's a hard ask for anyone (I'm hoping JC Jr. finds out the hard way)
#2 For those of you who think Pirog is too green imagine if Jacobs had won that fight by KO, Golden Boy would be demanding a title shot right away!
"Toy" may be too strong of a word, but I feel like we won't see Cotto in a match against an opponent like Martinez (or Williams) ever again. He'll face Top Rank fighters and he'll be favored going into the fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
A rematch with Margarito would be almost as righteous as a Cotto.Margarito rematch. As far as meeting Cotto goes, he and his promoter are saying he can't get down to 154 anymore. It makes sense, but I don't how much of that is positioning. Aside from the obvious money makes, I think the next natural choice is JCC jr. if he gets by Gomez.
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
I do think Pirog is too green. True Jacobs would want a title shot right away if he had won but he would also have gotten KTFO in the next fight.We seen Pirog only once so far against Jacobs and very few seen his performance against Jantuah. I would say let him build a bit more of a name for himself get another decent to good fight and maybe check his options then. My personal opinion is he won't be ready for a championship fight for a few more fight's.
JCC seems to be the best choice as far as popularity. Personnaly i think that it is miss-match but anyways. Would a fight with Pirog be bigger that a fight with Bute in the u.s ?
How about Fernando Guerrero ?
Or...
Ricardo Mayorga ?
Mayorga was set to fight Sturm, until it the commission dismisssed the bout because Mayorga has never fought at MW and didn't deserve to be getting a title shot lol
Too bad Ike Quartey and Winky Wright aren't still hanging around the middleweight division like they were a few years ago.
Mayorga couldn't make 160 if his life depended on it.
seriously, the only competitive fight for martinez at middleweight would be pirog. but unfortunately, because pirog isn't a big name yet and martinez wouldn't be able to make alot of money fighting him, this fight probably won't happen. martinez is 35 years old and i would think he only wants be fights with big paydays.
i mean, the middleweight is a very weak division. i do think martinez would be too small at super middleweight unless he fought arthur abraham.
I love how everyone is thinking Martinez will just chase people around at different weights when HE is the Champ. Why doesn't some young punk try to call his a$$ out and move into his realm and fight him? You guys slag him off before.. "Oh martinez is ONLY a slick fighter.. Martinez only beats guys who come forward" I think If Bute wants to fight him he can meet him in the middle. Pavlik doesn't want the rematch.. Nobodys got ballz anymore. I hate boxing.
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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Never said he is...he is just a possible next opponent and he is definitely not in Martinez's class...the most important thing is that nobody wants a low profile opponent such as Zbik for Martinez now...personally I would like Sturm vs Martinez,but I guess the interest for such a fight wouldn't be big enough...
Rafael agrees with you regarding Zbik here Fishing for Sergio Martinez's next fight - ESPNQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAssQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Never said he is...he is just a possible next opponent and he is definitely not in Martinez's class...the most important thing is that nobody wants a low profile opponent such as Zbik for Martinez now...personally I would like Sturm vs Martinez,but I guess the interest for such a fight wouldn't be big enough...
Winky's still lurking in the shadows ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
WINKY WRIGHT WANTS SHOT AT SERGIO MARTINEZ
For an interetsing fight he could fight
Winky Wright
Andy Lee
Felix Strurm
or for a money make
JCC Jr. or John Duddy
Micas
Where is Angulo?, you should include him i guess...should be here (154-160 lbr) .