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Does anyone think Bika's wild winging dirty style could get "lucky?" Jesus has been hurt in the past, he enjoys letting his fists go, which gives a wild swinger a chance, and Bika is granite tough.
The bookies have it as a virtual mismatch. You can back Bika for the KO at around 8/1.
Who's with me and Sakio?
anything can happen when fighting a wild swinger like sakio bika but this time he's fighting a very clever, defensive fighter in andre ward. i'd agree that bika is as solid an opponent as they come but i believe ward will be too slick for him and cruise to a comfortable decision victory.
Why are you referring to Andre Ward as "Jesus" ? Because he calls himself "Son of God" and is religious ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I would assume so.
Anyway I'm pullin for BIka to score the upset. He damn sure isn't going to outbox Ward, but if he lands a big overhand right then he could hurt Ward badly and finish him.
Ward does like a rough fight himself, so I expect it to be a dirty fight with headbutts, hitting on the break, rough in close fighting etc.
That works in Bika's favor.
Bika has the style to make it rough for anybody, ask to Calzaghe or Bute. I would still give the edge to Ward but I could imagine him winning in a fight where he doesn't look that good due to Bika's style.
I seem to remember Bute having a much easier time with Bika than Calzaghe did. Seemed like Bika hardly won a round. I could be wroing tho.
This fight isn't part of the Super Six is it? If so, what happens if Bika does win? He gets the belt and Ward advances into the semi finals anyway? This could make the tournament even more disappointing if the leader gets beat in a fight outside the tournament then has to "re-enter" at the semi final stage
Regardless of what happens Ward, Abraham, Froch, and Johnson are into the semi-finals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cressa121
I think this is too much of an obvious pick for an upset and therefore it won't happen. Ward 120-108.
I think Ward proved in the Green fight that he can walk a guy into the ropes and go to work. He can deifinitely fight a guy in close quarters, and i expect the that in this fight. Ward by UD
Bika I really don't like just as he's such an over the top dirty fighter. I say Ward is in for a tough night. Ward plays with the head, Bika will do it worse. As much as I despise the guy, especially after his disgraceful punch on Mendy when he was down, he doesn't deserve this fight at all, he is a beast and is absolutely teak tough. Ward gets careless, Bika can certainly punch and Ward will be seeing stars. I absolutely don't think that Ward has the power to put Bika off at all, so needs to be ready to keep him on the end of the jab all night. Beating Green the way he did means nothing against Bika, Green is not in a million years as rough and tough as Bika.
....ward will beat the shit out of bika. The crap ward does is frustrating, and bika is exactly the type to be frustrated by everything ward does then on top of that ward will be punching him too. I wouldn't be surprised if they dq bika in the locker room.
Some good points here boys.
Whoever lands the best headbut could well determine the winner.
Lol it'll be like a night out in Glasgow ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by onoLol it'll be like a night out in Glasgow ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Bika is P4P at goolie shots though, I reckon that could swing it for him
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Originally Posted by Fenster;DQuote:
Originally Posted by onoLol it'll be like a night out in Glasgow ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Bika is P4P at goolie shots though, I reckon that could swing it for him
Me too, only I'll go as far to say Ward will stop him. Look at it this way, Dirrell backed out of fighting him (whether due to serious health issues or made up ones), Ward is the only fighter in the Super Six that hasn't lost, and Sakio Bika although good, durable, and having fought (and done well) vs many top contenders....he hasn't been in the ring with a quality opponent in quite some time. I know Ward doesn't have significant 1 punch power, but perhaps he hurts him and flurries to finish him off.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
The upset just seems too predictible IMO and I figure something shocking will happen that will make it seem like Dirrell made the wise choice by not fighting Ward
It's possible Ward stops him, but I highly doubt it. Ward couldn't stop Miranda or Green after dominating them for 12 rounds each. I see this fight as going the same way. Ward using angles, holding, and fighting on the inside to dominate to a decision. Bika will make Ward work harder than Green though.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongMe too, only I'll go as far to say Ward will stop him. Look at it this way, Dirrell backed out of fighting him (whether due to serious health issues or made up ones), Ward is the only fighter in the Super Six that hasn't lost, and Sakio Bika although good, durable, and having fought (and done well) vs many top contenders....he hasn't been in the ring with a quality opponent in quite some time. I know Ward doesn't have significant 1 punch power, but perhaps he hurts him and flurries to finish him off.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
The upset just seems too predictible IMO and I figure something shocking will happen that will make it seem like Dirrell made the wise choice by not fighting Ward
The reason why Fenster may have a point with the upset call in my eyes is that Bika has a solid chin and may be able to walk through Ward's punches. I just don't see someone as talented as Ward losing to someone as limited as Bika. It would be a big-time upset.
I think Bika gets the ugly knockout on Ward... or gets disqualied
This could turn out to be the ugliest fight of the year. I don't really care who wins, but would like Bika to win as Ward's style repulses me more. Bika is an angel compared to the 'ram of god' with all his butting and holding. It would be quite amusing to see Ward taste a little of what he gave to Kessler. Ward obviously has the advantages, but all it takes is a good old butt to turn things around.
if jesus fights like he did against green there is a very good chance of an upset
I don't see this remotely? By reading this thread you would think that Ward is a Dirrell type fighter or something, he doesn't strike me as being to vulnerable at all these days? Sure he will fight dirty, but he's damn good at it, and has a lot of infighting skills. The fact that Bika is crude and scrappy will create all the more openings for Ward to do actual work inside and showcase his skills. Bika put up a decent effort in his fights against Calzaghe and Bute, but that's because they wanted distance to work,Bika got by on pressing forward and being in their chest all night, yet still took a clear beating in both fights. Ward will turn him etc. and outpunch him easily in the pocket rather than look to keep space imo.