Pacquiao-Margarito does 1.15 million PPV buys

Manny Pacquiao generates another 1 million PPV buys - ESPN

Reported by Fat Dan and confirmed by HBO.

So much for boycott then.

I really thought it was only gonna do 800-900k.

Damn. This could mean Margo will get his $4M bonus. :mad:

Not bad.

Anybody got a list of the most PPV buys in the last 5 years?

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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

So much for boycott then.

I really thought it was only gonna do 800-900k.

Damn. This could mean Margo will get his $4M bonus. :mad:

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I am quite bummed as well on that one... Seems like Uncle Bobby has a very long fork, long enough to eat with the devil.

I'm glad it did good numbers. My spite for Marg doesn't overwhelm my love for the sport. Bit lower then early estimates, but that is to be expected. More then respectable. Numbers expected to climb a bit too when final tallies in.

this only proves one thing, that without mexican fighters, pacquiao is NOT that big of PPV star his fans try to make him out to be. when he fought joshua clottey, what were the PPV numbers? 7-800,000? a mayweather/margarito PPV event would have reached about 1.5 million or more. facts are facts!

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

this only proves one thing, that without mexican fighters, pacquiao is NOT that big of PPV star his fans try to make him out to be. when he fought joshua clottey, what were the PPV numbers? 7-800,000? a mayweather/margarito PPV event would have reached about 1.5 million or more. facts are facts!

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A speculation on how many numbers Mayweather-Margarito would do is based on facts? Does anyone see the logical fallacy in this?;)

I'm pretty sure Cotto wasn't Mexican when that fight did 1.2 million.

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

this only proves one thing, that without mexican fighters, pacquiao is NOT that big of PPV star his fans try to make him out to be. when he fought joshua clottey, what were the PPV numbers? 7-800,000? a mayweather/margarito PPV event would have reached about 1.5 million or more. facts are facts!

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50,994 attended in Pacquiao-Clottey fight. And only 41,000something attended in Pac-Marg fight.

By your logic, There must be more Ghanian folks in Texas than Mexican huh?

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

this only proves one thing, that without mexican fighters, pacquiao is NOT that big of PPV star his fans try to make him out to be. when he fought joshua clottey, what were the PPV numbers? 7-800,000? a mayweather/margarito PPV event would have reached about 1.5 million or more. facts are facts!

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lol...i knew the pactards would come on in droves like a bunch of ants. the facts are these, mayweather is a bigger PPV star than pacquiao, and you pactards can't seem to handle this fact. and to the pactard who said there were more fans at pacquiao/clottey than pacquiao/margarito. well, let's see here, if you combine the attendance/PPV numbers, pacquiao/margarito dwarfs pacquiao/clottey. simple math. so go ahead pactards, do your little huffing and puffing cause i wrote these comments. somebody has the tell the truth on these boards and it might as well be me because it seems everybody's on board as a pactardo.

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

lol...i knew the pactards would come on in droves like a bunch of ants. the facts are these, mayweather is a bigger PPV star than pacquiao, and you pactards can't seem to handle this fact. and to the pactard who said there were more fans at pacquiao/clottey than pacquiao/margarito. well, let's see here, if you combine the attendance/PPV numbers, pacquiao/margarito dwarfs pacquiao/clottey. simple math. so go ahead pactards, do your little huffing and puffing cause i wrote these comments. somebody has the tell the truth on these boards and it might as well be me because it seems everybody's on board as a pactardo.

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This is why a university education is important kids. You might wind up like this guy.;D

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

lol...i knew the pactards would come on in droves like a bunch of ants. the facts are these, mayweather is a bigger PPV star than pacquiao, and you pactards can't seem to handle this fact. and to the pactard who said there were more fans at pacquiao/clottey than pacquiao/margarito. well, let's see here, if you combine the attendance/PPV numbers, pacquiao/margarito dwarfs pacquiao/clottey. simple math. so go ahead pactards, do your little huffing and puffing cause i wrote these comments. somebody has the tell the truth on these boards and it might as well be me because it seems everybody's on board as a pactardo.

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How can you be sure for certain?

Did you actually went knocking door to door on the night of november 13 and asked what race who purchased the fight?

Why do you always bringing up nationality?

generalbulldog,

look my son, if EVERYBODY on this forum agreed that pacquiao was the GOAT and thinks nobody can touch him, this forum would get pretty boring, don't you think? well, i'm sorry to burst your bubble but although i believe pacquiao has done great things in the ring, there are still many questions about him that need to be answered.

it's good to have opposing views. it's the democratic way in that people are different and might have different views than others. say what you will about bernard hopkins, but he's just saying the truth that pacquiao continues to avoid fast, young, in their prime fighters. it's not a coincidence that marquez took the anointed one to hell and back. it's not a coincidence that he's been asking for catchweights from bigger fighters!

my thing is this, if you want to play with fire, you'd better be prepared to play by the rules and not come in with some sort of advantage just because your smaller. pacquiao wanted these fights he should have played by the rules. if he couldn't do that, he should have stayed at a lower division.

the truth hurts doesn't it?

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generalbulldog,

look my son, if EVERYBODY on this forum agreed that pacquiao was the GOAT and thinks nobody can touch him, this forum would get pretty boring, don't you think? well, i'm sorry to burst your bubble but although i believe pacquiao has done great things in the ring, there are still many questions about him that need to be answered.

it's good to have opposing views. it's the democratic way in that people are different and might have different views than others. say what you will about bernard hopkins, but he's just saying the truth that pacquiao continues to avoid fast, young, in their prime fighters. it's not a coincidence that marquez took the anointed one to hell and back. it's not a coincidence that he's been asking for catchweights from bigger fighters!

my thing is this, if you want to play with fire, you'd better be prepared to play by the rules and not come in with some sort of advantage just because your smaller. pacquiao wanted these fights he should have played by the rules. if he couldn't do that, he should have stayed at a lower division.

the truth hurts doesn't it?

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generalbulldog,

look my son, if EVERYBODY on this forum agreed that pacquiao was the GOAT and thinks nobody can touch him, this forum would get pretty boring, don't you think? well, i'm sorry to burst your bubble but although i believe pacquiao has done great things in the ring, there are still many questions about him that need to be answered.

it's good to have opposing views. it's the democratic way in that people are different and might have different views than others. say what you will about bernard hopkins, but he's just saying the truth that pacquiao continues to avoid fast, young, in their prime fighters. it's not a coincidence that marquez took the anointed one to hell and back. it's not a coincidence that he's been asking for catchweights from bigger fighters!

my thing is this, if you want to play with fire, you'd better be prepared to play by the rules and not come in with some sort of advantage just because your smaller. pacquiao wanted these fights he should have played by the rules. if he couldn't do that, he should have stayed at a lower division.

the truth hurts doesn't it?

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Pacquiao has been trying to make the fight with the slickest and fastest fighter out there for the past year, until negotiations broke down. It's convenient to forget this by his detractors.

And about catchweight fights who gives a shit about catchweight fights. People have a problem because it's Pacquiao. You sure as hell don't criticize De La Hoya and Chavez doing catchweight fights. I sure wonder why? Ain't that the truth homey.;)

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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

So much for boycott then.

I really thought it was only gonna do 800-900k.

Damn. This could mean Margo will get his $4M bonus. :mad:

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:confused: How do you know the boycott wasn't effective?

generalbulldog,

first of all, i did not know chavez and oscar fought at catchweights. had i known that, i would have disagreed with that and slammed them as well. and by the way, one catchweight is wrong but i guess can be understandable but when there is a pattern like pacquiao's insistance on catchweights, that's when it becomes total bullshit.

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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

So much for boycott then.

I really thought it was only gonna do 800-900k.

Damn. This could mean Margo will get his $4M bonus. :mad:

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:confused: How do you know the boycott wasn't effective?

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Maybe the boycott was effective. But not much.

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

generalbulldog,

look my son, if EVERYBODY on this forum agreed that pacquiao was the GOAT and thinks nobody can touch him, this forum would get pretty boring, don't you think? well, i'm sorry to burst your bubble but although i believe pacquiao has done great things in the ring, there are still many questions about him that need to be answered.

it's good to have opposing views. it's the democratic way in that people are different and might have different views than others. say what you will about bernard hopkins, but he's just saying the truth that pacquiao continues to avoid fast, young, in their prime fighters. it's not a coincidence that marquez took the anointed one to hell and back. it's not a coincidence that he's been asking for catchweights from bigger fighters!

my thing is this, if you want to play with fire, you'd better be prepared to play by the rules and not come in with some sort of advantage just because your smaller. pacquiao wanted these fights he should have played by the rules. if he couldn't do that, he should have stayed at a lower division.

the truth hurts doesn't it?

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What about coming in with some sort of advantage even when they're bigger? This is what Floyd did when he did not meet the weight in his fight with JMM. And I saw in another thread that you even mentioned that fight as one of the astounding achievements of Floyd.

Why did Floyd's name even get mentioned in here? I just want to make sure that you are not a hypocrite and that you did criticize Floyd for doing that. Did you?

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generalbulldog,



And about catchweight fights who gives a shit about catchweight fights. People have a problem because it's Pacquiao. You sure as hell don't criticize De La Hoya and Chavez doing catchweight fights. I sure wonder why? Ain't that the truth homey.;)

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Catch weight fights are fine but when your fighting for the championship of a division there should be no catch weight, if you want to come in lower then the division allows that's fine but don't make the other guy do it also. Pacquiao is the only one I can think of who has fought for championships at catch weights, are there others who demanded lower weights for the title??


Not sure but from your post I do think De la Hoya did that to Hopkins ?? and of course Leonard for the LHW title, any others.??

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generalbulldog,

look my son, if EVERYBODY on this forum agreed that pacquiao was the GOAT and thinks nobody can touch him, this forum would get pretty boring, don't you think? well, i'm sorry to burst your bubble but although i believe pacquiao has done great things in the ring, there are still many questions about him that need to be answered.

it's good to have opposing views. it's the democratic way in that people are different and might have different views than others. say what you will about bernard hopkins, but he's just saying the truth that pacquiao continues to avoid fast, young, in their prime fighters. it's not a coincidence that marquez took the anointed one to hell and back. it's not a coincidence that he's been asking for catchweights from bigger fighters!

my thing is this, if you want to play with fire, you'd better be prepared to play by the rules and not come in with some sort of advantage just because your smaller. pacquiao wanted these fights he should have played by the rules. if he couldn't do that, he should have stayed at a lower division.

the truth hurts doesn't it?

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Criminals don't care about what rules you have because they are not bound by them. And then on the other hand, neither does Superman. Not everything fits into the box.

The fight was a quality fight and was worth the money.

neutral,

the reason why i mentioned floyd's win over marquez is in the easy manner in which he beat him. it was a work of art and that you cannot deny. do i think he's a scumbag by coming in overweight? sure i do. see there? i called him a scumbag like i call pacquiao a scumbag.

what i was most surprised in the way was how easily he beat marquez while pacquiao was lucky to get a gift decision over him.

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neutral,

the reason why i mentioned floyd's win over marquez is in the easy manner in which he beat him. it was a work of art and that you cannot deny. do i think he's a scumbag by coming in overweight? sure i do. see there? i called him a scumbag like i call pacquiao a scumbag.

what i was most surprised in the way was how easily he beat marquez while pacquiao was lucky to get a gift decision over him.

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yet you praise and applaud a cheating fuck like Margarito, i swear double standards are a work of art when it comes to you...

morales,

still crying over cotto's humiliating ass whipping he took from margarito? :eek:

You boys argue about the same shit over and over again. Here's some facts -

Floyd is an outstanding fighter. Fact.
Pac is an outstanding fighter. Fact.
Floyd sells shit loads PPV. Fact.
Pac sells shit loads PPV. Fact.

The end. Fact.

Honestly I don't think it matters much with the color of a person's skin or what not. It's the match up that makes the fight and causes the pay per view sales. I think if it hadn't been for Margarito's dubious past, this fight might have sold only 600,000 buys. Other than seeing a cheating villian beat up this fight really had zero relevance. A fight with Mosley and Pac has zero relevance as we know that Shane is washed up now. Other than a Bradley fight or a third match with JMM who seemed to be unlucky in many eyes to not win one or the other of the two fights they have had already, there really doesn't seem anyone around to truly interest people in a Pac fight to a large measure. Other than Mayweather who seems to just not be interested in a Pac fight.

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You boys argue about the same shit over and over again. Here's some facts -

Floyd is an outstanding fighter. Fact.
Pac is an outstanding fighter. Fact.
Floyd sells shit loads PPV. Fact.
Pac sells shit loads PPV. Fact.

The end. Fact.

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I agree! lol

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neutral,

the reason why i mentioned floyd's win over marquez is in the easy manner in which he beat him. it was a work of art and that you cannot deny. do i think he's a scumbag by coming in overweight? sure i do. see there? i called him a scumbag like i call pacquiao a scumbag.

what i was most surprised in the way was how easily he beat marquez while pacquiao was lucky to get a gift decision over him.

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So where do you rate Chris John? He didn't take the beating from Marquez like Pacquiao did so I would say, it was much easier for him to beat Marquez as well.

Very good numbers, what money did the fighters get for this fight?

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morales,

still crying over cotto's humiliating ass whipping he took from margarito? :eek:

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not at all, just pointing out how much of a joke you are ;D, and the "loss" Cotto had against Margarito was noooowhere as humiliating as Margarito's losses to Mosley and Pacquiao hahahahaha, damn those were borderline attempted murder :) , i'll say it right now Margarito will NEVER win a world title again hahaha must break your tiny little fan boy heart :eek:

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Very good numbers, what money did the fighters get for this fight?

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Pac got a guarantee 15 mil with Margarito a guarantee 3 mil, if I'm not mistaken. With a percentage of the ppv buys that each fighter gets Pac is looking at pocketing another 10 mil, while Margarito could get another 5 mil.

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Very good numbers, what money did the fighters get for this fight?

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Pac got a guarantee 15 mil with Margarito a guarantee 3 mil, if I'm not mistaken. With a percentage of the ppv buys that each fighter gets Pac is looking at pocketing another 10 mil, while Margarito could get another 5 mil.

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:mad::furious2::sd::shakehead:

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Very good numbers, what money did the fighters get for this fight?

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Pac got 15M Gurantee plus 10M from PPV = $25M


Marg got 3M gurantee plus 4M from PPV = $7M

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Very good numbers, what money did the fighters get for this fight?

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Pac got a guarantee 15 mil with Margarito a guarantee 3 mil, if I'm not mistaken. With a percentage of the ppv buys that each fighter gets Pac is looking at pocketing another 10 mil, while Margarito could get another 5 mil.

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Yeah i think that's correct :D

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Very good numbers, what money did the fighters get for this fight?

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Pac got a guarantee 15 mil with Margarito a guarantee 3 mil, if I'm not mistaken. With a percentage of the ppv buys that each fighter gets Pac is looking at pocketing another 10 mil, while Margarito could get another 5 mil.

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Yeah i think that's correct :D

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Try it like this:

Assume the given Pac's Guarantee is $15 Mil. and Marga's Guarantee is $3 Mil.

15+3=18 where 18 is 100%: 3/18= 16.67% 15/18= 83.33% ; 16.67+83.33=100

$54.95 * 1.15 Million =~$63 Million / 2 = $31.5 Million, assuming half the revenue is the purse split which goes to the fighters.

Pacquiao = $26.25 Million
Margarito = $ 5.25 Million

This does not include live gate sales. Who knows what that number actually is. Even with 41,000 tickets sold it won't surpass the high prices at the MGM Grand where they do between $16-20 Mil. It will come in at less than $13-16 Mil depending on which seats were actually sold.

I based this on previous PPV fight revenue splits published. If Pacquiao and Margarito have their guarantee's deducted from the revenue split then they are getting a poor deal from the Promoter's by comparison to what Dela Hoya's revenue splits were.

According Fan Johnny's calculation, plus the Clottey fight. Pac already made close to $40M this year.

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

lol...i knew the pactards would come on in droves like a bunch of ants. the facts are these, mayweather is a bigger PPV star than pacquiao, and you pactards can't seem to handle this fact. and to the pactard who said there were more fans at pacquiao/clottey than pacquiao/margarito. well, let's see here, if you combine the attendance/PPV numbers, pacquiao/margarito dwarfs pacquiao/clottey. simple math. so go ahead pactards, do your little huffing and puffing cause i wrote these comments. somebody has the tell the truth on these boards and it might as well be me because it seems everybody's on board as a pactardo.

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Your parents did a real good on you. They should win the Nobel prize.

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

generalbulldog,

look my son, if EVERYBODY on this forum agreed that pacquiao was the GOAT and thinks nobody can touch him, this forum would get pretty boring, don't you think? well, i'm sorry to burst your bubble but although i believe pacquiao has done great things in the ring, there are still many questions about him that need to be answered.

it's good to have opposing views. it's the democratic way in that people are different and might have different views than others. say what you will about bernard hopkins, but he's just saying the truth that pacquiao continues to avoid fast, young, in their prime fighters. it's not a coincidence that marquez took the anointed one to hell and back. it's not a coincidence that he's been asking for catchweights from bigger fighters!

my thing is this, if you want to play with fire, you'd better be prepared to play by the rules and not come in with some sort of advantage just because your smaller. pacquiao wanted these fights he should have played by the rules. if he couldn't do that, he should have stayed at a lower division.

the truth hurts doesn't it?

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If the opponent agreed to the weight, then it his problem, not yours. You make it your problem only when you are bitter

morales,

i'll tell you what's more humiliating, is when fighters take a knee in surrender. in other words, "i give up, don't hurt me anymore". yes, margarito took a good ass whipping but at least he didn't quit. he took an ass whipping like a man unlike cotto and calderon who took knees to avoid getting more "hurt"! and the thing is, both these clowns were the defending champions and to go out like that is cowardice galore!