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Hopkins vs. Pascal Fight Thread
I think Pascal has the all of the tools to beat Hopkins save one and that is creativity, jab jab, jump in with the right, back away and to the right. I think Hopkins should be able to disrupt this rhythm enough to take the win by a fairly wide margin, even in Pascal's backyard. What say you?
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Re: Hopkins vs. Pascal who takes it
I think Pascal will have too much for Hopkins at this stage. I expect a close, and probably rather foul filled, spoiling fight and Pascal will struggle to look good against B Hop.
But I think he will be able to outwork him down the stretch and win a close decision.
I'm sure Hopkins will do a decent enough job negating Pascal's offense to be able to convince himself that he won the fight.
I reckon scores of 116-112, 115-113 and 114-114, so a majority decision for Pascal. Obviously those scores may well see some point deductions also.
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Bilbo
I think Pascal will have too much for Hopkins at this stage. I expect a close, and probably rather foul filled, spoiling fight and Pascal will struggle to look good against B Hop.
But I think he will be able to outwork him down the stretch and win a close decision.
I'm sure Hopkins will do a decent enough job negating Pascal's offense to be able to convince himself that he won the fight.
I reckon scores of 116-112, 115-113 and 114-114, so a majority decision for Pascal. Obviously those scores may well see some point deductions also.
This is why I think Hopkins takes it, he knows ALL the tricks and should be the deciding factor for me. Youth may very well prevail, I just don't think the betting favorite has as many advantages as it may seem.
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As I said in the other thread I'm not picking against Hopkins anymore. Me and my wallet had to learn the hard way a few times :eek:
Hopkins by decision.
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Trying something different.......Hopkins ;D Too cagey,wiley and even now hungry. He can still time a hard right like no one else.
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I think Hopkins will do a number on him... JP wont know what the fuck happened.
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Wow, seems people just aren't underestimating Hopkins anymore. I wish I could find the thread when Pavlik-Hopkins was made and nearly every single person here was against the fight even being made. I expected a reaction similar to that. If Pascal wants Bute, this is a really risky fight. That place will be great, Montreal is a great boxing city and that's all good I'll ever say about Canadians, especially French-Canadians. Yet if Hopkins shuts down the crowd early, it could really quiet that crowd and Pascal would really feel the pressure.
I think Hopkins takes it buuut his legs in the RJJ fight for the first time in his career imo, showed signs of maybe they were becoming a little less fresh as they had previously. He showed more signs of being an old man. Still, a couple of you hit the nail on the head when you said Pascal wasn't creative enough and that Spicoli can time the right better then anybody. I don't think Pascal has much of a jab or at least one that Hopkins can't completely nullify like he's been doing to better jabbers then Pascal for years. Just a bad fight, what are the odds? Maybe a good bet on Hopkins...Pascal a 2/1 favorite.
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amat
Wow, seems people just aren't underestimating Hopkins anymore. I wish I could find the thread when Pavlik-Hopkins was made and nearly every single person here was against the fight even being made. I expected a reaction similar to that. If Pascal wants Bute, this is a really risky fight. That place will be great, Montreal is a great boxing city and that's all good I'll ever say about Canadians, especially French-Canadians. Yet if Hopkins shuts down the crowd early, it could really quiet that crowd and Pascal would really feel the pressure.
I think Hopkins takes it buuut his legs in the RJJ fight for the first time in his career imo, showed signs of maybe they were becoming a little less fresh as they had previously. He showed more signs of being an old man. Still, a couple of you hit the nail on the head when you said Pascal wasn't creative enough and that Spicoli can time the right better then anybody. I don't think Pascal has much of a jab or at least one that Hopkins can't completely nullify like he's been doing to better jabbers then Pascal for years. Just a bad fight, what are the odds? Maybe a good bet on Hopkins...Pascal a 2/1 favorite.
Pascal = -250 = 2/5
Hopkins = +190 = 19/10
Boxing Betting, Boxing Odds, Boxing Lines at Bodog Sportsbook
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If Pascal doesn't win this on points, I will fuck HTH in the ass :cool:
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Pascal by comfortable UD. Hopkins will put up the usual smoke and mirrors but the judges wont be buying it.
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Interested to see how Jean reacts to all the trash talk before the fight,common when you fight an American fighter. I knew Jean as an amateur when i was reffing amateur . A nice guy outside the ring made friends with everyone it seemed. He is a lifelong buddy and sparring mate of Froch. If he wins guarantee all the whining about judging and the ref. So, i hope its not close.
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Originally Posted by
amat
Wow, seems people just aren't underestimating Hopkins anymore. I wish I could find the thread when Pavlik-Hopkins was made and nearly every single person here was against the fight even being made. I expected a reaction similar to that. If Pascal wants Bute, this is a really risky fight. That place will be great, Montreal is a great boxing city and that's all good I'll ever say about Canadians, especially French-Canadians. Yet if Hopkins shuts down the crowd early, it could really quiet that crowd and Pascal would really feel the pressure.
I think Hopkins takes it buuut his legs in the RJJ fight for the first time in his career imo, showed signs of maybe they were becoming a little less fresh as they had previously. He showed more signs of being an old man. Still, a couple of you hit the nail on the head when you said Pascal wasn't creative enough and that Spicoli can time the right better then anybody. I don't think Pascal has much of a jab or at least one that Hopkins can't completely nullify like he's been doing to better jabbers then Pascal for years. Just a bad fight, what are the odds? Maybe a good bet on Hopkins...Pascal a 2/1 favorite.
I was one of those that thought Pavlik would steamroll Hopkins. That was completely wrong though. ;D
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I'll be cheering for Jean Pascal.
B-Hop should just enter the ring dressed like Tutankhamun.
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Cressa121
Old man Hopkins UD
I could see that happening, but I figure it'll be a MD or SD.
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Pascal will win with work rate and youth similar to Taylor/Joe. This would be a major upset if Hopkins pulls this off, even bigger than his victory over Pavlik.
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two to one for Pascal now, that's more of what I expected.
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Pascal can't win. Even if he beats the boring old fart he won't get hardly any credit and if the boring old fart makes it ugly, which is a cert, the score will be close with the boring old fart convincing dozens he was robbed.
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Fenster
Pascal can't win. Even if he beats the boring old fart he won't get hardly any credit and if the boring old fart makes it ugly, which is a cert, the score will be close with the boring old fart convincing dozens he was robbed.
Well for what it's worth I have a coworker dropping $50 for me on Hopkins in Vegas. I'm banking on Hopkins spoiling at least 7 rounds for the win.
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referee: Michael Griffin | judge: Claude Paquette | judge: Daniel Van de Wiele | judge: Steve Morrow
WBC light heavyweight title (supervisor: Jose Sulaiman)
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vacant WBC Diamond light heavyweight title :D
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i think hopkins has finally bitten off too much for his own good. jean pascal is going to beat him handily by decision. hopkins is going to do alot of holding but pascal is too fast and young for the ancient hopkins.
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TigerFan
I said hells to the yeah!
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I wish Assange would turn his attentions to Jose Sulaiman
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Pascal can't win. Even if he beats the boring old fart he won't get hardly any credit and if the boring old fart makes it ugly, which is a cert, the score will be close with the boring old fart convincing dozens he was robbed.
Is that you in your av? ;D
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TigerFan
Going by the last name I'm going to assume that he's already scored the fight 117-111 for Pascal :p.
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milmascaras1
i think hopkins has finally bitten off too much for his own good. jean pascal is going to beat him handily by decision. hopkins is going to do alot of holding but pascal is too fast and young for the ancient hopkins.
I was thinking the same but I dont think Hopkins would have taken the fight if he didnt know how to beat Pascal. After initial friendly jokes with each other Hopkins has finally got under Pascals fight and this much is evident from the weigh in/press cons this week. Hopkins will make Pascal fight the way he wants him to fight and deviate from his own gameplan.
Pascal will not be knocking Hopkins out but if the Canadian gasses late on like he did against Dawson and Froch then I can see the old man giving him some shakey moments. The deciding factor for me is location. I can see Pascal taking a decision even if he doesnt deserve it. Hopkins will protest but nothing will be made of it because of the negative way he went about the fight. Holding and spoiling wont have got him any sympathy when teh decision goes against him.
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TigerFan
Here's a funny Steve Morrow related video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHbSCF1eu0o
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Pascal needs to be more active than Hopkins, i think he will, but will he be able to touch Hopkins enough to hurt him ? Pascal tends to be wide in is punches, Hopkins might be able to close the gap, hit a few punch and hold Pascal...
The refs in Quebec usually gives the fight to the busier fighter - I think it will be a very close Decision unless Pascal k.o him.
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Holy fucking shit! They're charging $69.99 for the PPV here. What a joke. Who would pay that?
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CFH
Holy fucking shit! They're charging $69.99 for the PPV here. What a joke. Who would pay that?
Yeah that's ridiculous, considering it's free here as long as you have showtime.
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Anyone else watching the Fury fight? God he sucks.
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Bilbo
You got a link Josh?
Sure, the Fury fight is just about over now though.
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Yeah, Tyson is a bit lame. Just pushing his punches in those final few rounds and too predictable. Tyson in name only.
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Maliagnaggi in a co feature in Canada ? Who does GBP hope to feed him to in future, any ideas?
Has Jacobs fought yet?
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Spicoli
Maliagnaggi in a co feature in Canada ? Who does GBP hope to feed him to in future, any ideas?
Has Jacobs fought yet?
He won by TKO in the 5th, I didn't see it though.
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Fun Fact, Rivera weighed in more than Solis did last night ;)
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IMO Pascal's style is tailor made for Hopkins. Hopkins will just wait on him and time him when he comes in with his lunging combos. Theres gonna be alot of head clashes. Hopkins will win a clear UD.
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Hey! It's Marlon Wright! Best ref ever.