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Khan's shameless ducking of Paul McCloskey continues ;D
Thats pretty cool IMHO hats off to Khan for taking this fight.
i will as usual pick Khan to get sparked out... but will look forward to being proved wrong again 8)
I don't think Zab has been looking particularly good recently and his output and punch variety appear to have diminished. He spends too much time waiting and I just think Khan will be able to build up too many rounds against him. Zab can punch, but he hasn't exactly been starching people recently.
Zab is a name, but clearly quite a bit past what he once was.
Khan would pummel Zab, really kick the shit out of him.
If Zab lands that left is good night for Khan.
If Judah comes out aggressive and puts his punches together he could stop Khan, but he won't and he'll get outboxed and likely stopped. That will make me happy.
Now this is a fight IMO. If Judah can refind some form now he is back at 140 this could be one hell of a fight. I think Khan does take him but if Zab lands a shot like the uppercut he landed on Tszyu in the first round of their fight then Khan will be out!!
I think the shoulda-coulda-woulda clock ran out on Judah long ago....like the last two rounds of last fight :shinner: Take Khan to tko Zab
I agree the shoulda, coulda, woulda scenario has been spelt out for so long now with Zab that it has worn out it's welcome. Zab has never been the same since Jay Nady saved his life! The thing is though...you just never know with Zab Judah!
Yeah his output I would say is the main thing that will keep him out of this fight... 20 to 30 seconds of good offense during a round just isn't enough... If he had Roy Jones type power that could rock an opponent, then his style could be enough.... But he's lost so many fights because he can't put together a whole fight of concentration and activity... He has his peaks, which geezuz christ, those peaks were enough to get the better of Mayweather, but they are only small patches of a 12 round fight... Simply not enough..Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
But i'll enjoy this fight and really look forward to it...
You gotta admire a guy who's lost almost all of his big fights, but his name still has an air of appreciation about it... And he's still going strong getting decent fights, when most guys lose 1 or 2 big fights and they fade into obscurity or become irrelevant... No one would pick Judah against the top of any weight division, but at the Khan level I think he can even get another 2 or 3 good fights at least if he hasn't aged ridiculously...
YESSSSS!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Now THIS is a fight I've really wanted to happen for some time.... These two guys will make such a great fight. For me, it's more about the match up of intangibles rather than the actual skills of each fighter that make this so intriguing for me.
Would be nice to see Judah back on HBO too ;)
I've only just watched the Maidana fight. I don't think I have ever seen quicker hand speed than Khan! Also, I was majorly impresseed with his chin, he took some ferocious shots froma huge puncher! I still have my doubts about him though :-\ Zab is a dangerous fight for which Khan probably won't get much credit. i.e If he wins, people just say Judah was washed up and had lost 6 times before.
I don't think that should (or wish that it wouldn't) matter a great deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Judah is way more experienced at world level and has fought with better opposition level than Kotelnik, Maidana and Malignaggi. So it's still a step up in competition albeit slightly askew.
Also, progress is never completely lineal. Even in the most promising of prospects.
Progress that is staggered is still progress all the same.
(Is it crazy that I still regard Khan as a prospect ??? )
Not really mate, check around the forums, there are many who still think Manny Pacquaio is unproven at the highest level.Quote:
Originally Posted by The GrinchI don't think that should (or wish that it wouldn't) matter a great deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Judah is way more experienced at world level and has fought with better opposition level than Kotelnik, Maidana and Malignaggi. So it's still a step up in competition albeit slightly askew.
Also, progress is never completely lineal. Even in the most promising of prospects.
Progress that is staggered is still progress all the same.
(Is it crazy that I still regard Khan as a prospect ??? )
Just a week later and Khan is close to signing another fight? Doubt it!!! Zab is talking out his . . . ! And I'm a strong Zab supporter. But IMO, he's not all there anymore. Khan should be able to stop him. On the other hand, Khan is talking the talk. Wait until Bradley vs Alexander is done then look for a fight against the winner. Use these four week to get the webs out.
:D Ha! Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboNot really mate, check around the forums, there are many who still think Manny Pacquaio is unproven at the highest level.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Grinch
Well I don't know about that. I just feel that although Khan has won a title or two, his career is still on an ascension that precedes the assumed elite level.
I dunno, he's still a kid ???
Well Zab Judah has been on the slide for quite sometime now, i didn't see his last fight. But i looked at the scores and it seems he was lucky to get nod, he was also floored in the 10th round in the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Zab Judah is just a gatekeeper now, the only fighter he's beat in ages worth mentioning is Santa Cruz who is really a Lightweight.
It's a decent fight for Amir Khan, but don't make out this fight. Is anything other than just to further Amir Khan's name in USA.
Because Zab Judah isn't a top level fighter anymore, and i don't know why he's at Jr Welterweight to be honest. Because dropping weight isn't going to help matters.
But its a decent fight and it makes sense in someways. But i would rather Amir Khan revenge his loss, i'd give him more credit for doing that.
I think there are definitely easier opponents out there for Khan than Zab, but I do think Khan will have too much for him.
Unlike Ice I think junior welter is why Zab should be. The fights he was losing at welterweight were to bigger guys who just outstrenghted him, and he faded down the stretch.
Mayythyse was a big junior welter with a very strong physical presence and again Zab, after winning most of the early rounds faded.
It's hard to imagine Zab being able to fight hard for 12 rounds. I've always thought of him as being like Victor Ortiz (or rather Ortiz being like Judah) in that he wilts under pressure. Faced with a tough challenge he stops punching and imo looks for a way out.
Khan never does that and that will mean he's likely to finish stronger imo.
Judah's best shot will be inside the first 4-6 rounds, after that it's likely to be all Khan.
As Khan is a pretty fast starter himself it's going to be hard for Zab to make any impression on this fight imo.
He has to land something big and hurt Khan early, or else he's just getting another beating from a bigger, stronger, younger, hungrier guy.
I think Khan wins late.
I think Khan stops him late on aswell. Having said that, Khan can surprise early on, so who knows. I'll just go with a Khan stoppage win. Judah has a chance if Khan gets wild and doesn't judge the distance quick enough. Should be fairly straight forward for him though. Too much output. Judah is 'wilty' for want of a better word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Interesting fight. Judah has the tools to stop anyone at 140 but he simply doesn't throw enough punches. Judah just postures too much and his jab is sh!t now. He's clearly a stepping stone and not a real contender anymore. Should be competitive for a couple rounds though until Khan stops him around 9 or 10. Khan seems very nervous in the ring though, anxiety's effect of his stamina will be his undoing once he steps up to the elite level.
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Originally Posted by onoI think Khan stops him late on aswell. Having said that, Khan can surprise early on, so who knows. I'll just go with a Khan stoppage win. Judah has a chance if Khan gets wild and doesn't judge the distance quick enough. Should be fairly straight forward for him though. Too much output. Judah is 'wilty' for want of a better word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Amir Khan always gets wild.
That's true, he can look a little clumsy and off balance at times. If he keeps this to a minimum, he should have few problems here though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBQuote:
Originally Posted by onoI think Khan stops him late on aswell. Having said that, Khan can surprise early on, so who knows. I'll just go with a Khan stoppage win. Judah has a chance if Khan gets wild and doesn't judge the distance quick enough. Should be fairly straight forward for him though. Too much output. Judah is 'wilty' for want of a better word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Amir Khan always gets wild.
i see this as an easy victory (points wise) for khan. i just think he's in his physical prime, and zab isn't what he used to be. khan UD12 117-111.
Khan by mid-round KO.
Did anyone see Judah in his last fight?
This fight is ok as Khan is getting back in the ring and wants a fight in the uk, but lets be real Judah is not the fighter he was and I fancy Khan to finish him similar to the Paulie fight.
I'm not high on khan but i see him beating judah. Hell i see almost any fighter beating judah cause he usually just beats himself.
This looks a better match up on paper than it probably is in reality. Sure Zab has power and could KO Khan but how long has it been sinc Zab looked good? 5 years? More? I think Zab has about a 5% chance of KOing Khan early and if he doesnt Amir boxes him to an easy UD.
The old Zab would absolutely crush Khan.
It's a shame.
Maybe Zab will go all out for this one and we'll see a bit of what he once was.
I don't really agree with that. Zab's always been Zab. He's always had the ability to be brilliant, but he's always been capable of being poor. Just never had the mental capability to be consistent throughout a single fight, let alone throughout his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
I'm sure when people talk about positively about Zab, they must only be remembering the first round against Tyszyu and the first 3 or 4 against Mayweather, where to be fair Mayweather probably hindered himself with his gigantic comedy gloves.
So basically, on either end of the spectrum you have a solid win over Cory Spinks, and then 2 defeats, where he initially looked good, before losing there-by causing a ring riot. In the middle of that spectrum, you have losses to Spinks, Baldomir, Clottey and Cotto.
So yeah, Zab's always been Zab.
One thing that was clear to me in the Marcos Maidana fight, was that Amir Khan would often go off balance when throwing combinations. Something Manny Pacquiao also did early in his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoThat's true, he can look a little clumsy and off balance at times. If he keeps this to a minimum, he should have few problems here though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBQuote:
Originally Posted by onoI think Khan stops him late on aswell. Having said that, Khan can surprise early on, so who knows. I'll just go with a Khan stoppage win. Judah has a chance if Khan gets wild and doesn't judge the distance quick enough. Should be fairly straight forward for him though. Too much output. Judah is 'wilty' for want of a better word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Amir Khan always gets wild.
Marcos Maidana couldn't take advantage of that, because he isn't fast enough. So im just wondering if Zab Judah can with his speed and countering abilities.
It's no secret Zab Judah isn't a top fighter anymore, and is just a gatekeeper now. But he still has some attributes to trouble Amir Khan.
And another thing to point out is how many Southpaw's has Amir Khan fought ? if any ? because i can't remember any at the moment. I know he spars with Manny Pacquiao, but it's totally different in a real fight.
If this fight was 6 rounds judah might have a chance.We all know judah is a front runner with 0 stamina!
Judah will hunt in the first 2-3 rounds, where Freddy will instruct khan to jab, stay mobile, and tie up. Judah will lose interest and his eye should be swelled shut enough to take enough punches and have it stopped or throw in the towel at the end of the 8th or 9th
Anyone knows the proposed date?
Not sure mate but the word on the street is now Peterson, personally I don't wanna see that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
zab is a done deal man he finished years ago and khan is going for the weak champion again......
i repeat khan is being a coward and getting a washed up big name to get to vegas and sell tickets.
khan morons.
now quote me