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It seems like it's been a few years since the middleweight division was this deep. Sergio Martinez holds the top spot, but he isn't the be-all-and-end-all in the division. Who's the best of the rest?
Felix Sturm
Daniel Geale
Dimitry Pirog
Gennady Govetkin
Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam
Fernando Guerrero
Ishe Smith
Danny Jacobs
Matthew Macklin
Matvey Korobov
David Lemiuex
Dimitry Pirog is definitely one to watch.
You seem to have mentioned quite a few. I'd add Emmanuel Steward's Andy Lee to the list, pending his rematch with Vera
i don't think pirog should be on this list because he's already a world champion. anyways, i think fernando guerrero, lemieux and korobov are definitely the best of the up and comers.
That is true. I included Sturm too who is a champion. Check out Gennady Govotkin - he may be the best on the list. And I've heard that the Frenchman, N'Jikam isn't half bad although I haven't seen him fight. I guess my point is that the division is beginning to look pretty deep.Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
I should have included Andy Lee, Ian McKewan and Peter Quillin.
I voted for Matthew Macklin. Just a blind guess.
Don't particularly rate any of them.
I'll go for two not on your list.
Matt Korobov and Darren Barker.
Oh just noticed Korobov now. I went for him them.
I like Korobov & Proksa the most...
I think Darren Barker should be on the list. He didn't look great last time I saw him, but he is 22-0 and improving. I think he's better than Macklin at this stage. Hopefully we will get to see that fight soon.
Pirog for me.
Korobov, Pirog and Lemieux strong. I'd personally take Smith and put him on the curb...know its premature but willing to bet that Jacobs will not be a primetime player, ever.
Not counting the title holders I would vote for Korobov.
I voted Sturm. I think he's the best middleweight outside of Martinez. Definitely the most accomplished from that list. Just wish he'd fight some big names in 2011 :-\
Lemiuex or Pirog if I had to pick, Lemieux has thudding power, pirog has power and a weird awkward style, granted only seen 2 of his fights. Sturm might be the best out of the list but is content with fighting mostly second tier guys in germany, his next opponent once again is tba in february.
Sturm is already an accomplish fighter. He kicked DLH ass.
Lemieux and Pyrog - People will understand how good is Lemieux after is fight with Rubio.
Lemieux has the same problem Valero had coming up, he's just blasting everyone out so it's impossible to tell how he'll deal with adversity. I really like him though, definitely one of the hardest hitters in pro boxing at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rocket
Pirog, if he ever fights again.
From what I saw of Macklin against a late fill in he is no world beater, no speed, no power, no clue. Andy Lee isnt even as big a puncher as Mayorga on the evidence of their last fights!
Grzegorz Proksa. Blanked on that one. Sorry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBVf...?v=peBVf3uURPI
Darren Barker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTRNuehRhk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTRNuehRhk
Easy... Korobov!
Heard his performances have been pretty flat recently. I'm waiting for him to step up the competition level. He's been fighting tomato cans for a minute now.Quote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
Yeah, Rantcatrat, checked it out and he's stepped into the 8-rounders now, all UD's despite two of these bouts against certified tomato cans in Snyder and Greenidge.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratHeard his performances have been pretty flat recently. I'm waiting for him to step up the competition level. He's been fighting tomato cans for a minute now.Quote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
The last one was a step up of sort for Korobov as he was up against Findley, who himself is in a similar move to the 8-10 rounders from 6. He was on a tear winning his last 4 bouts and 3 by stoppages, the reason why I am thinking that Matt's handlers may finally be pushing harder with Korobov's carreer as he is not getting any younger for this stage, at 27 yrs old.
He is still unbeaten tho', so that's one thing going good for him. Attractive for PPV undercard assignments.
I seem to remember from the Bertinelli fight that Korobov had KO power... any idea for the consecutive decisions he's been having as of late?
Is it a case of him outgrowing 160 by which consequence weght drained on fight night, or discipline, training, or attitude issues?
Good point. Findley was his toughest opponent to date and that was his last fight. Findley was Dirrell's last opponent before the Super Six.Quote:
Originally Posted by KananKrusYeah, Rantcatrat, checked it out and he's stepped into the 8-rounders now, all UD's despite two of these bouts against certified tomato cans in Snyder and Greenidge.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratHeard his performances have been pretty flat recently. I'm waiting for him to step up the competition level. He's been fighting tomato cans for a minute now.Quote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
The last one was a step up of sort for Korobov as he was up against Findley, who himself is in a similar move to the 8-10 rounders from 6. He was on a tear winning his last 4 bouts and 3 by stoppages, the reason why I am thinking that Matt's handlers may finally be pushing harder with Korobov's carreer as he is not getting any younger for this stage, at 27 yrs old.
He is still unbeaten tho', so that's one thing going good for him. Attractive for PPV undercard assignments.
I seem to remember from the Bertinelli fight that Korobov had KO power... any idea for the consecutive decisions he's been having as of late?
Is it a case of him outgrowing 160 by which consequence weght drained on fight night, or discipline, training, or attitude issues?
I voted Gennady Golovkin...he does look small at middleweight,but seems that he can punch...I mean he has got alot of KOs instead of the usual TKOs and from what I've seen he is decent enough technical boxer...would like to see him fight some bigger names...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oafzzMbFV4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhCyojdw29Q