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Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??
Mayorga: After I Handle Miguel Cotto, Pacquiao is Next!
It seems Mayorga is claiming he signed a contract to face Cotto.
Top Rank says negotiations are on-going between Mayorga, Wolak, Vanes.
This is scheduled to be PPV. So it's really a no-brainer who it should be and I can't wait.
I think Mayorga stands a good chance, but I need to watch the Walker fight I just downloaded.
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I don't think Cotto is the same fighter anymore. He was always vulnerable coming up, but in recent fights he has been taking punishment. Against Margarito, Clottey and Pac. Foreman had no pop and lost his leg so that one has question marks.
Mayorga would have a fair shot at taking Cotto out IMO.
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I can't wait for Mayorga's diarrhea mouth pre-fight hype.
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Sorry guys, off topic, how did Mayorga go in MMA? Sorry 4my ignorance...
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Don King raced down the highway with one million dollars in cash, to prevent the show from taking place. He ruined the whole show.
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Really good matchup for Cotto...
The Yuri fight was just weird.
Cotto wins via TKO.
Cotto needs to box early make Mayorga come to him then in the mid rounds just bring it and get the TKO.
Again I think this is a good fight for him.
Some of you guys know how huge of Cotto fan I am.
But I think Sergio flat out beats him and outboxes him with possibly a late TKO.
Sergios style is just all wrong for Cotto.
I think Vanes starts off well but he's just not seasoned enough.
I've seen Vanes fight and train and to be quite honest he doesn't impress me.
I mean the kids got good speed and def. knows how to box BUT it takes a lot more then that to beat Cotto. I think Vanes should face someone like Bundrage or Powell.
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Originally Posted by
miles
I don't think Cotto is the same fighter anymore.
Miles not being a wanka or anything but it doesnt take a genius to figure that out.
No fighter is ever the same after they've been in the kind of fights Cottos been in.
However Cotto still shows that when he decides to box he can.
He just has that live by the gun die by the gun style which made him more popular when he was coming up. I think that style get's the best of him and he just goes for it.
I have absolutely zero doubts that Cotto can beat Vanes, Kermit, Angulo and Alvarez.
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Originally Posted by
miles
Mayorga would have a fair shot at taking Cotto out IMO.
Mayorgas chances are as good as you throwing a haymaker...
For anyone to think Mayorgas got a good chance. Is really stretching out this whole "Cottos done" or "Cottos on the decline" thing a bit too far.
To think that Mayorga stands a chance is just nonsense.
I'm not talking about a hayemaker shot.
I'm talking about some actually thinking Mayorga will win with a plan of boxing and getting either a decision or a TKO.
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
Really good matchup for Cotto...
The Yuri fight was just weird.
Cotto wins via TKO.
Cotto needs to box early make Mayorga come to him then in the mid rounds just bring it and get the TKO.
Again I think this is a good fight for him.
Some of you guys know how huge of Cotto fan I am.
But I think Sergio flat out beats him and outboxes him with possibly a late TKO.
Sergios style is just all wrong for Cotto.
I think Vanes starts off well but he's just not seasoned enough.
I've seen Vanes fight and train and to be quite honest he doesn't impress me.
I mean the kids got good speed and def. knows how to box BUT it takes a lot more then that to beat Cotto. I think Vanes should face someone like Bundrage or Powell.
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Originally Posted by
miles
I don't think Cotto is the same fighter anymore.
Miles not being a wanka or anything but it doesnt take a genius to figure that out.
No fighter is ever the same after they've been in the kind of fights Cottos been in.
However Cotto still shows that when he decides to box he can.
He just has that live by the gun die by the gun style which made him more popular when he was coming up. I think that style get's the best of him and he just goes for it.
I have absolutely zero doubts that Cotto can beat Vanes, Kermit, Angulo and Alvarez.
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Originally Posted by
miles
Mayorga would have a fair shot at taking Cotto out IMO.
Mayorgas chances are as good as you throwing a haymaker...
For anyone to think Mayorgas got a good chance. Is really stretching out this whole "Cottos done" or "Cottos on the decline" thing a bit too far.
To think that Mayorga stands a chance is just nonsense.
I'm not talking about a hayemaker shot.
I'm talking about some actually thinking Mayorga will win with a plan of boxing and getting either a decision or a TKO.
Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.
Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.
I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".
I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.
As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.
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Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??
Pointless fight, again. He's getting good at these.
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
Really good matchup for Cotto...
The Yuri fight was just weird.
Cotto wins via TKO.
Cotto needs to box early make Mayorga come to him then in the mid rounds just bring it and get the TKO.
Again I think this is a good fight for him.
Some of you guys know how huge of Cotto fan I am.
But I think Sergio flat out beats him and outboxes him with possibly a late TKO.
Sergios style is just all wrong for Cotto.
I think Vanes starts off well but he's just not seasoned enough.
I've seen Vanes fight and train and to be quite honest he doesn't impress me.
I mean the kids got good speed and def. knows how to box BUT it takes a lot more then that to beat Cotto. I think Vanes should face someone like Bundrage or Powell.
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Originally Posted by
miles
I don't think Cotto is the same fighter anymore.
Miles not being a wanka or anything but it doesnt take a genius to figure that out.
No fighter is ever the same after they've been in the kind of fights Cottos been in.
However Cotto still shows that when he decides to box he can.
He just has that live by the gun die by the gun style which made him more popular when he was coming up. I think that style get's the best of him and he just goes for it.
I have absolutely zero doubts that Cotto can beat Vanes, Kermit, Angulo and Alvarez.
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Originally Posted by
miles
Mayorga would have a fair shot at taking Cotto out IMO.
Mayorgas chances are as good as you throwing a haymaker...
For anyone to think Mayorgas got a good chance. Is really stretching out this whole "Cottos done" or "Cottos on the decline" thing a bit too far.
To think that Mayorga stands a chance is just nonsense.
I'm not talking about a hayemaker shot.
I'm talking about some actually thinking Mayorga will win with a plan of boxing and getting either a decision or a TKO.
Mayorga is much bigger than Cotto who has only fought one fight at 154 and against a pillow puncher in Foreman. Cotto wasn't exactly a big WW and I thought it strange to see him go up and fight at 154. I just think he is too small for the best in the division and against someone as big as Mayorga who has been fighting as high as MW and above in recent years is extremely dangerous. I can see Mayorga's unorthodox style taking Cotto out of his comfort zone and giving him fits. Even Mosley was having a hard time of it until he finally managed to make an impact and I don't think Cotto has Mosley's kind of power nor endurance. Plus I can't see Cotto stopping Mayorga, not at LMW.
Cotto should be fighting at WW where he belongs. I think he has just too small a frame to be as relevant at LMW as he was at WW.
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i'm a big fan of cotto, he's one of the best fighters of the last decade.....tho on the big steep slide down i think if he's got anything left in the tank he can outbox ricardo here.........goto say i like mayorga to, not his dirty trash talk but his in ring entertainment, tho he also is a fighter one stop from shot...i thnik this one will be enterment value how ever long it lasts...mayorgas a one man circus
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
Really good matchup for Cotto...
The Yuri fight was just weird.
Cotto wins via TKO.
Cotto needs to box early make Mayorga come to him then in the mid rounds just bring it and get the TKO.
Again I think this is a good fight for him.
Some of you guys know how huge of Cotto fan I am.
But I think Sergio flat out beats him and outboxes him with possibly a late TKO.
Sergios style is just all wrong for Cotto.
I think Vanes starts off well but he's just not seasoned enough.
I've seen Vanes fight and train and to be quite honest he doesn't impress me.
I mean the kids got good speed and def. knows how to box BUT it takes a lot more then that to beat Cotto. I think Vanes should face someone like Bundrage or Powell.
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Originally Posted by
miles
I don't think Cotto is the same fighter anymore.
Miles not being a wanka or anything but it doesnt take a genius to figure that out.
No fighter is ever the same after they've been in the kind of fights Cottos been in.
However Cotto still shows that when he decides to box he can.
He just has that live by the gun die by the gun style which made him more popular when he was coming up. I think that style get's the best of him and he just goes for it.
I have absolutely zero doubts that
Cotto can beat Vanes, Kermit, Angulo and Alvarez.
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Originally Posted by
miles
Mayorga would have a fair shot at taking Cotto out IMO.
Mayorgas chances are as good as you throwing a haymaker...
For anyone to think Mayorgas got a good chance. Is really stretching out this whole "Cottos done" or "Cottos on the decline" thing a bit too far.
To think that Mayorga stands a chance is just nonsense.
I'm not talking about a hayemaker shot.
I'm talking about some actually thinking Mayorga will win with a plan of boxing and getting either a decision or a TKO.
Cut - I disagree. I see Vanes, Kermit, and Angulo beating Cotto at 154. Alvarez may be too green. Cotto beats Wolak.
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Cotto can box Mayorga can't, Cotto can set up his punches Mayorga can't....this fight would end in a worse beating for Mayorga than he took vs Oscar.
As for who challenges Cotto at 154: Alvarez, maybe Cintron, maybe Vanes....but deffo not Angulo.
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Cotto can box Mayorga can't, Cotto can set up his punches Mayorga can't....this fight would end in a worse beating for Mayorga than he took vs Oscar.
As for who challenges Cotto at 154: Alvarez, maybe Cintron, maybe Vanes....but deffo not Angulo.
Why not? Imo Cotto is way more talented than Cintron.
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Cintron has a good style to fight Cotto is all I'm saying.
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Cotto beat Mayorga easily and this will be a good fight.
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Cotto can box Mayorga can't, Cotto can set up his punches Mayorga can't....this fight would end in a worse beating for Mayorga than he took vs Oscar.
As for who challenges Cotto at 154: Alvarez, maybe Cintron, maybe Vanes....but deffo not Angulo.
Mayorga can take a shot, Cotto takes a knee;D
Mayorga may just be the strongest fighter that Cotto will have ever faced and for once it will be Mayorga who is fresh off a relatively impressive KO and his opponent who has been out for over 9 months!
Mayorga will hit Cottos little chin harder than Pacquiao or Margarito did.
Cotto is not interested in fighting any more, he would see this as an easy pay day that sells itself, whereas Mayorga sees Cotto as a little wimp stepping stone on his way to millions against Pacquia;D
Im confident for Mayorga in this fight just because he has actually got some decent rounds in just before the fight. He wont have chance to get rusty or out of shape, he can only be better than he was in his last fight! I very much doubt that Cottos promoter would be very confident of pitting him against any middle weight, whereas Mayorga has just wobbled dropped and KO,d a fighter more impressively than Andy Lee a big up and coming Steward fighter could manage.
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Feel free to see it that way but Cotto dominated Shane Mosley and unlike Mayorga he was able to last the distance. Ricardo won't even make weight and even if he does he's going to eat too many shots to last with Cotto.
As long as Mayorga doesn't load his gloves Cotto will take him. Its not like Ricardo has the handspeed of Pacquiao either.
Mayorga-Margarito should be made as they are both done as top tier fighters
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Mayorga by ko ;D
still love this guy, would love to see him spark Cotto!!!
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Does Mayorga still smoke 60 cancer sticks a day?
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The minute this fight gets a little bit hard, Mayorga will seek the easiest way out possible. I'll give him 5 rounds before he starts to look in big trouble.
If that doesn't happen, Cotto needs to knock the sport on the head.
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Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Feel free to see it that way but Cotto dominated Shane Mosley and unlike Mayorga he was able to last the distance. Ricardo won't even make weight and even if he does he's going to eat too many shots to last with Cotto.
As long as Mayorga doesn't load his gloves Cotto will take him. Its not like Ricardo has the handspeed of Pacquiao either.
Mayorga-Margarito should be made as they are both done as top tier fighters
The difference in their respective Mosley fights are that Ricardo forced the fight but was just not fit, hed been out a year and he wouldnt have been living like a monk inbetween;)
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
As long as Mayorga doesn't load his gloves Cotto will take him. Its not like Ricardo has the handspeed of Pacquiao either.
Ridiculous statement.:rolleyes:
Cotto can only be taken out by plaster???
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I can see Cotto taking Mayorga down with a devastating body shot. I like this matchup, it'll be interesting to see how Cotto deals with Mayorga's trash talk:D
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Feel free to see it that way but Cotto dominated Shane Mosley and unlike Mayorga he was able to last the distance. Ricardo won't even make weight and even if he does he's going to eat too many shots to last with Cotto.
As long as Mayorga doesn't load his gloves Cotto will take him. Its not like Ricardo has the handspeed of Pacquiao either.
Mayorga-Margarito should be made as they are both done as top tier fighters
Utter bollocks. Cotto/Mosley was quite a close fight in the end. Cotto spent the final rounds on the run. Again, this symbolises that Cotto has stamina issues and that a stronger fighter gets to him. Mosley fought the wrong fight early in that fight and should have been trying to rough Cotto up.
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
Really good matchup for Cotto...
The Yuri fight was just weird.
Cotto wins via TKO.
Cotto needs to box early make Mayorga come to him then in the mid rounds just bring it and get the TKO.
Again I think this is a good fight for him.
Some of you guys know how huge of Cotto fan I am.
But I think Sergio flat out beats him and outboxes him with possibly a late TKO.
Sergios style is just all wrong for Cotto.
I think Vanes starts off well but he's just not seasoned enough.
I've seen Vanes fight and train and to be quite honest he doesn't impress me.
I mean the kids got good speed and def. knows how to box BUT it takes a lot more then that to beat Cotto. I think Vanes should face someone like Bundrage or Powell.
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Originally Posted by
miles
I don't think Cotto is the same fighter anymore.
Miles not being a wanka or anything but it doesnt take a genius to figure that out.
No fighter is ever the same after they've been in the kind of fights Cottos been in.
However Cotto still shows that when he decides to box he can.
He just has that live by the gun die by the gun style which made him more popular when he was coming up. I think that style get's the best of him and he just goes for it.
I have absolutely zero doubts that Cotto can beat Vanes, Kermit, Angulo and Alvarez.
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Originally Posted by
miles
Mayorga would have a fair shot at taking Cotto out IMO.
Mayorgas chances are as good as you throwing a haymaker...
For anyone to think Mayorgas got a good chance. Is really stretching out this whole "Cottos done" or "Cottos on the decline" thing a bit too far.
To think that Mayorga stands a chance is just nonsense.
I'm not talking about a hayemaker shot.
I'm talking about some actually thinking Mayorga will win with a plan of boxing and getting either a decision or a TKO.
I'm a big fan of both Cotto and Mayorga. More so of Mayorga though.
And he most DEFINATELY stands a chance against Cotto. We all know Cotto has always been a cut below Oscar and Tito.
And Cotto ain't what he used to be.
Mayorga throws a good jab, good uppercuts, as well as his OVERHAND right.
Its easy and popular amongst some boxing schnobs to condescend and dismiss Mayorga, but the reality of this fight is that Mayorga has a very good shot of pressuring Cotto, and getting to him.
Mayorga just KO'd a middleweight.
I expect a very good fight that could go either way.
I'm happy for Mayorga !
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Feel free to see it that way but Cotto dominated Shane Mosley and unlike Mayorga he was able to last the distance. Ricardo won't even make weight and even if he does he's going to eat too many shots to last with Cotto.
As long as Mayorga doesn't load his gloves Cotto will take him. Its not like Ricardo has the handspeed of Pacquiao either.
Mayorga-Margarito should be made as they are both done as top tier fighters
Wait...WHAT ?!
Lyle, you and I both know that Cotto won a razor-thin decision against Mosley that could have gone either way.
Cotto is no doubt the superior boxer to Mayorga but Cotto has holes in his defense and has been on the receiving end of two brutal beatings recently.
Its anyones fight.
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Feel free to see it that way but Cotto dominated Shane Mosley and unlike Mayorga he was able to last the distance. Ricardo won't even make weight and even if he does he's going to eat too many shots to last with Cotto.
As long as Mayorga doesn't load his gloves Cotto will take him. Its not like Ricardo has the handspeed of Pacquiao either.
Mayorga-Margarito should be made as they are both done as top tier fighters
What?!? He dominated? He won by 1 round. I thought Shane should have got a draw, and you say dominated....lol.
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Not sure this is a needed or a smart fight for a warrior like Cotto who has taken alot of damage and might....might have one or two biggies left in him. They aint all pitching nerf balls like Foreman and Ricardo is a nasty,huge physical free swinger...with shoulders and fists. Mayorga is a re-establish type guy frankly and Cotto should bide his limited time for bigger name last hoorah clashes.
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I can't wait for Mayorga's diarrhea mouth pre-fight hype.
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I waiting for this boxing match.
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Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??
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Hulk
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
Really good matchup for Cotto...
The Yuri fight was just weird.
Cotto wins via TKO.
Cotto needs to box early make Mayorga come to him then in the mid rounds just bring it and get the TKO.
Again I think this is a good fight for him.
Some of you guys know how huge of Cotto fan I am.
But I think Sergio flat out beats him and outboxes him with possibly a late TKO.
Sergios style is just all wrong for Cotto.
I think Vanes starts off well but he's just not seasoned enough.
I've seen Vanes fight and train and to be quite honest he doesn't impress me.
I mean the kids got good speed and def. knows how to box BUT it takes a lot more then that to beat Cotto. I think Vanes should face someone like Bundrage or Powell.
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Originally Posted by
miles
I don't think Cotto is the same fighter anymore.
Miles not being a wanka or anything but it doesnt take a genius to figure that out.
No fighter is ever the same after they've been in the kind of fights Cottos been in.
However Cotto still shows that when he decides to box he can.
He just has that live by the gun die by the gun style which made him more popular when he was coming up. I think that style get's the best of him and he just goes for it.
I have absolutely zero doubts that Cotto can beat Vanes, Kermit, Angulo and Alvarez.
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Originally Posted by
miles
Mayorga would have a fair shot at taking Cotto out IMO.
Mayorgas chances are as good as you throwing a haymaker...
For anyone to think Mayorgas got a good chance. Is really stretching out this whole "Cottos done" or "Cottos on the decline" thing a bit too far.
To think that Mayorga stands a chance is just nonsense.
I'm not talking about a hayemaker shot.
I'm talking about some actually thinking Mayorga will win with a plan of boxing and getting either a decision or a TKO.
I'm a big fan of both Cotto and Mayorga. More so of Mayorga though.
And he most DEFINATELY stands a chance against Cotto. We all know Cotto has always been a cut below Oscar and Tito.
And Cotto ain't what he used to be.
Mayorga throws a good jab, good uppercuts, as well as his OVERHAND right.
Its easy and popular amongst some boxing
schnobs to condescend and dismiss Mayorga, but the reality of this fight is that Mayorga has a very good shot of pressuring Cotto, and getting to him.
Mayorga just KO'd a middleweight.
I expect a very good fight that could go either way.
I'm happy for Mayorga !
Did you just invent a new word? I like it! ;D Schnobs, a Saddo poster who hates and is a bit of a knob, a schnob. Good work Hulk :cool:
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Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
Really good matchup for Cotto...
The Yuri fight was just weird.
Cotto wins via TKO.
Cotto needs to box early make Mayorga come to him then in the mid rounds just bring it and get the TKO.
Again I think this is a good fight for him.
Some of you guys know how huge of Cotto fan I am.
But I think Sergio flat out beats him and outboxes him with possibly a late TKO.
Sergios style is just all wrong for Cotto.
I think Vanes starts off well but he's just not seasoned enough.
I've seen Vanes fight and train and to be quite honest he doesn't impress me.
I mean the kids got good speed and def. knows how to box BUT it takes a lot more then that to beat Cotto. I think Vanes should face someone like Bundrage or Powell.
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Originally Posted by
miles
I don't think Cotto is the same fighter anymore.
Miles not being a wanka or anything but it doesnt take a genius to figure that out.
No fighter is ever the same after they've been in the kind of fights Cottos been in.
However Cotto still shows that when he decides to box he can.
He just has that live by the gun die by the gun style which made him more popular when he was coming up. I think that style get's the best of him and he just goes for it.
I have absolutely zero doubts that Cotto can beat Vanes, Kermit, Angulo and Alvarez.
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Originally Posted by
miles
Mayorga would have a fair shot at taking Cotto out IMO.
Mayorgas chances are as good as you throwing a haymaker...
For anyone to think Mayorgas got a good chance. Is really stretching out this whole "Cottos done" or "Cottos on the decline" thing a bit too far.
To think that Mayorga stands a chance is just nonsense.
I'm not talking about a hayemaker shot.
I'm talking about some actually thinking Mayorga will win with a plan of boxing and getting either a decision or a TKO.
I'm a big fan of both Cotto and Mayorga. More so of Mayorga though.
And he most DEFINATELY stands a chance against Cotto. We all know Cotto has always been a cut below Oscar and Tito.
And Cotto ain't what he used to be.
Mayorga throws a good jab, good uppercuts, as well as his OVERHAND right.
Its easy and popular amongst some boxing
schnobs to condescend and dismiss Mayorga, but the reality of this fight is that Mayorga has a very good shot of pressuring Cotto, and getting to him.
Mayorga just KO'd a middleweight.
I expect a very good fight that could go either way.
I'm happy for Mayorga !
Did you just invent a new word? I like it! ;D
Schnobs, a Saddo poster who hates and is a bit of a knob, a schnob. Good work Hulk :cool:
haha
Well my dear hobbit, a schnob is just someone who is condescending, snooty, or perceives themselves as smarter/better than everyone else.
A Mr. Burns type from The Simpsons if you will indulge The Hulk on this one sir.
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Hulk
Well my dear hobbit, a schnob is just someone who is condescending, snooty, or perceives themselves as smarter/better than everyone else.
A Mr. Burns type from The Simpsons if you will indulge The Hulk on this one sir.
That is a good way to describe people who dismiss Mayorga!
Ok, Mayorga has done very little to merit any sort of world standing since the Picarillo fight but he has always been at least competative until he runs out of steam since then.
Like I said, hes not really interested in any legacy, just earning. If he can get straight shots at big names for big money he will do it. Hes never recently given himself the luxury of warm ups, or tune ups. Hes always been sat around for a year and then got a call out of the blue to be an "opponent" and as tough as Mayorga is, he knows he can compete and just takes it.
This time though, hes had a fight to get rid of the rust. It will be Cotto whos been out for 9 months and as long as Mayorga is concentrating on this (possible) shot right now and continuing to train from his last fight, then he gives himself a very good shot of a KO win.
There is a photo of Mayorgas last fight where he is swinging a hook to Walker while he cowers on his haunches in the corner. It reminded me of a shot from the Cotto Margarito fight;)
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People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.
Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.
Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.
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Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??
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El Kabong
People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.
Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.
Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.
This x100
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Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??
pointless fight and Cotto completely batters him, i don't even think it goes past 6
people are seriously starting to exaggerate what shape or where Cotto's is at in terms of his career, come 2011 with Steward in his corner IMO he's gonna shock quite a few people with how much he really has left ;)
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Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.
Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.
Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.
I wasnt comparing Mayorga to Margarito, I just said there are similar pictures where Mayorga and Margaritos opponents are being battered;D
Also, Margarito might throw that many punches a round but he isnt as big a puncher or as strong as Mayorga. Mosley walked through Margaritos punches and had him out in the ninth but in his very next fight against Ricardo, he is extended in to the 12th and was very wary of Mayorgas power, even jumping off the floor to hold and grab at one point.
Like I said, regardless of age, Mayorga will be the strongest and hardest hitting fighter that Cotto has faced.
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Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??
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ross
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.
Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.
Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.
I wasnt comparing Mayorga to Margarito, I just said there are similar pictures where Mayorga and Margaritos opponents are being battered;D
Also, Margarito might throw that many punches a round but he isnt as big a puncher or as strong as Mayorga. Mosley walked through Margaritos punches and had him out in the ninth but in his very next fight against Ricardo, he is extended in to the 12th and was very wary of Mayorgas power, even jumping off the floor to hold and grab at one point.
Like I said, regardless of age, Mayorga will be the strongest and hardest hitting fighter that Cotto has faced.
Mosley didn't take many punches from Margarito, everytime Margarito had him in range Mosley would clinch, push him off and unload or catch him with the overhand right
and if we wanna play the comparison game, lets not forget that Cotto outboxed Mosley for 12 rounds while Mayorga was knocked out cold in the 12th
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These are the pictures I mean that are quite similar. Both Mayorga and Margarito have their opponents cowering on the floor.
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Shame there a bit small like!
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Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??
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ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.
Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.
Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.
I wasnt comparing Mayorga to Margarito, I just said there are similar pictures where Mayorga and Margaritos opponents are being battered;D
Also, Margarito might throw that many punches a round but he isnt as big a puncher or as strong as Mayorga. Mosley walked through Margaritos punches and had him out in the ninth but in his very next fight against Ricardo, he is extended in to the 12th and was very wary of Mayorgas power, even jumping off the floor to hold and grab at one point.
Like I said, regardless of age, Mayorga will be the strongest and hardest hitting fighter that Cotto has faced.
Mosley didn't take many punches from Margarito, everytime Margarito had him in range Mosley would clinch, push him off and unload or catch him with the overhand right
and if we wanna play the comparison game, lets not forget that Cotto outboxed Mosley for 12 rounds while Mayorga was knocked out cold in the 12th
Mayorga was actually fighting and not skirting the ring. Cotto has always struck me as a bit of a reluctant warrior. Hes ok while his opponent is backing off but a strong aggressive powerfull fighter like Mayorga will put him in that retreating mode until he finds a nice soft corner to go down on his knees in;D