Boxing - Chavez to face Lyell
Shame on Martinez for taking the easy road of fighting Dzinziruk. As always, we can rely Chavez to continue to go out and get the big fights the fans really want to see!
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Boxing - Chavez to face Lyell
Shame on Martinez for taking the easy road of fighting Dzinziruk. As always, we can rely Chavez to continue to go out and get the big fights the fans really want to see!
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
Ha ha... careful.... you might get some Junior fans chiming in saying how right you are, not realizing your tongue is poking through your cheek.
na he's ok milmascaras isn't around anymore, seeing how he's the only guy on here who was a JR fan lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
Ha ha... careful.... you might get some Junior fans chiming in saying how right you are, not realizing your tongue is poking through your cheek.
what happened to milmas?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesna he's ok milmascaras isn't around anymore, seeing how he's the only guy on here who was a JR fan lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
Ha ha... careful.... you might get some Junior fans chiming in saying how right you are, not realizing your tongue is poking through your cheek.
This is horrid. Was Bronco mcKart not available ???
is it really that shocking that he's banned again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatratwhat happened to milmas?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesna he's ok milmascaras isn't around anymore, seeing how he's the only guy on here who was a JR fan lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
Ha ha... careful.... you might get some Junior fans chiming in saying how right you are, not realizing your tongue is poking through your cheek.
So sick of this. Is this kid ever going to get these leeches called "promoters" off his back and face some real competition, or is he just lovin every minutes of this gravy train he's on?
he was set to make $700,000 minimum against Wolak of all people, you really think he's gonna step up to face someone decent when he can make that type of money?Quote:
Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan
I don't understand why people want to watch Chavez Jr. fighting bums. What's the thinking behind it? "Well, his Dad was a great fighter, the son is a bit shit and constantly fights tomato cans, but on that basis we should all pay PPV to watch him". It's bloody stupid. Would I want to watch James Toney Jr. (if there is such a thing) if he is rubbish and only fights bartenders? No, of course not.
Lok at JCC Sr's record in his first 40 fights, Jr. is on the same career path. It's baby steps I guess, since he is working on new stuff with Roach and getting used to middleweight. I am a JCC Jr. fan after the Duddy fight, he could get better, so don't write him off yet.
Oh my days this is an awful fight. What the hell. Fan of Jnr or not, you can't be condoning this. Ha. I actually watched Chavez Duddy with some interest, now i'll go back to reading about Chavez's result via here or boxrec again until he steps it up. Poor showing. Even Wolak, IMO, was not gonna be a step up in competition really. I reckon I could be harder to hit than him.
i have seen a couple of Jr's fights, and the thing is he usually is in entertaining fights, but it's against mediocre opposition which isn't really saying much, if he was on the undercard i wouldn't be complaining but he's no main event attraction
Here is the thing. Chavez Jr. is young with no amateur background. His team isn't going to put him in with better opposition quite yet. It's understandable to an extent. The only thing I would like to see different is him against some different looks. Matt Vanda, John Duddy, Troy Rowland are all sorta cut from the same mold. Billy Lyell isn't any different. I want to see him up against someone who moves, at least somewhat moves, or a limited fighter with a relatively big punch. Isn't that how a young fighter progresses? Seeing the same look over and over doesn't do much to progress the fighter. What I would like to see is Chavez Jr. fight Zbik for the interim (or whatever) WBA title. That would be a welcome step up against competent foe (at least Tiger tells me he is competent).
He truly is his Fathers son....He will have a career of 100 bouts with 15 being actually worth something while the rest of it is drawn out as he waits for new cab drivers to get off their shifts
Exactly. People thought JCC wouldn't do anything once he started fighting for a championship or defending the belt and what a surprise. The people who hated him hated him more when they saw him winning championships and defending them for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Let's just suppose Jr. starts fighting bigger names and kept winning, do you think all the people that talked bad about him will all of a sudden start cheering for him and giving him credit?
I am surprised to hear a comment like that from you. Have you seen all JCC's accomplishments and why his name is mentioned in boxing?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
i used to be one of the ones backing up Jr, check the older threads and you'll see me giving him credit, but the thing is he's not stepping it up, hell even Wolak would have been a decent fight, but the kid refuses to step up the level of opposition, he's already at the point that he has to make good on his name, and not continue to just be Chavez JR, he needs to make a name of his own (obviously don't mean it literally) as other sons of famous fighters have done (Corey Spinks, Vazquez Jr, Floyd out of Roger's shadow, etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoExactly. People thought JCC wouldn't do anything once he started fighting for a championship or defending the belt and what a surprise. The people who hated him hated him more when they saw him winning championships and defending them for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Let's just suppose Jr. starts fighting bigger names and kept winning, do you think all the people that talked bad about him will all of a sudden start cheering for him and giving him credit?
I am surprised to hear a comment like that from you. Have you seen all JCC's accomplishments and why his name is mentioned in boxing?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by ChinoExactly. People thought JCC wouldn't do anything once he started fighting for a championship or defending the belt and what a surprise. The people who hated him hated him more when they saw him winning championships and defending them for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Let's just suppose Jr. starts fighting bigger names and kept winning, do you think all the people that talked bad about him will all of a sudden start cheering for him and giving him credit?
I am surprised to hear a comment like that from you. Have you seen all JCC's accomplishments and why his name is mentioned in boxing?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Dont get me wrong the comment was toung in cheek...JCC Sr is one of the sports ATG fighters but he has a lot of nobodies on his resume....JCC JR just IMO has not really propelled to where he should be by now....I hate when any fighter has a resume of second raters and gets so much publicity......He is young yet....I dont even think he has fully matured physically.....Funny thing is he fought Duddy who was the same/is the same all the hype for fighting and beating who? 2 losses and everyone seems to have forgotten his name....
I have no problems with guys getting respect for being a tough fighter who makes good fights and are entertaining but being entertaining and being top otch are 2 different things
When JCC Jr. to have a real opponent? he has 40 fights but no one was good.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
His selection as "hope" is an insult to those that knows a little about boxing
Chavez is a bluff!!