WBC order Pascal vs B-Hop II
The WBC has formally ordered a rematch today between Jean Pascal & @therealbhop. If Pascal has to fight Dawson again instead, he'll be stripped.
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BHop definitely deserves this. Well and truly robbed last time out.
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He deserves it, hopefully there won't be any controversy this time
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Stupid WBC, can't even adhere it's own ranking system. It's good for Hopkins but if Pascal were to fight Dawson he's just following the rules set by the WBC :confused:
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Think Pascal will take the strip and fight Dawson. Which doesn't matter cause Bernard already stripped him...who's Hopkins face for the vacant belt??
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Good, Hopkins deserves an immediate rematch. Judging on what I saw last time out Hopkins has the edge. Hopkins has Pascal figured out and I had never realised that Pascal's stamina was that bad.
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A boxing commission doing the right thing? I'm shocked and appalled.
This fight needs to take place in a neutral venue, but I wouldn't be surprised if money kept it in Quebec.
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:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o
I AM IN SHOCK!!!!!!!!!!!
The WBC is doing what is right for boxing for a change! (also I think there might have been some arm twisting by GBP)
Good news though,lets see if the old man can do it again.
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pascal will beat hopkins this time around...
but he would lose to dawson.
so this is good for everyone but chad.
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fantastic news
hopkins should feel sick at the constant bad decisions he is getting
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I think for once pretty much everyone agrees that this one should be played out again.
Good to see the WBC are doing the right thing, let's see if BHop can do it all over again!
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The WBC doing something right ??? And who said miracle doesn't happen?
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fantastic news
hopkins should feel sick at the constant bad decisions he is getting
I hoped thought you were dead.
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ruthless rocco
pascal will beat hopkins this time around...
but he would lose to dawson.
so this is good for everyone but chad.
I think Pascal is gonna opt to fight Dawson. I dont think he wants another ass whooping by someone old enough to be his daddy. What makes you think he will win? He had no answers and if not for horrific judging and bad refereeing he would have lost.
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No Contest
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ruthless rocco
pascal will beat hopkins this time around...
but he would lose to dawson.
so this is good for everyone but chad.
I think Pascal is gonna opt to fight Dawson. I dont think he wants another ass whooping by someone old enough to be his daddy. What makes you think he will win? He had no answers and if not for horrific judging and bad refereeing he would have lost.
He'll lose to either guy IMO.
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CFH
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No Contest
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ruthless rocco
pascal will beat hopkins this time around...
but he would lose to dawson.
so this is good for everyone but chad.
I think Pascal is gonna opt to fight Dawson. I dont think he wants another ass whooping by someone old enough to be his daddy. What makes you think he will win? He had no answers and if not for horrific judging and bad refereeing he would have lost.
He'll lose to either guy IMO.
i'm not a big fan of pascal. my brother kept telling me he was good. i didn't really see it... but he's better than he showed against hopkins. i didn't see him do anything from the second round on. i don't believe it was bernard's skills that shut pascal down...he pretty much stalled from the start on his own. hopkins then turned it up and took over. i believe pascal will come in trained and prepared with a fight plan and strategy that will allow him to win...i can't see him doing worse than he did the last time against b-hop and i acknowledge that he got very lucky with the reffing and the judges.
...as for dawson, i think he can smoothly cruise to victory against the smaller pascal with a strong jab keeping the fight on the outside followed by big bombs. pascal fought the fight of his life against dawson and got lucky with the clash of heads, whereas dawson looked pretty terrible most of the fight but appeared to be the better harder hitter who seemed to be the stronger fighter when he asserted himself effectively. if he's being trained by emmanual stewart and if he listens to what he's told i see him keeping pascal outside with relative ease and maybe even knocking him out while pascal is lunging in.
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No Contest
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ruthless rocco
pascal will beat hopkins this time around...
but he would lose to dawson.
so this is good for everyone but chad.
I think Pascal is gonna opt to fight Dawson. I dont think he wants another ass whooping by someone old enough to be his daddy. What makes you think he will win? He had no answers and if not for horrific judging and bad refereeing he would have lost.
Would think he will get more money and recognition if he fights Hopkins again.He can always fight Dawson after that.
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Although I'm pleased for Bhop I don't think it's the WBC doing the right thing at all, it's not the right thing.
They have officially elected judges who judge the fight and their result should stand. You can't just overide them because you feel like it, and it wasn't that controversial anyway.
There have been far worse decisions where a rematch hasn't been ordered. It's nothing about fairness and rather them favouring the bigger name fighter.
The first Toney Peter match was ordered to be refought as well.
When it's an upopular fighter who wins however ala Santa Cruz against Casamayor, an ancient Holyfield against Valuev, or a Kotelnik against Devon Alexander, then not a word from the sanctioning bodies.
Anyone who thinks this has anything to do with the WBC being fair is completely wrong. They just want the cash from a rematch. Fuck them.
And it's not even fair. According to the rules set up by them the three judges deemed it a draw. Pascal is being forced to refight even though he held on to his title according to their rules, because B Hop is a very big name in boxing. Had he fought Jesse Brinkley with the same outcome the WBC would be completely silent.
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Although I'm pleased for Bhop I don't think it's the WBC doing the right thing at all, it's not the right thing.
They have officially elected judges who judge the fight and their result should stand. You can't just overide them because you feel like it, and it wasn't that controversial anyway.
There have been far worse decisions where a rematch hasn't been ordered. It's nothing about fairness and rather them favouring the bigger name fighter.
The first Toney Peter match was ordered to be refought as well.
When it's an upopular fighter who wins however ala Santa Cruz against Casamayor, an ancient Holyfield against Valuev, or a Kotelnik against Devon Alexander, then not a word from the sanctioning bodies.
Anyone who thinks this has anything to do with the WBC being fair is completely wrong. They just want the cash from a rematch. Fuck them.
And it's not even fair. According to the rules set up by them the three judges deemed it a draw. Pascal is being forced to refight even though he held on to his title according to their rules, because B Hop is a very big name in boxing. Had he fought Jesse Brinkley with the same outcome the WBC would be completely silent.
Would they not get the same money if Pascal fought Dawson instead anyway? I don't understand how it all works with the sanctioning bodies except they seem to do what suits themselves. I know they get a sanctioning fee, is that a percentage of the total purse or something?
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Bilbo
Although I'm pleased for Bhop I don't think it's the WBC doing the right thing at all, it's not the right thing.
They have officially elected judges who judge the fight and their result should stand. You can't just overide them because you feel like it, and it wasn't that controversial anyway.
There have been far worse decisions where a rematch hasn't been ordered. It's nothing about fairness and rather them favouring the bigger name fighter.
The first Toney Peter match was ordered to be refought as well.
When it's an upopular fighter who wins however ala Santa Cruz against Casamayor, an ancient Holyfield against Valuev, or a Kotelnik against Devon Alexander, then not a word from the sanctioning bodies.
Anyone who thinks this has anything to do with the WBC being fair is completely wrong. They just want the cash from a rematch. Fuck them.
And it's not even fair. According to the rules set up by them the three judges deemed it a draw. Pascal is being forced to refight even though he held on to his title according to their rules, because B Hop is a very big name in boxing. Had he fought Jesse Brinkley with the same outcome the WBC would be completely silent.
very very true!