British board likely to refuse the Chagaev fight

Looks like his Hep B will force there hand, I think he is a has been anyway personally since he has had this he has hardly fought and Wlad already beat the shit out of him and he looked shit last time out, I think it would be the Ruiz fight all over again.


The only fight that interests me now is Povetkin who is ranked number 3 by the WBA.

Current WBA top 15

1.Chagaev
2.Boytsov
3.Povetkin
4.Ustinov
5.Rahman
6.Valuev
7.Dimitrenko
8.Mormeck
9.Meehan
10.Adamek
11.Heleius
12.Ibragimov
13.Bakhtov
14.Gomez
15.Arreola


I wouldn't rule out a rematch with Mormeck which would be a fucking farce but he is in the the top ten.

just looking at that top 15 depresses me:(

Surprise surprise....doesn't make much difference to me as Chagaev looks washed up.

I don't know who I'd like to see this guy fight outside of the Klitschko's or Adamek...Boytsov isn't ready IMO, Dimitrenko would be an easy fight, Chambers would be a difficult one but he's been inactive for a while.

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Surprise surprise....doesn't make much difference to me as Chagaev looks washed up.

I don't know who I'd like to see this guy fight outside of the Klitschko's or Adamek...Boytsov isn't ready IMO, Dimitrenko would be an easy fight, Chambers would be a difficult one but he's been inactive for a while.

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i dont wanna see haye fight anyone other than wlad or vitali! if that dont happen i aint interested in him

Couldn't he fight him in Ireland?

Has there ever been a heavyweight title fight there?

I say if Haye can't or won't fight the Klitschkos then throw Sam Peter in there with him.

Or at least the Elephant Seal Arreola.

Someone who can hit hard and is a threat.

He would KO Chagaev within 5 anyway and we all know it! He'd make sure it looked far better than when Wlad fought him and it wouldn't take much!

I dont blame anyone for not wanting to fight Chagaev. I mean if you dont have the vaccine, its too risky....he gets cut, and you get cut, and theres a problem. He should just retire, he sucks anyway after his achillies injury.

I wonder if Povetkin would be up to fight him? I mean what with the trainer situation you've got to wonder if that would hinder his chances at getting offered or even taking a title shot.

Who gives a fuck? Haye should just give up his worthless WBA title if it presents a problem. He's a paper champion anyway. That title by all rights should be Wlad's

Stick him in with Chambers, Peters, Arreola, Adamek or even Povetkin like Lyle suggested. Just someone younger than 35 and with a pulse. Haye will likely fight someone easy and then head off into retirement. A rich man, but a fraud nonetheless.

So is this official? I've never liked Haye's chances against someone as potentially cagey as Chagaev. But then I never saw his last fight..?

This is a blessing. After watching Chagaev in his last fight, he would get absolutely pummeled by Haye worse than Ruiz got it.

Echoing Drago, a fight against either Klit is the only way to go. Sam peter is done, Arreola is Grotesquely out of shape, Chambers is a fat cruiserweight, Povetkin will never be ready and I can't be bothered even thinking about anyone else. I wouldn't mind seeing Haye Adamek as the only possible substitute fight around.

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This is a blessing. After watching Chagaev in his last fight, he would get absolutely pummeled by Haye worse than Ruiz got it.

Echoing Drago, a fight against either Klit is the only way to go. Sam peter is done, Arreola is Grotesquely out of shape, Chambers is a fat cruiserweight, Povetkin will never be ready and I can't be bothered even thinking about anyone else. I wouldn't mind seeing Haye Adamek as the only possible substitute fight around.

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This is a blessing. After watching Chagaev in his last fight, he would get absolutely pummeled by Haye worse than Ruiz got it.

Echoing Drago, a fight against either Klit is the only way to go. Sam peter is done, Arreola is Grotesquely out of shape, Chambers is a fat cruiserweight, Povetkin will never be ready and I can't be bothered even thinking about anyone else. I wouldn't mind seeing Haye Adamek as the only possible substitute fight around.

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I echo those sentiments as well. Really, if it isn't a Klitschko, Adamek is the only way to go. Solis is the other contender I'd consider, but as he's just agreed to fight Vitali that is out of the question. Wouldn't be stunned if the Valuev rematch happened now.

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This is a blessing. After watching Chagaev in his last fight, he would get absolutely pummeled by Haye worse than Ruiz got it.

Echoing Drago, a fight against either Klit is the only way to go. Sam peter is done, Arreola is Grotesquely out of shape, Chambers is a fat cruiserweight, Povetkin will never be ready and I can't be bothered even thinking about anyone else. I wouldn't mind seeing Haye Adamek as the only possible substitute fight around.

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I echo those sentiments as well. Really, if it isn't a Klitschko, Adamek is the only way to go. Solis is the other contender I'd consider, but as he's just agreed to fight Vitali that is out of the question. Wouldn't be stunned if the Valuev rematch happened now.

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Its truly the only way. The whole heavyweight thing for me just makes boxing look horrible, it really does. Haye, The Klits and Adamek are the only true athletes at heavyweight. Nearly all the other guys make it into a heavyweight category through either being out of shape or plain fat (or ludicrously tall like Valuev). If Valuev was 6 - 8 inches smaller allround he would get totally iced at heavyweight. Hell, even Solis manages to weigh in huge realted to his height. I reckon he'd be classed as obese on a BMI. He'll get smashed by Vitali.

If he really is not going to have anything to do with the Klits he should just retire now.

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Yeno, if Haye is smart, he should offer Adamek more money to take a fight in June, that way, he really would put Wlad in a corner. Adamek would take more money to fight Haye IMO.

No wonder Haye wants to retire - really, who is there that's worth fighting? None of that lot make an exciting fight. Bums, the lot of them!

Even in the 90s we had the Trio of Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis with characters like Mercer, Morrison, Hide and McCall (not forgetting Foreman's comeback win v Moorer) but these days there aren't any challengers to the 2 robot brothers - where did it all go wrong?

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No wonder Haye wants to retire - really, who is there that's worth fighting? None of that lot make an exciting fight. Bums, the lot of them!

Even in the 90s we had the Trio of Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis with characters like Mercer, Morrison, Hide and McCall (not forgetting Foreman's comeback win v Moorer) but these days there aren't any challengers to the 2 robot brothers - where did it all go wrong?

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no stop u gonna make me cry, the 90's were great! we even had people parachuting into the ring in title fights back then;D

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No wonder Haye wants to retire - really, who is there that's worth fighting? None of that lot make an exciting fight. Bums, the lot of them!

Even in the 90s we had the Trio of Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis with characters like Mercer, Morrison, Hide and McCall (not forgetting Foreman's comeback win v Moorer) but these days there aren't any challengers to the 2 robot brothers - where did it all go wrong?

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no stop u gonna make me cry, the 90's were great! we even had people parachuting into the ring in title fights back then;D

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That really is gunna make me cry. Nowadays we're struggling to get fighters in the ring!

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No wonder Haye wants to retire - really, who is there that's worth fighting? None of that lot make an exciting fight. Bums, the lot of them!

Even in the 90s we had the Trio of Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis with characters like Mercer, Morrison, Hide and McCall (not forgetting Foreman's comeback win v Moorer) but these days there aren't any challengers to the 2 robot brothers - where did it all go wrong?

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no stop u gonna make me cry, the 90's were great! we even had people parachuting into the ring in title fights back then;D

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That really is gunna make me cry. Nowadays we're struggling to get fighters in the ring!

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holyfield fought moorer with a hole in his heart for fks sake!
lennox sent a guy in a chicken suit to follow bowe abt!
tommy morrison used to drink 10 pints a night!
herbie hide used to hit the deck 10 times a round!
mike tyson used to bite peoples ears off!
bowes crew broke a mobile phone on goloto's head!

the heavyweights in the 90's rocked!

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No wonder Haye wants to retire - really, who is there that's worth fighting? None of that lot make an exciting fight. Bums, the lot of them!

Even in the 90s we had the Trio of Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis with characters like Mercer, Morrison, Hide and McCall (not forgetting Foreman's comeback win v Moorer) but these days there aren't any challengers to the 2 robot brothers - where did it all go wrong?

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no stop u gonna make me cry, the 90's were great! we even had people parachuting into the ring in title fights back then;D

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That really is gunna make me cry. Nowadays we're struggling to get fighters in the ring!

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holyfield fought moorer with a hole in his heart for fks sake!
lennox sent a guy in a chicken suit to follow bowe abt!
tommy morrison used to drink 10 pints a night!
herbie hide used to hit the deck 10 times a round!
mike tyson used to bite peoples ears off!
bowes crew broke a mobile phone on goloto's head!

the heavyweights in the 90's rocked!

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Don't dude, the tears are rolling pretty fast here. Remember the 1st Tyson-Holyfield fight. The card on that was truly unbelievable. 3 Heavyweight title fights on one night. Those were the days when it meant something.

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No wonder Haye wants to retire - really, who is there that's worth fighting? None of that lot make an exciting fight. Bums, the lot of them!

Even in the 90s we had the Trio of Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis with characters like Mercer, Morrison, Hide and McCall (not forgetting Foreman's comeback win v Moorer) but these days there aren't any challengers to the 2 robot brothers - where did it all go wrong?

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no stop u gonna make me cry, the 90's were great! we even had people parachuting into the ring in title fights back then;D

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That really is gunna make me cry. Nowadays we're struggling to get fighters in the ring!

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holyfield fought moorer with a hole in his heart for fks sake!
lennox sent a guy in a chicken suit to follow bowe abt!
tommy morrison used to drink 10 pints a night!
herbie hide used to hit the deck 10 times a round!
mike tyson used to bite peoples ears off!
bowes crew broke a mobile phone on goloto's head!

the heavyweights in the 90's rocked!

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Fuck you man! :eek:

If I could Sad Click you I would. I'm so fucking depressed right now....

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If he really is not going to have anything to do with the Klits he should just retire now.

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It's all getting a bit silly now.... even Tarvers jumped in an called out Haye ;D

Antonio Tarver: David Haye is Vulnerable, I'll Expose Him! - Boxing News

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If he really is not going to have anything to do with the Klits he should just retire now.

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It's all getting a bit silly now.... even Tarvers jumped in an called out Haye ;D

Antonio Tarver: David Haye is Vulnerable, I'll Expose Him! - Boxing News

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You no what I would rather him fight a Tarver or a Toney then some of these fat bums, that list I put up is quite depressing.

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If he really is not going to have anything to do with the Klits he should just retire now.

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It's all getting a bit silly now.... even Tarvers jumped in an called out Haye ;D

Antonio Tarver: David Haye is Vulnerable, I'll Expose Him! - Boxing News

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You no what I would rather him fight a Tarver or a Toney then some of these fat bums, that list I put up is quite depressing.

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Agree but either way whoever he fights next he'll just get ripped apart by the Lyles of this world.

Fucked if he does ...fucked if he doesn't situation.

As far as Heavyweight Champs go he really hasn't had a mega pay cheque as yet.

Be interesting to know his ring earnings to date, i can't imagine they're that great in comparison to other belt holders.

Tarver might be a wise move, bit of a face for the stats but again it proves nothing "Tarvers shot etc"

All in all Hayes in a pretty shit place at this stage of his career when realistically he's probably at his peak and i reckon we've still not seen the best of him at all.

Totally f*cked up and i'd back him heavily to Smash Wlad to bits ... think Vitali would be a massive ask if im honest...Vitalis got a cracking chin so Haye might scrape a points win.
Depends what Vitalis got left really but it's hard to judge all 3 of them really as they all keep fighting shit. lol

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It's all getting a bit silly now.... even Tarvers jumped in an called out Haye ;D

Antonio Tarver: David Haye is Vulnerable, I'll Expose Him! - Boxing News

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You no what I would rather him fight a Tarver or a Toney then some of these fat bums, that list I put up is quite depressing.

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I'd rather he fought Holyfield than Tarver or Toney. Holyfield, even at 46, might be the most dangerous American Heavyweight out there just for his all round skill. How sad is that?!?

Truth be told, like the Klitschko's have found, there are few options out there in the heavyweight division. The only big fights are Adamek, Haye, and the Klitschkos. With Solis fighting Vitali and Adamek lined up for Wlad, Chagaev is really one of the best out there.

Haye hasn't made any real noise in the division yet. He took his title from Valuev and defended it against Audley and Ruiz. That doesn't qualify as a legacy. Now that I think about it, what was Haye's best win? Probably Valuev or Enzo or Mormeck. Right? That doesn't say very much at all. I'll go as far to say that beating Chagaev would maybe be his best career win. Maybe for that reason, it is worth pursuing. Adamek has better wins than Haye in his career by a good amount, I would say.

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No wonder Haye wants to retire - really, who is there that's worth fighting? None of that lot make an exciting fight. Bums, the lot of them!

Even in the 90s we had the Trio of Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis with characters like Mercer, Morrison, Hide and McCall (not forgetting Foreman's comeback win v Moorer) but these days there aren't any challengers to the 2 robot brothers - where did it all go wrong?

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no stop u gonna make me cry, the 90's were great! we even had people parachuting into the ring in title fights back then;D

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That really is gunna make me cry. Nowadays we're struggling to get fighters in the ring!

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plus

holyfield fought moorer with a hole in his heart for fks sake!
lennox sent a guy in a chicken suit to follow bowe abt!
tommy morrison used to drink 10 pints a night!
herbie hide used to hit the deck 10 times a round!
mike tyson used to bite peoples ears off!
bowes crew broke a mobile phone on goloto's head!

the heavyweights in the 90's rocked!

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Don't dude, the tears are rolling pretty fast here. Remember the 1st Tyson-Holyfield fight. The card on that was truly unbelievable. 3 Heavyweight title fights on one night. Those were the days when it meant something.

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herbie hide & michael bentt rolling around scrappin in the street
tyson blowing ruddock kisses
oliver mccall having a breakdown in the ring
mercer telling ferguson to take a dive in the ring

ibragimov or rahman is possible the best picks here lol....what a line-up

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This is a blessing. After watching Chagaev in his last fight, he would get absolutely pummeled by Haye worse than Ruiz got it.

Echoing Drago, a fight against either Klit is the only way to go. Sam peter is done, Arreola is Grotesquely out of shape, Chambers is a fat cruiserweight, Povetkin will never be ready and I can't be bothered even thinking about anyone else. I wouldn't mind seeing Haye Adamek as the only possible substitute fight around.

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even with arreloa being overweight it wont matter cos at least he will come to fight Haye and actually test him. I want to see him fight arreola because it brings a bit more excitment to the ring. I would love an adamek fight but hes fighting vitali, so thats going to be the end of adamek IMO

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ibragimov or rahman is possible the best picks here lol....what a line-up

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Not even the good Ibragimov. It'll be Rahman I tell ya.

If I was managing the guy this is what I would do. There are 2 routes he could go by.

#1 Actually test himself as a heavyweight (in no order): Povetkin, Sam Peter, Tomaz Adamek, Eddie Chambers, Cris Arreola, Holyfield, Pianetta, Boytsov

#2 Another easy fight (in no order): Dimitrenko, Krasniqi, Dominick Guinn, Timur Ibragimov, Hasim Rahman, Valuev II, Sergei Lyakhovich, James Toney, Mormeck II, Tarver, Roy Jones Jr. (Sad to say it)

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If I was managing the guy this is what I would do. There are 2 routes he could go by.

#1 Actually test himself as a heavyweight (in no order): Povetkin, Sam Peter, Tomaz Adamek, Eddie Chambers, Cris Arreola, Holyfield, Pianetta, Boytsov

#2 Another easy fight (in no order): Dimitrenko, Krasniqi, Dominick Guinn, Timur Ibragimov, Hasim Rahman, Valuev II, Sergei Lyakhovich, James Toney, Mormeck II, Tarver, Roy Jones Jr. (Sad to say it)

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O_o No god not them two. Sosnowski beat Pianetta (no matter how the judges saw it, Albert dominated the Italian kid) and Holyfield would back up the idea that Haye only fights old men.

Yes but Sosnowski is a different style fighter and styles make fights. I think a big southpaw with decent power is usually a tough ask for anyone.

Holyfield is still durable and still has great work ethic.

Sosnowski wouldn't be a horrible choice either. Good durable fighter.

I personally want to see the guy fight a durable fighter with good power just to see what happens and how he copes.

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Yes but Sosnowski is a different style fighter and styles make fights. I think a big southpaw with decent power is usually a tough ask for anyone.

Holyfield is still durable and still has great work ethic.

Sosnowski wouldn't be a horrible choice either. Good durable fighter.

I personally want to see the guy fight a durable fighter with good power just to see what happens and how he copes.

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Pianetta really isn't very good, IMO and it's not a fight that would do anything for Haye.

Holyfield is a terrible choice old, and shot beyond ****

Sosnowski...the same guy who Vitali got slated for? (I like Albert and think he's a decent hard worker, but just got no)

Thompson would be a decent choice imo (even if he is old he's tough and talented) but was a sparring partner, Ustinov could be interesting...if it wasn't for the fact he's slower than a shed.

Solis or Adamek would have been the best choices outside the Klitchko's of course.

Thompson won't happen, Ustinov is a K2 fighter so you have to reckon if he refuses to fight Wlad or Vitali he'll refuse to fight Ustinov.

Sam Peter is still a good fight IMO, he's got power, a good chin, and he can box a bit.

Eddie Chambers wouldn't be horrible.

Eddie Chambers is a bloody good fighter. More than just a 'fat' cruiserweight' anyway...

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Yeah but he puts in cowardlike performances once he gets hit hard. He just starts blocking and holding, doesnt even try to go offensive.