a LEGEND in the making

I'm watching Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. fight yet another dead body... er... I mean... opponent, and it suddenly occurs to me... I've been going about this all WRONG. Accusing poor Junior of being coddled by Papa, being brought along, coddling his precious "0", feasting on tomato cans, just like his dad did. But no... I'm beginning to see things differently now.

Junior should win this fight without too much trouble. That means he'll be 42-0-1. He's soon to be 25 years old and has been fighting roughly 7 years. That works out to roughly 6 fights a year. Let's see... assuming he continues his current pace, he should continue to accumulate 6 victories a year. He needs 58 to reach 100 like his old man. So let's see... that's roughly 10 more years. He'd be 35 by then, certainly not old by today's boxing standards.

Wow... Junior will join his dad in the 100-win club sometime in 2021, except he'll do his dad one better. He'll reach 100 wins without a loss. Now for a strategy... how do we do this?

Well... they're bound to run out of dead bodies... I mean... opponents pretty soon. What to do next? Hmmm... I know, they can hold raffles at the local arena in Mexico. Pay $10, buy a raffle ticket. If you get picked... you get a $500 payday for getting in the ring with Junior. A helpful staff member will check your basic medical information to make sure no one dies of a heart attack. Papa himself will supervise someone else on the staff who will give the raffle winner some pointers on self-defense and basic boxing skills. Some autographed pictures from Papa himself and a pair of autographed boxing shorts, a pat on the back, and off you go, into the ring.

Before you know it... 6 victories a year... Junior pads his record while the old man swells with pride... and we have another legend in the making.

Anyone have their cell phone number? Maybe they'll buy my idea.

:)

Oh WOW... what a surprise!! The kid won AGAIN!! Man... I feel so priviliged to be watching " a legend in the making."





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Now the Fox Deportes commentators are trying to talk up the quality of the defeated challenger, "what's-his-name". This is hilarious. Papa's probably just outside camera range nodding approvingly at everything they say.

What was the result? A ko or decision. If he KO'd Lyell then good on him. He's a decent, not great fighter.

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Originally Posted by No Contest

What was the result? A ko or decision. If he KO'd Lyell then good on him. He's a decent, not great fighter.

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A decision. But no matter... the legend GROWS.

96-94 on one card, hardly dominating by JCC Jr. The other two had it like 98-92 from what I saw, the 7th round on, it was a close fight, and JCC Jr. didnt overly impress me at all. The crowd was even kind of w/e to the decision. They wanted a knockout.Take into consideration this is the guy Kirkland ktfo and Sylvester beat down. Now JCC Jr, gets his gift belt against Zbik the guy who worked soo hard for the belt. Fucking WBC clowns.

hahaha and to think milmascaras was trying to talk up how Jr would be able to even give Pacquiao trouble

as i see it all the big names ever mentioned would brutally beat up Jr, Martinez, Cotto, Pacquiao, Williams, Alvarez, hell i'd even pick DLH over him as of right now, the kid isn't getting any better and he's doing the bare minimum to win fights he should be dominating, this just goes to show how shit Duddy was rather than how decent Jr might of been

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

hahaha and to think milmascaras was trying to talk up how Jr would be able to even give Pacquiao trouble

as i see it all the big names ever mentioned would brutally beat up Jr, Martinez, Cotto, Pacquiao, Williams, Alvarez, hell i'd even pick DLH over him as of right now, the kid isn't getting any better and he's doing the bare minimum to win fights he should be dominating, this just goes to show how shit Duddy was rather than how decent Jr might of been

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Well.... consider the source.

;D

41-0

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

41-0

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against a bunch of nobodies and part time fighters

I understand that JCC Jr. doesn't have an amateur background, but I still think they are developing him too slowly. After 30 fights, he should have at least been fighting respected journeyman and/or gatekeepers. He doesn't seem to be moving up the ladder in competition, so it is hard to determine how good or he is. I mean if he ended his career right now, you would just have to shrug your shoulders , because he hasn't done anything. Now he has plenty of time to do something in his career, but I just can't help but think that when he finally moves up to face an elite fighter, like Sergio Martinez, he is going to get hammered and just quit the sport. Maybe this is what JCC Jr. wants. Let's be honest he is headlining PPV's, making good money fighting in boxing matches that are little more than exhibitions. The draw isn't "how good is JCC Jr." its "come see the undefeated son of the legend." Most people have to step up their competition level or they wouldn't be able to sell tickets, but Juniors doesn't have a problem putting butts in seats so if he doesn't have the desire to truly be a champion there is no reason for him to challenge himself. I don't think he has that desire to be the best.

I do not think he is improving. IMO he will evetually run into a K.O lost.

It's a CIRCUS... pure and simple. Proud Papa pulling all the right strings to get his coddled son undefeated and all the way to 100 wins, which he should arrive at by age 35, according to some rough calculations.

And Fox Deportes or whatever the hell other networks show his fights are in on the circus act... reading carefully from the script Papa hands them. "The opponent was dangerous"... "it was a big step forward for Junior"... "he's a chip off the old block"..... Ok Mr. Chavez, can we get paid now?

Well i came in this thread thinking it was going to be about Bradley. Only to find Tito bitching about JCC jr. i mean i get it don't like him or his father but shit i mean done so many threads on this.

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Well i came in this thread thinking it was going to be about Bradley. Only to find Tito bitching about JCC jr. i mean i get it don't like him or his father but shit i mean done so many threads on this.

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You went into a thread titled "a LEGEND in the making", and you thought it was going to be about BRADLEY?!?


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I don't know hes doing well i think he is on his way.

JCC jnr is not good enough to mix with world class fighters and is not fit to carry the name but very few are.

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Well i came in this thread thinking it was going to be about Bradley. Only to find Tito bitching about JCC jr. i mean i get it don't like him or his father but shit i mean done so many threads on this.

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I was thinking the same thing. ;D

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Well i came in this thread thinking it was going to be about Bradley. Only to find Tito bitching about JCC jr. i mean i get it don't like him or his father but shit i mean done so many threads on this.

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You went into a thread titled "a LEGEND in the making", and you thought it was going to be about BRADLEY?!?


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Hahahaha

When Chavez Sr. came up, he was 40-something and zero...no names on his record, and he fought Adrian Arreola at the Olympic Auditorium, in LA, barely won a split decision. (Arreola was a tough local fighter, top-ten fringe guy) and everybody thought Chavez was another overrated Mexican fighter with an inflated record but he did pretty well thereafter. Flloyd Patterson refused to let Tracy Harris Patterson fight for a title until after his 50th pro fight.
I've seen lots of fighters win "world" titles in their 12th pro fights and don't think it makes 'em good...bring a guy along slow. Is Chavez Jr "world class"? I don't think much of anybody is world class any more.

I remember how Chavez Sr. was also hated by boxing fans, annalists, commentators, etc. many thought he would do no good against elite contenders and now look at his accomplishments and people still won’t give him credit. I wonder if the same will happen to Jr. If he didn’t have the “Chavez” last name people would probably give him the nod.

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Well i came in this thread thinking it was going to be about Bradley. Only to find Tito bitching about JCC jr. i mean i get it don't like him or his father but shit i mean done so many threads on this.

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You went into a thread titled "a LEGEND in the making", and you thought it was going to be about BRADLEY?!?


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I was thinking Berto or Malignaggi.:p

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Originally Posted by Chino

I remember how Chavez Sr. was also hated by boxing fans, annalists, commentators, etc. many thought he would do no good against elite contenders and now look at his accomplishments and people still won’t give him credit. I wonder if the same will happen to Jr. If he didn’t have the “Chavez” last name people would probably give him the nod.

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If he didn't have the "Chavez" last name he would've never gotten away with a 42-0 record without having fought a live body. He may or may not have what it takes (trying to be objective here).... but with the amount of coddling he's getting, I guess we'll never find out.

How will he fare against Zbik?

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

How will he fare against Zbik?

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How dare you..! Make such a suggestion!! :o

Zbik is the true champion of champions. The chosen one.