What would happen if froch vs Kessler 2 took place in USA?
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What would happen if froch vs Kessler 2 took place in USA?
IMO Froch learns from the previous outing, he's more measured like in the Abraham fight and prevails UD. Don't think he will make the same mistake twice and have a full on war!
Froch UD. Should have been the result of the first one, but only a few agree with me on that one.
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Originally Posted by ono
i agree dude, i thought froch won it clearly and kessler hardly landed a meaningful punch
I see a similar type of fight to the 1st. Kessler would have been well rested but Froch would have further miles added to his clock after wars with Johnson and Ward.
Froch took it to another level in the Abraham fight but he has problems dealing with someone with Kesslers strength. Carls used to being the tough guy in the rig but when he met Mikkel he was forced onto the backfoot and made to stay there. It wasnt the best of Mikkel but he still did enough to win even if the margins were abit wide. If an off form Kessler is good enough to take Carls zero I think a revitalised Kessler will be able to beat an older Froch if they rematch. Kessler UD.
Haha i wouldn't go that far. but i definitely reckon he won it.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
i agree dude, i thought froch won it clearly and kessler hardly landed a meaningful punch
I honestly don't think that was the best kess, his 1-2 just wasnt as sharp as it usually is and he still won the fight. If they meet again I see something very much similar to the first fight except with kess wining much more clearly. You have to think kess will have had a 1 year break in between while froch will most likely have been in grueling fights with johnson and ward.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Mikkel Kessler wasn't at his best either, he hasn't been the same since before the Joe Calzaghe fight. I really don't know how anyone had Carl Froch winning either, it was a closish fight but Mikkel Kessler still won a clear decision.
And i know punchstats don't always tell the whole story, but the punchstats agree with what i see. Mikkel Kessler was the aggressor landing more punches, where as Carl Froch was cautious landing one punch at a time mostly, until he upped it somewhat in the later rounds. Also Mikkel Kessler was able to rock/hurt Carl Froch, Mikkel Kessler never appeared hurt in the fight.
Kessler - Total Thrown: 765, Total Connects: 147 (19%)
Froch - Total Thrown: 546, Total Connects: 98 (18%)
Kessler won the first in my opinion, very hard to predict how he'll return though after the time out. As others said, Froch has grown and learnt from previous fights, and the activity in itself will be a huge bonus and boost. Especially if he won the super six, confidence would rocket.
Regardless of Kessler's inactivity and such I'm sure it'd be a close and hard to call fight. Would like to see it, Carl seems the hungry sort that that would love to get rid of the blemish on his record.
Personally, Kessler was for me the best super middleweight before his fight again Calzaghe. And even if most analyst find Kessler too predictable, I'm pretty sure 2011 will be a great year for him. So I'll go with Kessler by KO in the late round if he were to fight Froch again.
Froch wins a fairly close UD, something like 116-112, just like he should have last time.
Froch is certainly better than I gave him credit for but I think Kessler is a much tougher matchup for him than Abraham and he wins another clear UD.
I had Froch winning by a couple of rounds as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
I don't remember either fighter being hurt at all, but I could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
same result Froch loses only much quicker ko.
Kessler looked in trouble in the last round IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI don't remember either fighter being hurt at all, but I could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
If Kessler is in a good shape, I would say another UD over Froch in a competitive close fight.
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Originally Posted by ICB
youll have to show me where this froch being hurt business is, in fact show me when kessler lands a punch of any note (i actually think there is 1 hook in round 8 he lands, doesnt rock froch tho)
kessler is out on his feet in round 5
Im not debating this again i really haven't got the time or energy, you bring this up alot. And i've already showed you time and time again why i had Mikkel Kessler winning, i didn't think it was that debatable.
It was a closish fight but Mikkel Kessler edged it for the majority of the boxing fans, Carl Froch simply didn't work hard enough end of.
I know for a fact Froch has really worked on his swimming since the first fight , so he wins the return easily.
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
ill never tire of the swimming gag :)
You guys are such idiots honestly, i never said swimming makes you a good boxer. I said i do that as a part of my workout, yet you guys twist it round to anyway you feel like. Normally i just ignore it, but its pissing me off your doing Dark Lord Al, you repeat yourself all the time.
Get a new line and get off my back and worry about yourself, your constantly having digs at me first it was child thing years ago. Or im too young to appreciate old boxing or know anything about it, now this just fuck off mate seriously.
Take it easy mate. They're only joking, no need to throw a paddleQuote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Throw a paddle?Quote:
Originally Posted by onoTake it easy mate. They're only joking, no need to throw a paddleQuote:
Originally Posted by ICB
i dont repeat myself all the time ICB , i was serious about Froch swimming more for his fitness I spoke to him about it.
i dont repeat myself all the time ICB, I was serious about froch swimming more for his fitness I spoke to him about it.
He is pretty easy to wind up the "Wellfare Kid"
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Originally Posted by ICB
end of what?