In your opinion, who are the 5 best retired MMA fighters?
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In your opinion, who are the 5 best retired MMA fighters?
Bas, Frank Shamrock, Vovchanchyn, Rickson, Ivan "The Dragon" Dravinski (UFC 2010 CAF I had to retire, I got nothing for #5)
only ever heard of one of them:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain America
Chuck Liddell? Rickson & Royce Gracie? I thought Frank was still technically active.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain America
right i heard of liddell & gracie;DQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnChuck Liddell? Rickson & Royce Gracie? I thought Frank was still technically active.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain America
What was the 1 you'd heard of?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragoright i heard of liddell & gracie;DQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnChuck Liddell? Rickson & Royce Gracie? I thought Frank was still technically active.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain America
I knew Shamrock but I also knew Bas Rutten as well.
shamrock!
Frank retired a few months ago at a SteukeForce show, I wasn't sure if Liddel is retired or not (Dana says yes, again, but Chuck seems rather uncommitted to a definate answer).
Igor Vovchanchyn was a 5'8" 230lb pudgy Ukranian kickboxer. He had an amazing 32 fight win streak, that included 7 one-night 8-man tournaments, he was runner up in Pride's inaugural GP in 2000, retired with a 49-10-1,1 record. Also had 61-2 kickboxing record. Was basically the 0.5 beta release of Fedor
Frank Shamrock was the greatest UFC champion ever (in my opinion), he came to the UFC with a 14-7,1 record as a former King of Pancrase, he beat Kevin Jackson for the UFC LHW title and made four successful defenses, including Igor Zenvoviev (Extreme Fighting's champion) and Tito Ortiz. He retired as the UFC champion in 1999 due to a lack of competition.
Rickson Gracie was, according to Royce, the Gracie family champion and 10x better than himself. He had an MMA record of 11-0, winning Vale Tudo Japan: '94 and '95, he is also undefeated in BJJ, wrestling, Judo, and has one loss in Sambo (which he disputes due to a riles confusion), he claims a combined record of over 400-0 in all forms grappling. I think his "record" is inflated, but the man was phenominal
Bas Rutten was a former King of Pancrase and UFC HW champion. He opened his career 7-4 with losses to Funaki, Frank, and Ken Shamrock (2x), but he ended his career with an incredible 20 fight win streak. He avenged his Los to Funaki and Frank (2x), he was forced to retire due to injuries after Kevin Randleman for the UFC HW title.
Bas Rutten, Frank Shamrock, Chuck liddell, Royce Gracie, Tank Abbott!
Nicely said!Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan
have to check out some of his fights, is he related to ken?Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain America
Adopted brother, Bob Shamrock owned the Shamrock Ranch, for helping troubled boys. Both were adopted and trained by him
your joking! never knew thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain America
I'd have to say:
Rickson Gracie- though kind of padded, he had an undefeated MMA record and was a dominant force back in the day.
Marco Ruas- he never really got a chance to shine and retired too early, but was one of the first well rounded fighters in MMA.
Bas Rutten- Pancrase champ, UFC champ, hard hitter with an unorthodox submission game.
Chuck Liddell- unquestionably one of the most high profile fighters of modern MMA, he was one of the most dominant LHW fighters in the world.
Igor Vovchanchyn- one of the hardest hitters of all MMA, his career ended when his legendary fists became too damaged for him to continue
Ruas is a good pick! Completely forgot about "The King of the Streets"!
Frank,Chuck, Bas, Royce, Igor
Dan "The Beast" Severn, Shamrock Bros., Royce Gracie, Oleg Taktarov, Bas Rutten.
Shit, Dan Severn is still fighting at 52, so I guess I'll swap out for Lidell, until he retires.
I was looking at Forrest Griffin's record a while back and Dan Severn was one of his early fights.