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Angulo vs Quintana 154-Pound Showdown is in The Works? - Boxing News
Really good 154lb fight. Be interesting to see if Quintana can do what Cintron did. Since Carlos is a 154 fighter now, I'd consider this 2 top contenders in the division in a fairly even fight. Warrants a WBC title much more than Alvarez-Hatton IMO.
a few years back i'd give the advantage to Quintana, he has the skillset to beat Angulo, just mentally he's unpredictable, i don't think he's going to deal with Angulo's pressure and power and get stopped midway through the fightQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I felt the same with Cintron after watching him mentally crumble in a few fights, I felt he was a fighter that constantly doubted his ability to go 12 rounds when his opponent didn't budge at the weight of his punch. I was pleasently surprised to see him outbox Angulo for 12 rounds. Maybe Carlos will take a lesoon from that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
However, I should point out that I'm merely offering an alternative theory, and I agree Angulo stops him between the 6th & 8th Round.
I thought AA had visa problems?
Anyways, I'm not sure he will win this fight. Quintana is a vet. Angulo can apply pressure like P. Williams did and Quintana will pop Angulo whenever he's open. Then again, I do't think Williams have the KO power that Angulo have, and stopped Quintana early. A good crossroad fight.
Will love to see AA vs Alvarez. So I'm going with AA
in terms of technical ability Quintana is more well rounded and well better than Cintron, but Cintron has better power which makes up for it, if they were to fight i'd pick Quintana over Kermit, but against Angulo i'm not sure Carlos Quintana will be able to pull off the upset, i'd be rooting for him thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnI felt the same with Cintron after watching him mentally crumble in a few fights, I felt he was a fighter that constantly doubted his ability to go 12 rounds when his opponent didn't budge at the weight of his punch. I was pleasently surprised to see him outbox Angulo for 12 rounds. Maybe Carlos will take a lesoon from that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
However, I should point out that I'm merely offering an alternative theory, and I agree Angulo stops him between the 6th & 8th Round.
Two guys going in opposite directions if you ask me and I dont see that Quintana has the hurting shots or legs to keep and increasingly brutal inside fighter off of him over 12.....he'd have his moments early but I think Angulos punch selection is very underrated and he 'rolls' it nice when he gets you cornered.
I think A.A wins this. I like Quintana but he wont win this fight.
Quintana doesn't have the punch that Cintron does to keep Angulo off. He starts well I reckon before getting stopped in the middle rounds like he did against Cotto & Berto
Quintana gets steam rolled into submission.
Quintana has the style to beat Angulo but he doesn't have the chin or stamina. Angulo wears him down by the 5th.
I really dislike Angulo, I want JC Jr or Alvarez to take him out or even Cotto (whom I think will do a lot better being more of a boxer/puncher than a slugger)
JC Jr wouldn't last more than 6 rounds, if that, i'd love an Alvarez/Angulo fight, and if Alvarez won i'd be ecstaticQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Lyle & El Terrible, I'll take a combined sigbet with you two on Angulo in a Cotto v. Angulo fight. El Perro eats Cotto up and spits him out at this stage of Cotto's career. Problem is Bruce Trampler and Bob Arum are too good at what they do to let that fight happen because the risk ain't worth the reward.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesJC Jr wouldn't last more than 6 rounds, if that, i'd love an Alvarez/Angulo fight, and if Alvarez won i'd be ecstaticQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
For that matter, I'd take Angulo over Chavez Jr. and Alvarez too.
Don't get me wrong Angulo ain't the second coming, but he's a tough dude. To be clear, I'd favor Kirkland, Dzinziruk, Martinez, and Lara over Angulo.
i at least accept and IMO Cotto would school Angulo worse than Cintron did, as for the other part IMO Angulo beats Kirkland, he has the punch that Kirkland has always been open to, the straight right and a pretty damn good one at that, that's why i always felt Forrest would have whooped Kirkland but yea Dzinziruk and Martinez make Angulo look like a cab driverQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Lyle & El Terrible, I'll take a combined sigbet with you two on Angulo in a Cotto v. Angulo fight. El Perro eats Cotto up and spits him out at this stage of Cotto's career. Problem is Bruce Trampler and Bob Arum are too good at what they do to let that fight happen because the risk ain't worth the reward.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesJC Jr wouldn't last more than 6 rounds, if that, i'd love an Alvarez/Angulo fight, and if Alvarez won i'd be ecstaticQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
For that matter, I'd take Angulo over Chavez Jr. and Alvarez too.
Don't get me wrong Angulo ain't the second coming, but he's a tough dude. To be clear, I'd favor Kirkland, Dzinziruk, Martinez, and Lara over Angulo.
Quintana certainly has the skills... but not the punch. Also, I'm not sure what his mentality is at this point. I saw him on TV the other day, and he sounds like he's getting ready to wrap up his career. With that kind of mentality, it would be an uphill climb against a brawler like Angulo.
Saw some comments in the thread about JCC Jr.'s chances. Again, I'd L-O-O-O-O-V-V-V-V-E-E-E-E nothing more than seeing JCC Jr. in against a live body.... so he can get his coddled ass kicked all the way back to his papa's house.
I always thought Angulo was a very limited boxer....decent enough "fighter" but Alvarez, JC Jr, and Cotto all beat him IMO.
Because he's not as good as his dad Chavez is rather underatted I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesJC Jr wouldn't last more than 6 rounds, if that, i'd love an Alvarez/Angulo fight, and if Alvarez won i'd be ecstaticQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I got a sneaky feeling he might do better than people think. Not saying he would win, but he might cause Angulo some problems. His dominant win over Duddy shows he's improving.
Not only is JC Jr. bigger than Angulo (JC has fought at higher weight classes) his hands are faster, perhaps more powerful, and he's better skilled as a boxer.
Quintana COULD pull off this upset, but he's trending towards not pulling it off. The Quintana that beat Paul Williams would completely school Angulo.
Angulo is a less dynamic version of Fernando Vargas.
Lyle,Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
You may hate Angulo, but he'd break Chavez Jr. down. The argument is irrelevant anyway because Chavez Jr. isn't being put in that tough anytime soon. Let's be honest.
Sig bet on this fight?
I'm not doing a sig bet on this fight because I think Quintana is past it and although he may have a little success vs Angulo but his stamina and chin will let him down.