Both camps are in mild talks according the the net.
What would be the possible outcomes???
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Both camps are in mild talks according the the net.
What would be the possible outcomes???
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If it would happen, I think Bute would Ko Kessler late in the fight
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a prime kessler would beat bute, kessler is over the hill tho so it could be close
Good fight. I'd probably lean towards bute.
Why do you say that? What did a prime Kessler do?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
he was fighting the other champions in the division, trying to unify
not fighting cans like magee, jesse brinkley and miranda
also kessler managed to last 12 with andrade without the help of a referee
You just put Bute down without saying what Kessler has done other than that he unified...Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Prior to Super Six, "in his prime," his biggest win was over Andrade. Unify? He unified by fighting 5'9, 35 year old Marcus Breyer. Don't forget Kessler fought cans too: Sartison, Haussler and Perdomo in a row prior to the Super Six.
Kessler's biggest win was over Froch. Fact.
Kessler's been in with better competition, but he has lost every time he stepped up, other than in the Froch fight, and that was very close.
Why do you think Bute went from HBO to Showtime? Answer: In order to fight the guys in the Super Six.
im not quite sure how beyers height comes in to itQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratYou just put Bute down without saying what Kessler has done other than that he unified...Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Prior to Super Six, "in his prime," his biggest win was over Andrade. Unify? He unified by fighting 5'9, 35 year old Marcus Breyer. Don't forget Kessler fought cans too: Sartison, Haussler and Perdomo in a row prior to the Super Six.
Kessler's biggest win was over Froch. Fact.
Kessler's been in with better competition, but he has lost every time he stepped up, other than in the Froch fight, and that was very close.
Why do you think Bute went from HBO to Showtime? Answer: In order to fight the guys in the Super Six.
and he lost to calzaghe in joes background...and was hardly outclassed
2nd time again away from home were he was smashed up by wards forehead
bute on the otherhand doesnt leave canada and this saved him in the andrade fight
You still haven't said anything about what Kessler actually did in his prime other than lose to Calzaghe. And Calzaghe blew him out of the water, don't kid yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonim not quite sure how beyers height comes in to itQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratYou just put Bute down without saying what Kessler has done other than that he unified...Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Prior to Super Six, "in his prime," his biggest win was over Andrade. Unify? He unified by fighting 5'9, 35 year old Marcus Breyer. Don't forget Kessler fought cans too: Sartison, Haussler and Perdomo in a row prior to the Super Six.
Kessler's biggest win was over Froch. Fact.
Kessler's been in with better competition, but he has lost every time he stepped up, other than in the Froch fight, and that was very close.
Why do you think Bute went from HBO to Showtime? Answer: In order to fight the guys in the Super Six.
and he lost to calzaghe in joes background...and was hardly outclassed
2nd time again away from home were he was smashed up by wards forehead
bute on the otherhand doesnt leave canada and this saved him in the andrade fight
Kessler's best win was when he was not in his prime and against Froch. Fact. His best win in his prime was against Andrade.
My point about Beyer was that the unification with him wasn't impressive.
Did you miss the second Andrade fight? Bute fought him again and knocked Andrade out with a body shot. Leaving nothing to guess that time. It's on youtube. He also dominated Bika better than Ward.
I feel like Kessler is super overrated on these boards because of his loss against Calzaghe. I like Kessler, he's a class act outside the ring, and a great fighter in it. But, at the end of the day his biggest win was a close one against Froch.
Kessler to face Bute in Oct.
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Unless his eye injury starts to trouble again, then Kessler will return to the ring in june for a fight in Denmark, before he in October or November are going to fight Lucien Bute.
In a week the dane will be in Montreal, when Bute are facing Brian Magee. They are hoping to come to an agreement for a fight in October.
- I’m flying to Canada with my promotor Kalle Saurland to see Bute in a fight, my plan is to box in june and it would be great if we could make something happend with Bute, says Mikkel Kessler.
Promoter Kalle Sauerland is optimistic
- Bute want to meet Kessler, and Kessler want to meet Bute. They have invited us to Canada to talk about it, so it’s looking real good, says Kalle Sauerland.
There have been some disagreement in the past about who’ll the rights to fight the winner of the Super Six but a fight between Kessler and Bute would settle that and the looser of the fight could meet the looser of the Super Six final.
- I’m the WBC Champion Emeritus, and I want to prove myself against the best. Bute is a big name, and it would be a big fight not just for the fans in Denmark and Canada – but in the whole world. I’m looking forward to see him fight the 19th of marts, says Kessler
Saurland have several possible opponents for the fight in june, but right now are the energy used to make the Bute-fight happened.
- taken from Sporten.dk.
Code: Kessler klar til Bute - Boksning
Kessler just had a good outing against Froch, what makes you think he is over the hill?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Froch shouldn't have shown Kessler respect, froch should have wanted to punch Kessler but didn't cos he had his brain outside the ring
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratWhy do you say that? What did a prime Kessler do?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Kessler's still in his very good years, got out from an excellent bout with Froch and is about to tune up. Still, I think Bute is fast and technical enough to get that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiccy2112AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratWhy do you say that? What did a prime Kessler do?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
I'm all for Bute for that fight.
Still, Bute never fought a puncher like Kessler, it'll be interesting to see if Kessler will be able to land something big.
But I think Kessler will have hard time dealing with a out-boxing specialist like Bute. I honestly believe Lucian got the strongest straight of the super-middleweight, and his liver blow is devastating. I wonder how Kessler will deal with this if the fight last for more than 5 round.
Go check Bute-Andrade II. Kessler is to slow for Bute. Bute UD 120-108! - TKO - ko. anything you want. Kessler can't move is feet, Bute will dominate him, that's what i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Right and remember Kessler had a tough time dealing with Calzaghe's body shot in the 6th round, I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eloking
I was soo convinced that Kess would dominate the SMW div and he would beat Joe and Ward. Something happend to him it was like he lost hunger/desire to fight.
At this stage and the way he has last performed, it kills me to say it but I think "Booty" sparks him out. :(
Are we talking about that Andrades that took the beating of his live from that Kessler? :P (if you didn't check that one, it's almost painful to watch)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rocket
Ha? I didn't see that one. Gonna check this out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
I agree. I was pretty sure Kessler would dominate the SMW division before he fought again Calzaghe. I still believe that lost devastated him and his confidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Kessler would be his toughest opponent to date. Who compared Kesslers speed to Andrade? Thats ridiculous, you must not have seen Kessler completely dominated Andrade. I'd still favor Bute slightly for his power. As far as speed and boxing ability, I dont think they are that far apart.
Completely agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest