Does anyone else think Zab Judah could beat Khan and Bradley?

I really do think he can beat these two. Judah is a big puncher at 140 and has plenty of speed which are 2 things I think Khan would really struggle with, I know Khan took Maidanas punches but to be fair Maidana isn't as good a finisher as Judah when he has his man hurt and I also think Judah can outbox Bradley if his head is right too. The biggest mistake Zab made was moving upto 147. He is one of the most natural 140 fighters I have ever seen and of the fighters who could make 140 now barring Pacquiao I think Judah could beat all of them.

Am I on my own in thinking this??

This new version of Judah with Pernell at his side is improved but what happens when he gets hit on the chin and things to do go his way, he will revert to type and lose. I think he is very dangerous however and think both Bradley and Khan will be wise to avoid him until he implodes himself.

i really do not rate Bradley at all , he will lose soon enough , not sure if Judah has enough left however.

No and nope. We shouldn't get to carried away with this 'reinvention' of Zab. Pernell may let him wear his t- shirt and borrow the car but Zab sure as shit is no Whitaker. Not even close.

Will he be wearing a helmet?

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I don't think he can even beat Maidana or Ortiz.

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I don't think he can even beat Maidana or Ortiz.

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well Khan himself barely beat Maidana, IMO the only way Judah wins against either is if he scores some lucky punch which i doubt he would

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No.

I don't think he can even beat Maidana or Ortiz.

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well Khan himself barely beat Maidana, IMO the only way Judah wins against either is if he scores some lucky punch which i doubt he would

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Barely huh. Khan was way ahead of the scorecards until that huge punch he took somewhere in late rounds which btw he didn't kiss the canvas.

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No.

I don't think he can even beat Maidana or Ortiz.

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well Khan himself barely beat Maidana, IMO the only way Judah wins against either is if he scores some lucky punch which i doubt he would

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Barely huh. Khan was way ahead of the scorecards until that huge punch he took somewhere in late rounds which btw he didn't kiss the canvas.

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Yes Barely... Just like Bute Barely got past Andrade and Dirrell barely got past Abraham.

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No.

I don't think he can even beat Maidana or Ortiz.

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well Khan himself barely beat Maidana, IMO the only way Judah wins against either is if he scores some lucky punch which i doubt he would

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Barely huh. Khan was way ahead of the scorecards until that huge punch he took somewhere in late rounds which btw he didn't kiss the canvas.

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there wouldn't be so much talk of a possible rematch if it wasn't close, Khan BARELY beat Maidana, the fact that he landed what looked like a liver shot that badly hurt Maidana in the first and yet was almost killed in the later rounds lets you know how tough of a fight it was for Khan

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No.

I don't think he can even beat Maidana or Ortiz.

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well Khan himself barely beat Maidana, IMO the only way Judah wins against either is if he scores some lucky punch which i doubt he would

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Barely huh. Khan was way ahead of the scorecards until that huge punch he took somewhere in late rounds which btw he didn't kiss the canvas.

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there wouldn't be so much talk of a possible rematch if it wasn't close, Khan BARELY beat Maidana, the fact that he landed what looked like a liver shot that badly hurt Maidana in the first and yet was almost killed in the later rounds lets you know how tough of a fight it was for Khan

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Exactly. The fact Maidana didn't know how to finish when he had his man hurt cost him the fight. Khan does not have a good chin like some have tried to make out after his fight with Maidana it was due to the fact that Maidana didn't know how to finish the job and kept looking for the same shot that hurt Khan rather than mixing it up and making Khan unable to run away with his hands up by attacking the body and thus dropping his hands.

did you forget how Judah was handled by Mathysse not that long ago? He didnt even look that great on offense against Mabuza, it was just that one punch, . He has good reflexes and defence but does not throw enough punches to beat the top guys . Both Bradley and Khan ko him imo.

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did you forget how Judah was handled by Mathysse not that long ago? He didnt even look that great on offense against Mabuza, it was just that one punch, . He has good reflexes and defence but does not throw enough punches to beat the top guys . Both Bradley and Khan ko him imo.

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I don't feel Bradley has the power to KO him. He may pull out of the fight because of Zab's weakness' his mental state is his biggest and if things start to go wrong he doesn't handle them well mentally.

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Will he be wearing a helmet?

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With a chin strap and a blast shield

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Will he be wearing a helmet?

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With a chin strap and a blast shield

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He'd need one against Bradley who dives head first into exchanges.

Zab is done I didn't see his fight but in the mathhyse outing he still looked done as ever, he's just not mentally tough enough. Being mental weak against bradley means your fucked, and well amir might be somewhat chinny but I think he jacks zab. To answer the question no to both.

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This new version of Judah with Pernell at his side is improved but what happens when he gets hit on the chin and things to do go his way, he will revert to type and lose. I think he is very dangerous however and think both Bradley and Khan will be wise to avoid him until he implodes himself.

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He got rocked against Mabuza a bit in one round, and he reacted pretty good. He went into retreat mode and didnt get tagged again for the rest of the round.

I must be the only Judah fan along with RJJ Tszyu, its all good haters gon hate.

He'd have a good chance at beating Bradley.

First of all, no. Judah would lose to both. Bradley is too hungry and determined and Khan has too much skill. Better chance against Khan.

i think he would beat khan, idk about bradley tho, hes never dealt with pressure well, but bradley has been dropped by lighter punchers before

Plus Bradley is tiny and not a big puncher himself.

I dont know about Kahn but Id buy the fight and dont buy many these days.

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

I really do think he can beat these two. Judah is a big puncher at 140 and has plenty of speed which are 2 things I think Khan would really struggle with, I know Khan took Maidanas punches but to be fair Maidana isn't as good a finisher as Judah when he has his man hurt and I also think Judah can outbox Bradley if his head is right too. The biggest mistake Zab made was moving upto 147. He is one of the most natural 140 fighters I have ever seen and of the fighters who could make 140 now barring Pacquiao I think Judah could beat all of them.

Am I on my own in thinking this??

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Yeah became quite clear Zab made a mistake moving to 147 when he became the undisputed Welterweight champion. What was he thinking

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I really do think he can beat these two. Judah is a big puncher at 140 and has plenty of speed which are 2 things I think Khan would really struggle with, I know Khan took Maidanas punches but to be fair Maidana isn't as good a finisher as Judah when he has his man hurt and I also think Judah can outbox Bradley if his head is right too. The biggest mistake Zab made was moving upto 147. He is one of the most natural 140 fighters I have ever seen and of the fighters who could make 140 now barring Pacquiao I think Judah could beat all of them.

Am I on my own in thinking this??

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Yeah became quite clear Zab made a mistake moving to 147 when he became the undisputed Welterweight champion. What was he thinking

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The division was quite weak when he did that though. He was clearly punching above his weight when he fought Baldomir and Clottey. The bigger well skilled 147 fighter were too big for him.

Zab looked easy to hit in his last fight although the KO showes he still has power.

He will get another big fight soon as he is still a name.

About 5 or six years ago I would have tipped Zab to beat pretty much anyone at 140.

Zabs always had great skills and power it's just other things that have let him down. I'd like to think zab could beat both especially khan but it's about what he has left now.

Zab is an underachiever. I think he tends to be gun shy, maybe due to his chin. If Zab had Pacquiaos chin, heart and stamina he could beat them all. He may have beaten Floyd if he did.

Um yeah if he had all that he would be a completely different fighter.