Possible outcomes? I always thought froch would fight lacy until lacy disappeared and disappointed. Always wondered how these fights would play out
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Possible outcomes? I always thought froch would fight lacy until lacy disappeared and disappointed. Always wondered how these fights would play out
Lacy is completely finished sadly, even Manfredo would destroy him in a rematch.
Miranda is far too open and no longer believes he can win. Froch would stop him in an entertaining fight.
Cleverly could be a real talent, but it's too soon for him to be going after a world class talent like Froch. Let him develop first.
Cleverely is a big boy though and would have a definite size advantage if/when they ever fought. A couple years from now whose to say how it would go, but right now obviously Froch is a class above the rest of the domestic lot, Cleverly, Groves and De Gale etc.
I don't think froch has got long left to b honest, I could b wrong and even tho he been in wars it hasn't had any effect on him one bit but he is almost 34 and most super middles like Americans are really young, I fear that if froch ever fights cleverly it will b because froch is over the hill to make up and comers look good against
is this a windup thread
carl froch vs miranda or lacy :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
while were at it how about we start a carl froch vs kid thunder debate
I think Glenn Johnson is a very tough fight for anyone in the Super 6 especially Froch who was dropped by Taylor.
Froch vs Johnson should be a great fight.
Is Froch finaly going to be on SKY sports???
Probably not as they have Amir and Haye for their bollock PPV.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Froch could beat all three of them in the same night. Hell, he could probably beat all three of them at the same time... He's going to knock out Johnson too.
Froch should be arrested if he ever fights Lacy, he'd KO Miranda in 2, and Cleverly is garbage
Cleverly is actually a world class fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Cleverly is just another hometown fighter with a padded record who's finally going to take on a "recognized" name, and well i don't really rate Braehmer too highly either, and in order to be WORLD CLASS you have to have beaten world class opposition, something neither Cleverly nor Braehmer have even come close to doingQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterCleverly is actually a world class fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Since when? He has relatively little power, shitty defense, and has fought no one of note. He might become a world class fighter (though I doubt it), but he isn't one right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterCleverly is actually a world class fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Bit harsh. He has been moved on relatively quickly and he is only 22. Note my use of the word 'relatively'. He has had a fair few fights that were good challenges at that particular stage of his career. I agree that he isn't world class yet though - but I think he will prove to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesCleverly is just another hometown fighter with a padded record who's finally going to take on a "recognized" name, and well i don't really rate Braehmer too highly either, and in order to be WORLD CLASS you have to have beaten world class opposition, something neither Cleverly nor Braehmer have even come close to doingQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterCleverly is actually a world class fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Lacy has no business in a ring anymore.
He's young and I'm sure he made some money.
He should just go back to school and work on a career.
Froch-Miranda would be good for about 2 rds until Froch would spark him out.
You could have said the same thing about Joe Galzaghe and he proved he was world class. It is the way he has beaten the opposition that I make the claim, he has beaten good fighters with complete ease.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanBit harsh. He has been moved on relatively quickly and he is only 22. Note my use of the word 'relatively'. He has had a fair few fights that were good challenges at that particular stage of his career. I agree that he isn't world class yet though - but I think he will prove to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesCleverly is just another hometown fighter with a padded record who's finally going to take on a "recognized" name, and well i don't really rate Braehmer too highly either, and in order to be WORLD CLASS you have to have beaten world class opposition, something neither Cleverly nor Braehmer have even come close to doingQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterCleverly is actually a world class fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Really doubt that man. Johnson is a hard days night for anyone, and I think he can upset Froch. He sure as hell won't be stopped by Froch, Tavourous Cloud hurt Johnson but he could not stop him and Cloud is a beast of a fighter. Much bigger than Froch and hits a good deal harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Froch has really become quite a good top fighter, very unorthodox and skilled.
I'm a huge fan of Johnson and to be honest I'd like nothing more than to see him win the Super 6 and make some quick money before retiring. But, and I have said this in a couple of threads now, Froch is at the top of his game at the moment (he's a top 10 P4P fighter IMO) and Johnson has to get old sometime. Fighting at 168, something I believe he hadn't done in something like ten years before the Green fight, is going to catch up to him too. I think both those things happen in the Froch fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkReally doubt that man. Johnson is a hard days night for anyone, and I think he can upset Froch. He sure as hell won't be stopped by Froch, Tavourous Cloud hurt Johnson but he could not stop him and Cloud is a beast of a fighter. Much bigger than Froch and hits a good deal harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Froch has really become quite a good top fighter, very unorthodox and skilled.
Froch would beat the crap outta all of those guys. And by lacy I hope we ain't talkin Jeff . Better pray there's another brother that can fight, Jeff couldn't beat some bantomweights. I'd pick mares to beat his ass! Now as far as glen Johnson I dunno. Depends on which Johnson shows. I can see how someone could pick Carl to ko his ass though. People think I'm crazy but I think any of these guys in this whole division would have trouble with cloud . Maybe I smoke too much but the fights I've seen the guy has been no joke.
Froch does seem to be peaking lately with his win over Abraham, and what probably shoulda been a close win over Kessler, but I think your giving him too much credit. Wasn't long ago he was trailing against Taylor til he knocked him out in the last round, and that was quite a close fight he had with a shop worn Kessler.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI'm a huge fan of Johnson and to be honest I'd like nothing more than to see him win the Super 6 and make some quick money before retiring. But, and I have said this in a couple of threads now, Froch is at the top of his game at the moment (he's a top 10 P4P fighter IMO) and Johnson has to get old sometime. Fighting at 168, something I believe he hadn't done in something like ten years before the Green fight, is going to catch up to him too. I think both those things happen in the Froch fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkReally doubt that man. Johnson is a hard days night for anyone, and I think he can upset Froch. He sure as hell won't be stopped by Froch, Tavourous Cloud hurt Johnson but he could not stop him and Cloud is a beast of a fighter. Much bigger than Froch and hits a good deal harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Froch has really become quite a good top fighter, very unorthodox and skilled.
Froch should be the favorite against Johnson, but I think Johnson can put the pressure on him and wear him down.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesCleverly is just another hometown fighter with a padded record who's finally going to take on a "recognized" name, and well i don't really rate Braehmer too highly either, and in order to be WORLD CLASS you have to have beaten world class opposition, something neither Cleverly nor Braehmer have even come close to doingQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterCleverly is actually a world class fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Cleverly is a prospect
he hasnt got to the point in his career where he can be considered to have a padded record because he has only just started boxing full time
he has excelled at the level he has fought at and couldnt have been expected to fight at any higher level considering his age experience and situation, it seems now he will start mixing it with better fighters
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Originally Posted by CFHI'm a huge fan of Johnson and to be honest I'd like nothing more than to see him win the Super 6 and make some quick money before retiring. But, and I have said this in a couple of threads now, Froch is at the top of his game at the moment (he's a top 10 P4P fighter IMO) and Johnson has to get old sometime. Fighting at 168, something I believe he hadn't done in something like ten years before the Green fight, is going to catch up to him too. I think both those things happen in the Froch fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkReally doubt that man. Johnson is a hard days night for anyone, and I think he can upset Froch. He sure as hell won't be stopped by Froch, Tavourous Cloud hurt Johnson but he could not stop him and Cloud is a beast of a fighter. Much bigger than Froch and hits a good deal harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Froch has really become quite a good top fighter, very unorthodox and skilled.
Big call there CFH. KOing Johnson would be a big statement. I believe Froch will always have trouble with fast boxers like Dirrell and Taylor. I see Johnson as a tougher assignment in retrospect than Abraham was, but Froch once again passing the test with flying colors. A KO though would be huge.