Darke and Watt

I have just had the pleasure of watching a top class bill on Sky , was exciting and good fun with some good action.
However in my opinion it is time that Ian Darke and Jim Watt are put out to pasture.
They dont commentate on the fights as they are happening they just quote nonsence and jabber on to each other.
They contradict themselves all through the fights , and it is waring thin .
All in all was a good night of boxing with the exception of these two clowns.
I would like to hear other Sky viewers views on this matter.

Also having watched this bill i did think Katsidis moving up to LWW for a fight with Maidana would be a good matchup.

Prime example was when they were watching Malignaggi.

First two rounds: "he seems to have lost his speed and his skill..."

Few rounds later: "his new coaches have are utilising his qualities, he is boxing very well..."

I'm paraphrasing here but it was something along those lines. It's fucking embarrassing. If you have an opinion, at least stick to it.

watt looking quite big there to be a former lightweight champion. did you see the intrview they gave with lennox Lewis? he never lost a fight on sky. blahblah blah. watt was just waiting to quip something ass-kissin' there. how about sayin somethin unique for a change?

Watt is guaranteed to use this line in EVERY fight too.

"His corner should be looking to pull him out of there..."

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never acually seen a Watt commentary but saw a few interviews and he seems to try to go for the drama when it is not really necessary.

Watt alwys does my head in but I like Darke.

When he was teamed up with Glen in the 90s was the best tv team IMO.

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Originally Posted by porkypara

Watt alwys does my head in but I like Darke.

When he was teamed up with Glen in the 90s was the best tv team IMO.

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Yep agreed on both counts

Agree on Watt. So irritating. I like Darke though, his voice creates atmosphere. He isn't an out and out boxing man though so I don't expect him to be an expert.

Darke is ok, but Watt basically decides who's winning a fight at the opening bell & sticks with it from there or does his best to make sure they win on 'his card'. Plus he doesn't half want EVERY fight stopped at the slightest excuse. Admittedly there are some fights where I can see his point (imo both Pac-Cotto & PBF-Mosley should have been stopped at about 8th-10th rounds as it was clear neither was going to win, weren't in the fight & they just took unnecessary punishment), but a fight like the Katsidis-Guerrero fight, I never felt Katsidis was out of it, even as he fell further behind.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Darke is ok, but Watt basically decides who's winning a fight at the opening bell & sticks with it from there or does his best to make sure they win on 'his card'. Plus he doesn't half want EVERY fight stopped at the slightest excuse. Admittedly there are some fights where I can see his point (imo both Pac-Cotto & PBF-Mosley should have been stopped at about 8th-10th rounds as it was clear neither was going to win, weren't in the fight & they just took unnecessary punishment), but a fight like the Katsidis-Guerrero fight, I never felt Katsidis was out of it, even as he fell further behind.

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That made me laugh! ;D So true

Im nt saying i dislike Darke so much as he just doesnt call the fight punch for punch , he just fucking talks about bullshit.

Darke does talk some crap, but it wouldn't be teh say without him. My great memories of fights on SKY on inlvolve Darke & McCrory

For me the best guy for the job is Jim Rosenthal he did the Tommy Hearns v Duran , Hearns v Roldan and Andries v Hearns in the uk , he was great , calling the fight punch for punch.
Jim also did radio so you have to call it right.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

For me the best guy for the job is Jim Rosenthal he did the Tommy Hearns v Duran , Hearns v Roldan and Andries v Hearns in the uk , he was great , calling the fight punch for punch.
Jim also did radio so you have to call it right.

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Yeah, but it's not hard to call a fight if it's one bloke administering a heavy beating to another is it ;D

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

For me the best guy for the job is Jim Rosenthal he did the Tommy Hearns v Duran , Hearns v Roldan and Andries v Hearns in the uk , he was great , calling the fight punch for punch.
Jim also did radio so you have to call it right.

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Yeah, but it's not hard to call a fight if it's one bloke administering a heavy beating to another is it ;D

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Roldan v Hearns was give and take while it lasted;D

I've complained about Jim scoring for his favourite and trying to tally his score with the HBO guys over the years, but I still like him. He's been calling fights now for decades. Anyone doing it that long is gonna have plenty of dodgy nights.

At the end of Morales-Maidana he said he was scoring for Morales with his heart. ;D At least he admitted the bias.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

For me the best guy for the job is Jim Rosenthal he did the Tommy Hearns v Duran , Hearns v Roldan and Andries v Hearns in the uk , he was great , calling the fight punch for punch.
Jim also did radio so you have to call it right.

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Yeah, but it's not hard to call a fight if it's one bloke administering a heavy beating to another is it ;D

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Roldan v Hearns was give and take while it lasted;D

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As in Hearns giving & Roldan taking? ;D

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Darke does talk some crap, but it wouldn't be teh say without him. My great memories of fights on SKY on inlvolve Darke & McCrory

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Yea agree with this. The two of them were the dream team back in the day.

Darke was also top notch when commentating on the live Footy on Sky, was always using boxing analogies, top quality :)

Watt is a twat.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Darke is ok, but Watt basically decides who's winning a fight at the opening bell & sticks with it from there or does his best to make sure they win on 'his card'. Plus he doesn't half want EVERY fight stopped at the slightest excuse. Admittedly there are some fights where I can see his point (imo both Pac-Cotto & PBF-Mosley should have been stopped at about 8th-10th rounds as it was clear neither was going to win, weren't in the fight & they just took unnecessary punishment), but a fight like the Katsidis-Guerrero fight, I never felt Katsidis was out of it, even as he fell further behind.

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That made me laugh! ;D So true

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I think British commentators on the whole seem worse than the Americans when it comes to the 'finding a theme early and sticking to it' thing. Watt is the worst for this though. A few good jabs land in round 1 from a fighter and you can be sure that even in round 12 we will be hearing about how the jab has controlled the fight etc.
On the other hand, HBO in particular annoy me by changing theme TOO easily. Like one guy is getting smashed up bad, then lands one or two punches and they go mad 'HERE COMES FIGHTER X! FIGHTING HIS WAY BACK INTO IT!' and start talking straight away like its been a back and forth fight. :lickish::cool::-\:-X

As long as we don't have to listen to Duke McKenzie it's all good

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As long as we don't have to listen to Duke McKenzie it's all good

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Oi, thats my dad you're talking about.

Watt is probably past his prime and should be put to pasture.

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Originally Posted by Master

Watt is probably past his prime and should be put to pasture.

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Are you saying his corner should be thinking about getting him out of there? :)

Jim Watt is an expert after the event !

Ian Darke left Sky to commentate on Premier League games for the US market, I didn't realise that e had been retained for the boxing until Sunday Morning.

I prefer John Rawling, but Darke's OK. It's probably time Jim Watt retired though, not that I'm sure who should replace him. I quite liked John Thaxton on the one fight I heard him on ITV4 (?).

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Originally Posted by GuyIncognito76

Ian Darke left Sky to commentate on Premier League games for the US market, I didn't realise that e had been retained for the boxing until Sunday Morning.

I prefer John Rawling, but Darke's OK. It's probably time Jim Watt retired though, not that I'm sure who should replace him. I quite liked John Thaxton on the one fight I heard him on ITV4 (?).

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I want someone to call the fight as it happens punch for punch , they can talk crap between rounds , most pundits just fucking witter on .

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Originally Posted by Master

Watt is probably past his prime and should be put to pasture.

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Are you saying his corner should be thinking about getting him out of there? :)

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No he's saying that Jim is looking far too negative Ryan, he's not doing the things he's supposed to be doing.

In a whiny Scottish accent of course.