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I haven't seen the fight, but supposedly a washed up Erik Morales deserved to beat Marcos Maidana ? i've never really thought much of Marcos Maidana's skills, but he is a heck of a tough fighter.
So was Erik Morales robbed out of another win like against David Diaz ?
No robbery IMO. Could have gone either way by a point and a draw wouldn't have been an unfair shout for me. Not quite sure what this says about the 140 division. Morales still throws beautiful faints and has some lovely combination punching still too. Surprised the hell out of me I was sure he would get smoked no problem. Eatin my words right now as we speak, will some hot sauce.
Robbery? What a surprise (:rolleyes:)
Maidana won a close-ish fight fair and square. I had it about 8-4 Maidana. Some close swing rounds though.
I've been hearing Erik Morales won 8 rounds to 4, but it probably will be alot closer when i see it. Was it a good fight action wise ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Yes it was. Anyone scoring it 8-4 for Morales did so with rose-tinted glasses for the old boy. That's a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI've been hearing Erik Morales won 8 rounds to 4, but it probably will be alot closer when i see it. Was it a good fight action wise ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
If Morales won, he did so by the skin of his teeth. But i seriously disagree with Morales winning.
i think 8-4 Maidana is ridiculous as well, i had Morales winning by one round so easily could see it a draw or Maidana winning a very close decision due to him winning the last 2 rounds, either way Morales should hold his head up high and know that he showed why he'll go down as one of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport
Maidana won the fight some of the rounds were close but Maidana just did enough to win them imo. Morales put up a hell of a fight even fighting with more or less 1 eye from round 1 onwards due to swelling.
I didn't score it round by round. I generally felt is was about 8-4 Maidana.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
With just the one viewing - I can clearly remember thinking Maidana definitively won rounds - 1,3,9,11,12. Morales definitively won round 8.
That's 5 rounds to 1 to Maidana. The other six rounds were 50/50 or Morales rounds. So the only way Morales won the fight is if you favour him in all the close rounds. That's what the SKY commentators did ;)
I correct u all!!! Morales lost a close decision with one eye????? Come on he deserves a rematch
Cunts
i personally thought that Morales won the 3rd, i had Maidana winning rounds 1 and 2, then he fizzled out a bit from the 5th till the 8th and yea i had Morales taking a clean sweep of those roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterI didn't score it round by round. I generally felt is was about 8-4 Maidana.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
With just the one viewing - I can clearly remember thinking Maidana definitively won rounds - 1,3,9,11,12. Morales definitively won round 8.
That's 5 rounds to 1 to Maidana. The other six rounds were 50/50 or Morales rounds. So the only way Morales won the fight is if you favour him in all the close rounds. That's what the SKY commentators did ;)
Funny old game this scoring lark. I'm not sure Maidana clearly won the 2nd. I'm certain Maidana didn't lose all through 5-8 (well maybe if they were close). He definitely lost 8. But either 6 or 7 i'm sure Maidana bossed the majority of the round before Morales finished with an eye catching last 30 secs. I'm sure of this because I laughed when the commentator said - "a Morales round"Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi personally thought that Morales won the 3rd, i had Maidana winning rounds 1 and 2, then he fizzled out a bit from the 5th till the 8th and yea i had Morales taking a clean sweep of those roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterI didn't score it round by round. I generally felt is was about 8-4 Maidana.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
With just the one viewing - I can clearly remember thinking Maidana definitively won rounds - 1,3,9,11,12. Morales definitively won round 8.
That's 5 rounds to 1 to Maidana. The other six rounds were 50/50 or Morales rounds. So the only way Morales won the fight is if you favour him in all the close rounds. That's what the SKY commentators did ;)
When Morales lost the last two rounds I figured he would get a draw, because I had him up by two after ten, which suprised me. I hadn't been keeping a round by round score but I thought Morales was winning fairly clearly so I was suprised to find I had him only up two.
I didn't score it RBR either, but I think it was probably about 7-5 to Maidana. It was the best version of Morales we have seen for a long time, but still a complete shadow.
Morales in a close fight. Erik preserved his legs which is something I thought he could not do and it was pretty obvious to me that Maidana did not prepare. He was breathing out of his mouth by round three.
i'm sure we can agree it was a very close fight, that it could have gone either way, and merits a rematchQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterFunny old game this scoring lark. I'm not sure Maidana clearly won the 2nd. I'm certain Maidana didn't lose all through 5-8 (well maybe if they were close). He definitely lost 8. But either 6 or 7 i'm sure Maidana bossed the majority of the round before Morales finished with an eye catching last 30 secs. I'm sure of this because I laughed when the commentator said - "a Morales round"Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi personally thought that Morales won the 3rd, i had Maidana winning rounds 1 and 2, then he fizzled out a bit from the 5th till the 8th and yea i had Morales taking a clean sweep of those roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterI didn't score it round by round. I generally felt is was about 8-4 Maidana.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
With just the one viewing - I can clearly remember thinking Maidana definitively won rounds - 1,3,9,11,12. Morales definitively won round 8.
That's 5 rounds to 1 to Maidana. The other six rounds were 50/50 or Morales rounds. So the only way Morales won the fight is if you favour him in all the close rounds. That's what the SKY commentators did ;)
I had Morales winning a close fight. I wouldn't say robbery though! It was nice to see the old boy holding his own in a fight I thought he was going to get destroyed in!
Maidana imo is really not that good a fighter . All his hype stems off khans people wanting everyone to believe he decent , and that he stopped Ortiz who is still a semi prospect his damn self . Ortiz quitting was a fault in Ortiz not this so called greatness of maidana . Hell dude was getting bombed on and bouncing up and down off the canvas in that fight really. If maidana catches you kinda like edison Miranda then it's problems . But other than that he's pretty average in some areas below that. E morales gave you problems ?????!!!! Not good
As one of the commentators could not stop saying, Maidana was 'old mann'ed'. Quite embarrassing for him, really, with Erik way past his prime and having come out of retirement and fought a few nobodies, he steps up to the guy most people recognise as the #1 contender in their weight class, and gives him a boxing lesson. Prepared or not, an impressive display from Morales, who deserved a draw at the very least. The man landed the (much) better shots and made Maidana look like an amateur with the use of only ONE eye for roughly 90% of the fight. Feel bad for Erik, but it's not the first time, and nor will it be the last, that ineffective aggression is preferred over boxing skill.
Your posts get more and more pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
BEFORE Maidana fought Khan he was top ranked at 140 because he had ALREADY destroyed Ortiz, lost a razor close decision to WBA champ Kotelnik and had a 90 odd % KO ratio. Khan's people didn't need to hype him, he was already PROVEN and starring on HBO.
A legend like Eric Morales giving a crude slugger problems is not good? What a disgrace to Morales. Deary deary me... :rolleyes:
Just watched this fight and i have to say, i enjoyed this fight alot more than i thought i would.
Round 1 = Maidana
Round 2 = Maidana
Round 3 = Maidana
Round 4 = Morales
Round 5 = Morales
Round 6 = Morales
Round 7 = Morales
Round 8 = Morales
Round 9 = Morales
Round 10 = Morales
Round 11 = Maidana
Round 12 = Maidana
I liked Erik Morales more accurate punching.
115-113 Erik Morales
i love battlers who pile in and try and overwhelm their opponents with punches and id much rather watch a fight like that than someone who stands off and avoids getting hit as much as poss and just throws when he knows he will land
at the same time it bugs me when fighters get results just for throwing more punches
i havent seen the fight yet, hopefully ill get a chance tonight, but from reading your post i reckon i will favour morales too :)
People are way overrating Morale's shotness. He only ever got blown out by Manny, same as David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Joshua Clottey, Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito. He's only 34, hardly an old man, and although he's for sure been in some wars, it's probably not that many more than JM Marquez, and he's been fairly well rested the last couple years and is not starving himself to make weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYour posts get more and more pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
BEFORE Maidana fought Khan he was top ranked at 140 because he had ALREADY destroyed Ortiz, lost a razor close decision to WBA champ Kotelnik and had a 90 odd % KO ratio. Khan's people didn't need to hype him, he was already PROVEN and starring on HBO.
A legend like Eric Morales giving a crude slugger problems is not good? What a disgrace to Morales. Deary deary me... :rolleyes:
I think he showed that he's still got more to offer than we thought. Let's credit Morales with doing better than expected, rather than drag down the entire 140 lb division to beig crap.
I haven't seen the fight, but I've seen a lot of different scorecards, which leads me to believe that it was a close fight in which many rounds could have gone either way.
I had Maidana winning rounds 1,2,11,and 12 solid and Morales winning rounds 4,5,6,8,and 10. Toss ups were 3, 7 and 9 mostly but I leaned toward Maidana only because of his aggressive--ness and I didn't want to give them to him.
It was tough to score because I thought Maidana was too wild missing a lot and Morales was spot on, but Maidana had a lot more output and thought for sure the judges would give it to him. And there is the fact I wanted Morales to win.