Mosley is the toughest opponent Pacquiao is going to face

Mosley is the toughest foe Pacquiao is goin' to face. He is much dangerous than Marquez, and Eric Morales (in their 1st tussle). Forget about de la Hoya. He was drained and washed-up then. Would promoter Arum curses himself till Kingdom Come incase upsets happens? Upset ensued after he pitted his dangerous then-undefeated-knocked-out puncher pug Juan Manuel Lopez to the underrated but granite-chinned Salido just to avoid a marquee fight against undefeated Gamboa. What happen? Lopez lost. Likewise in the same event last Sunday (Philippines) hoi-polloi favorite Andre Berto also lost to Ortiz and his probable multi-million dollars fight vs. Pacquiao

Mosley is handpicked for both Pac and Floyd. Look at every time Shane fought after being out of the ring 5 +months or more. He has had his worst performances when off long layoffs.

Mosley should have retired few years ago. He is starting to show the effects of his long career and moving back and forth from 154 to 147 at 36-40 years old is no bueno.

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Mosley is the toughest foe Pacquiao is goin' to face. He is much dangerous than Marquez, and Eric Morales (in their 1st tussle). Forget about de la Hoya. He was drained and washed-up then. Would promoter Arum curses himself till Kingdom Come incase upsets happens? Upset ensued after he pitted his dangerous then-undefeated-knocked-out puncher pug Juan Manuel Lopez to the underrated but granite-chinned Salido just to avoid a marquee fight against undefeated Gamboa. What happen? Lopez lost. Likewise in the same event last Sunday (Philippines) hoi-polloi favorite Andre Berto also lost to Ortiz and his probable multi-million dollars fight vs. Pacquiao

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You are crazy!!! This will not be Pacs most dangerous fight. Trying to compare this to Berto-Ortiz, and JuanMa-Salido is insane. Yes Berto was the favorite, but a fight most thought Ortiz had a good chance of winning. Ortiz has always had a ton of talent and Berto's record was always in question. JuanMa was a bit more of a upset to me, but not on the level of Mosley beating Pac. Salido was a quality opponet who went the distace with Gamboa in a highly competitve fight, and JuanMa had a questionable chin by most. Now your're thinking arguably the worlds best fighter is going to lose to a someone who has looked horrible in his last two fight. I don't see it happening. Pac will win in a brutal stoppage.

Mosley from 5 years ago would have been a handful for Pacquiao, but he has no shot against Manny now. Hell the 39 year old Mosley could only manage a draw in his last fight against Sergio Mora and he's going to be Pacquiao's toughest opponent? I don't think so, sad to say, Shane is going to take a beating, and be stopped for the first time in his career.

Difference between Mora and Manny is Pac loves to fight, he almost thrives on the combat. This will be Mosley's slim chance as Manny will engage while boxer-movers simulating gloved preservationist baffle an old Mosley. Who ever signed Mora after Mayweather was a dope. Mosley's biggest chance is to attack Manny out right and get him on his heels and into exchanges, his instinct is to fight out not flight out. At some point along the way I can really see Mosley depositing Manny on his backside, power surprising him and Manny needing to switch gears early on. Spanning a career I dont know about most 'dangerous' but maybe I'm off my rocker...I think Mosley is live in this fight. He either ends up looking like William Joppy after Hopkins...or he gets a....hold on here....he gets a tko on Manny :-X I know, nuts.
I'm not stuck in current 'upset' think. Have thought it before it was signed. Styles. Actually like this fight. Going to be many small explosions and frequent points of impact.

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Mosley is the toughest foe Pacquiao is goin' to face. He is much dangerous than Marquez, and Eric Morales (in their 1st tussle). Forget about de la Hoya. He was drained and washed-up then. Would promoter Arum curses himself till Kingdom Come incase upsets happens? Upset ensued after he pitted his dangerous then-undefeated-knocked-out puncher pug Juan Manuel Lopez to the underrated but granite-chinned Salido just to avoid a marquee fight against undefeated Gamboa. What happen? Lopez lost. Likewise in the same event last Sunday (Philippines) hoi-polloi favorite Andre Berto also lost to Ortiz and his probable multi-million dollars fight vs. Pacquiao

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You are crazy!!! This will not be Pacs most dangerous fight. Trying to compare this to Berto-Ortiz, and JuanMa-Salido is insane. Yes Berto was the favorite, but a fight most thought Ortiz had a good chance of winning. Ortiz has always had a ton of talent and Berto's record was always in question. JuanMa was a bit more of a upset to me, but not on the level of Mosley beating Pac. Salido was a quality opponet who went the distace with Gamboa in a highly competitve fight, and JuanMa had a questionable chin by most. Now your're thinking arguably the worlds best fighter is going to lose to a someone who has looked horrible in his last two fight. I don't see it happening. Pac will win in a brutal stoppage.

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Hey man, I am talking here about upset, probable upset by Mosley against Pacman. I am talkin here Mosley as the toughest foe Pac will face. Can you give me the toughest Pacman has face aside from those I mentioned in my original poser? Probably you say Margarito. Shane knocked the shit out of him at the 9th Round. But Marga survived Pacman. He even KO pacman's Mom Dionesia after that flushed left hook he unleashed vs. Manny boy.
You sound as if Shane is just your regular journeyman that has been plucked by Arum to fight Manny. YOu go to BoxingRec and look who were the opponents of Shane. MOra and Mayweather, and even Forest and Wright have the style that do not suit Shane's style.
But Manny? Jesus Christ, his "wait and I'll lick your ass" suit" Shane clashing style. Thus we can not ignore an upset here. This fight could be a Fight of the Year nominee probably much better than Morales vs. Maidana

............Mosley is the most washed-up opponent Pacquiao is going to face.

I think Shane has only the mildest punchers chance. I think he's shot. He was shaking his hands because he couldn't let them go against Floyd. That's a classic sign of a guy who can no longer pull the trigger. He can see the openings, but he can no longer act on them.

Shane has a chance because he's powerful and Manny is really only a lightweight (by today's standards). But I think if Floyd discouraged Shane, Manny will build on that and Shane will not make it through the middle rounds.

Gonna say it one more time, styles make fights. Mosely is gonna be like a Margarito that can actually hit Pac, and probably even harder. How can you guys after all these upsets and fights where people didnt expect good fights(morales/ortiz) write Mosely off? Once again I'm gonna go with this fight will be alot closer/better than most of you expect....

Ill go with Pac on a late stoppage after a close fight but the younger more aerobic fighter taking it out.

I also think Pac has the style to catch Shane on angles as he is coming forward too.

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Gonna say it one more time, styles make fights. Mosely is gonna be like a Margarito that can actually hit Pac, and probably even harder. How can you guys after all these upsets and fights where people didnt expect good fights(morales/ortiz) write Mosely off? Once again I'm gonna go with this fight will be alot closer/better than most of you expect....

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This fight will be more one sided than people think. Mosley had ease with Margarito because of his style as a more stationary target. Mosley was also active before that fight. In the last 2.5 + years he has fought Mayweather and was gassed in the first round and vs Mora he looked like crap.
This is a payday for Mosley he has no intentions of winning just collecting his retirement fund which was diminished by his divorce and now he has replenished that by losing to Floyd and Manny.

Mosley will be stopped mark my words.

Mosley just doesn't have the legs or the output.

Crazy talk, Mosley of 4 years ago would have been a quality test. But 4 years is an eternity when you are north of 35. All the decline is setting in for anyone at that juncture, let alone a boxer who has been getting hit on the head for 2 decades.

I will be willing Mosley on as I like the guy and always root for the underdog, but how many fighters beat the PFP best at nigh on 40? It never happens does it?

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Gonna say it one more time, styles make fights. Mosely is gonna be like a Margarito that can actually hit Pac, and probably even harder. How can you guys after all these upsets and fights where people didnt expect good fights(morales/ortiz) write Mosely off? Once again I'm gonna go with this fight will be alot closer/better than most of you expect....

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Because he was gassed against Mayweather after about 3 rounds. Mayweather doesn't have the work-rate of Pacquiao. Mosley is fucked. :cool:

Margarito against Pac had more of chance than Shane does. Shane is shot and will be stopped, I say before the 8th. This would have been a great fight 5 or 6 years ago.

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Margarito against Pac had more of chance than Shane does. Shane is shot and will be stopped, I say before the 8th. This would have been a great fight 5 or 6 years ago.

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YOu're funny man. what kind of logic was that "Margarito against Pac had more of chance than Shane does" ? Margartio did not make it against Pacman, but Mosley bludgeoned and KO Marga in the 9th. Pacman ain't KO or TKO Marga. Three simple premises that show Mosley is better than Marga. Mosley is not only better but stronger than Marquez, or Morales (first tussle with Pacman).
That's why pro- Mosley, you ready your P1000 (Philippine currency, man) against Pacman fans who are going to pit your sum with their P5000. Expect for an upset and a windfall!

I'm beting against Pacman, but I'm riding with Shane.
"Shane, please knock this dude out!"

Yes I do believe that Shane chance of winning will only come with the hardest punch he every threw. But saying that, if Shane be looking for that knockout punch, Manny is going to kill him. Naz have to have a gameplan. If he don't, here it go

Shane is going to have to read Manny's first punch. A pawing jab. That's the punch that Shane is going to have to punch with or offset Manny's rhythm with a strong jab(not the pawing jab he usually throws) or run out the way. Shane "HAD" good combonation speed. but now he can't match Manny. So if Manny get off first, Shane needs to, 1. Step in and hold for dear life 2. Cover up and pray or 3. Absorb and counter Manny 3rd or 4th punch. Manny second punch have death written all over it. Sometimes his fourth. Another thing, Shane is going to have to do, is cut Manny's angle with an angle. And I mean footwork cause we all know Manny punches come from different angles as well. But 90% of Manny's angles be cut to the right. Against most peoples power. If Shane can step into the counter, he might can slow Manny's combo down a bit.
Last but not least, Shane will hip punch and lower his head to cut Manny(not intentionally of course).


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Margarito against Pac had more of chance than Shane does. Shane is shot and will be stopped, I say before the 8th. This would have been a great fight 5 or 6 years ago.

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YOu're funny man. what kind of logic was that "Margarito against Pac had more of chance than Shane does" ? Margartio did not make it against Pacman, but Mosley bludgeoned and KO Marga in the 9th. Pacman ain't KO or TKO Marga. Three simple premises that show Mosley is better than Marga. Mosley is not only better but stronger than Marquez, or Morales (first tussle with Pacman).
That's why pro- Mosley, you ready your P1000 (Philippine currency, man) against Pacman fans who are going to pit your sum with their P5000. Expect for an upset and a windfall!

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Margarito had to lose a shitload of weight prior to the fight and was caught with loaded gloves right before. And Mosley was the huge underdog, Margarito likely underestimated Mosley and probably wasn't at his best that night. Still, Mosley did what he had to do and looked great doing it.

I actually think Margarito looked somewhat better against Pac because his mind was in it and he was in shape. When Margarito is in shape, he will take the punishment and keep on coming. And so he did.

Roll on 2 plus years later and Mosley is coming in off of two fights without a win and a good dozen and a half rounds looking quite shot.

Pac is massive favourite for good reason.

Fist off Mosley is not as great as stated on the thread opener. A prime Mosley might have proven to be too much for Pacquio but that's question will have to be asked after Pacquiao finishes Mosley. Mosley, like Dela Hoya can't pull the trigger anymore. Margarito was slower than molasses which enabled Mosley to use his old, slow but savvy skills. Mosley can honestly get hurt and I hope the ref will be watch him really close. As far as being the toughest. Yea a prime Mosley would have been the toughest not the strongest most powerful punch) but the toughest (Pac will ever have faced is Margarito.

It's funny but this is not the first time I've heard someone say that Mosley is the toughest fighter Pacquiao has fought in a while. With the number of upsets we've seen recently, it's not safe to write Mosley off just yet. He has the power to trip Pacquiao up and he won't be bullied by Pacquiao, but I just don't know if he has a solid 12 rounds in him. That is, if he doesn't hurt Pacquiao early in the fight, with Pacquiao's training and stamina, it'll be a tough outing for Mosley.

Then again, Pacquiao isn't defensive like Mayweather or Mora are, a style that Mosley doesn't do well against, at least recently hasn't done well against. Mosley has never lost to a smaller fighter. His only true loss recently was against Floyd who is arguably the best fighter on the planet. Mora was an odd showing, I grant, but Mora at his best is a difficult outing for anyone because he is defensive and awkward, and add to that he is bigger than Mosley.

Pacquiao is a favorite for a reason. No doubt about it. I like Mosley as an underdog in this one though. Pacquiao better bring his A game.

I think some people are once again getting a little carried away regarding how shot a former great fighter actually is.

Sure he lost to Floyd, not as one sidedly as Marquez though and he did KO the guy Manny last went the distance with.

Of course Manny is a big favourite but Shane has never lain down for anyone and all this tal of it being a routine knockout job for Manny is ridiculous.

When has Shane ever been stopped? He will want to fight to the end, he has the punch to hurt Manny and Manny isn't the hardest guy to hit.

An upset certainly isn't impossible. Manny is fighting above his natural weight class, he's managing two extremely demanding careers simultaneously and a guy like Shane can never be taken lightly.

Of course I expect Manny to win, but if he knocks Shane out, something that nobody else has ever done that would be a great acomplishment.

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I think some people are once again getting a little carried away regarding how shot a former great fighter actually is.

Sure he lost to Floyd, not as one sidedly as Marquez though and he did KO the guy Manny last went the distance with.

Of course Manny is a big favourite but Shane has never lain down for anyone and all this tal of it being a routine knockout job for Manny is ridiculous.

When has Shane ever been stopped? He will want to fight to the end, he has the punch to hurt Manny and Manny isn't the hardest guy to hit.

An upset certainly isn't impossible. Manny is fighting above his natural weight class, he's managing two extremely demanding careers simultaneously and a guy like Shane can never be taken lightly.

Of course I expect Manny to win, but if he knocks Shane out, something that nobody else has ever done that would be a great acomplishment.

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But Marquez was a fighter fighting 2 weight classes outside of an already optimal weight class and Mayweather couldn't even make the weight for that. Of course Mosley the natural WW did better. It's a no brainer.

And let's quit with this Manny fighting outside of his own weight class talk. You don't do what he is doing and be totally beyond your comfort zone. WW is clearly his weight right now.

Mosley is clearly past his best. He had a HUGE lay off and came back and gassed after 2. He then had a tough, tough night with Mora. He has no form behind him and a pensioners age in boxing terms.

Having said that though, nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see Mosley knock Pac clean through the ropes. It would make my year.

I want Mosley to win but there is a slim chance of him coming away with the win however he has a punchers chance and i don't think the old dog is going to give up. He will go out on his shield and fight till the final bell.

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It's funny but this is not the first time I've heard someone say that Mosley is the toughest fighter Pacquiao has fought in a while. With the number of upsets we've seen recently, it's not safe to write Mosley off just yet. He has the power to trip Pacquiao up and he won't be bullied by Pacquiao, but I just don't know if he has a solid 12 rounds in him. That is, if he doesn't hurt Pacquiao early in the fight, with Pacquiao's training and stamina, it'll be a tough outing for Mosley.

Then again, Pacquiao isn't defensive like Mayweather or Mora are, a style that Mosley doesn't do well against, at least recently hasn't done well against. Mosley has never lost to a smaller fighter. His only true loss recently was against Floyd who is arguably the best fighter on the planet. Mora was an odd showing, I grant, but Mora at his best is a difficult outing for anyone because he is defensive and awkward, and add to that he is bigger than Mosley.

Pacquiao is a favorite for a reason. No doubt about it. I like Mosley as an underdog in this one though. Pacquiao better bring his A game.

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@Rantcatrat, and Bilbo, and some dudes:
I liked you, guys. You all talked sense. Unlike many folks here who have shallow analysis on this Pacquiao-Mosley's brouhaha

you guys are NUTS who think Mosely has any more than a puncher's chance. This guy is WAY past his prime while Pac is right in the middle of his.

I think this is a dangerous fight for Pac. Don't get me wrong, I fully expect Pac to win BUT he is never the hardest to hit and I believe Mosley is the biggest puncher he will have ever faced. If Mosley lands good on Pac he is very capable of stopping him!

Also I remember people saying he was shot going into the Marg fight (I was one of them) and then he produced a great performance and stopped one of the most solid chinned fighters of all time. Pac is a total different kettle of fish no doubt BUT I refuse to write Shane off against anyone other than Mayweather and he did even rock him, the hardest fighter in the world to hit let alone rock.

mywthr is easy to chop-chop. hard to rock? he himself runs like a sissy bcuz he himself knows about the chandelier in his jaw. zab judah rocked him, too.

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Margarito against Pac had more of chance than Shane does. Shane is shot and will be stopped, I say before the 8th. This would have been a great fight 5 or 6 years ago.

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YOu're funny man. what kind of logic was that "Margarito against Pac had more of chance than Shane does" ? Margartio did not make it against Pacman, but Mosley bludgeoned and KO Marga in the 9th. Pacman ain't KO or TKO Marga. Three simple premises that show Mosley is better than Marga. Mosley is not only better but stronger than Marquez, or Morales (first tussle with Pacman).
That's why pro- Mosley, you ready your P1000 (Philippine currency, man) against Pacman fans who are going to pit your sum with their P5000. Expect for an upset and a windfall!

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Marquez was more than to able to pull the trigger when he fought Pacquiao.
Margarito was willing to live up to his rep as a face first slugger when he fought Pacquiao.

Mosley will be caught in no-mans-land waiting to pull the trigger every second of every round.

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mywthr is easy to chop-chop. hard to rock? he himself runs like a sissy bcuz he himself knows about the chandelier in his jaw. zab judah rocked him, too.

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He took some big shots off a good ODLH at 154 (not the weight drained old man Pac fought) and that didn't bother him. I don't think Mayweather has got a glass jaw at all. It's not running like a sissy either. The art or science of boxing is to hit and not be hit and Mayweather is the best in the world at that!

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Mosley is the toughest foe Pacquiao is goin' to face. He is much dangerous than Marquez, and Eric Morales (in their 1st tussle). Forget about de la Hoya. He was drained and washed-up then. Would promoter Arum curses himself till Kingdom Come incase upsets happens? Upset ensued after he pitted his dangerous then-undefeated-knocked-out puncher pug Juan Manuel Lopez to the underrated but granite-chinned Salido just to avoid a marquee fight against undefeated Gamboa. What happen? Lopez lost. Likewise in the same event last Sunday (Philippines) hoi-polloi favorite Andre Berto also lost to Ortiz and his probable multi-million dollars fight vs. Pacquiao

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You are crazy!!! This will not be Pacs most dangerous fight. Trying to compare this to Berto-Ortiz, and JuanMa-Salido is insane. Yes Berto was the favorite, but a fight most thought Ortiz had a good chance of winning. Ortiz has always had a ton of talent and Berto's record was always in question. JuanMa was a bit more of a upset to me, but not on the level of Mosley beating Pac. Salido was a quality opponet who went the distace with Gamboa in a highly competitve fight, and JuanMa had a questionable chin by most. Now your're thinking arguably the worlds best fighter is going to lose to a someone who has looked horrible in his last two fight. I don't see it happening. Pac will win in a brutal stoppage.

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Hey man, I am talking here about upset, probable upset by Mosley against Pacman. I am talkin here Mosley as the toughest foe Pac will face. Can you give me the toughest Pacman has face aside from those I mentioned in my original poser? Probably you say Margarito. Shane knocked the shit out of him at the 9th Round. But Marga survived Pacman. He even KO pacman's Mom Dionesia after that flushed left hook he unleashed vs. Manny boy.
You sound as if Shane is just your regular journeyman that has been plucked by Arum to fight Manny. YOu go to BoxingRec and look who were the opponents of Shane. MOra and Mayweather, and even Forest and Wright have the style that do not suit Shane's style.
But Manny? Jesus Christ, his "wait and I'll lick your ass" suit" Shane clashing style. Thus we can not ignore an upset here. This fight could be a Fight of the Year nominee probably much better than Morales vs. Maidana

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Journeyman, NO. Plucked to fight Manny, YES to sell a shit load of tickets and PPV's to the casual boxing fan who only sees the names and want to watch this PPV.

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I'm beting against Pacman, but I'm riding with Shane.
"Shane, please knock this dude out!"

Yes I do believe that Shane chance of winning will only come with the hardest punch he every threw. But saying that, if Shane be looking for that knockout punch, Manny is going to kill him. Naz have to have a gameplan. If he don't, here it go

Shane is going to have to read Manny's first punch. A pawing jab. That's the punch that Shane is going to have to punch with or offset Manny's rhythm with a strong jab(not the pawing jab he usually throws) or run out the way. Shane "HAD" good combonation speed. but now he can't match Manny. So if Manny get off first, Shane needs to, 1. Step in and hold for dear life 2. Cover up and pray or 3. Absorb and counter Manny 3rd or 4th punch. Manny second punch have death written all over it. Sometimes his fourth. Another thing, Shane is going to have to do, is cut Manny's angle with an angle. And I mean footwork cause we all know Manny punches come from different angles as well. But 90% of Manny's angles be cut to the right. Against most peoples power. If Shane can step into the counter, he might can slow Manny's combo down a bit.
Last but not least, Shane will hip punch and lower his head to cut Manny(not intentionally of course).


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See I think this analysis is pretty good. I do think Naz and Shane will KNOW what to do and that Shane will recognize the opportunities in the ring. But I think he no longer has the reflexes or balance to EXECUTE quickly enough to be effective.

yeah thats the art of boxing---but no one wants to see him fight, he stinks out the whole arena with his style. Not getting hit is fine....but not engaging your opponent stinks out the whole arena. ODLH??? Big shots??? Oscar was never at the right punching range to get any leverage into his shots, he was crowded up too close to mayweather the whole fight, trying to cut the frikkin ring off/trap him on the ropes. Oscar is not an in-fighter, he needs room, he needs to find his range. I wouldnt say mayweather took too many good anchored, leveraged shots at all in that fight. More like good, stiff arm punches, at best.

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yeah thats the art of boxing---but no one wants to see him fight, he stinks out the whole arena with his style. Not getting hit is fine....but not engaging your opponent stinks out the whole arena. ODLH??? Big shots??? Oscar was never at the right punching range to get any leverage into his shots, he was crowded up too close to mayweather the whole fight, trying to cut the frikkin ring off/trap him on the ropes. Oscar is not an in-fighter, he needs room, he needs to find his range. I wouldnt say mayweather took too many good anchored, leveraged shots at all in that fight. More like good, stiff arm punches, at best.

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No one wants to see him fight?

What was ODLH biggest payday? What was Hattons biggest payday? Marquez's biggest payday? Which fight (should it come off) is being touted as the the biggest grossing fight of all time? That's Mayweather vs Pacquiao if you haven't been on earth for the last 3 years!

Look at this video if you don't think De La Hoya hit Mayweather with any good shots. There are quite a few on here but look at the one at around 4:50, that was a great shot and it never even bothered him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55czSCHTQfU

Mayweather is a tool no doubt but he is the most talented boxer on the planet no doubt.

This would have been a dangerous fight a few years ago, not now.

This will be Shanes last big money fight. Nothing like a good beating for a send off!

This will be like the Margarito fight, only worse. I think we'll get a couple of competitive rounds, but Shane will struggle for the remaining 10.

Pacquiao will stop Sugar in 6, there I said it. I don't think it'll be a KO, but he's going to get cut and puffy, corner calls it. Pacquiao has many, many dimensions, Mosley gassed against money, and was lucky to escape with a draw against Mora in what was supposed to be his good performance to get back in the lime light. YES he has a punchers chance, but it's a slim one. There's a reason he's paying out 5 to 1.

Mosley has a real shot in the first 3 to 15 minutes. His style is based on people who come to him and Manny is not going to back peddle. Shane punches like Armstrong and that's why he was such a destroyer at 135. Interesting to see how Manny takes a cork screw type shot because Shane is going to land. Richardson is not looking for a points win and neither is Shane. The plan is to blow your wad in the first 18 minutes. After that, Shane becomes a pin cushion. He simply does not have the legs. Shane either knocks him out early to mid or he suffers UD loss.

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]Pacquiao will stop Sugar in 6, there I said it. I don't think it'll be a KO, but he's going to get cut and puffy, corner calls it.[/B] Pacquiao has many, many dimensions, Mosley gassed against money, and was lucky to escape with a draw against Mora in what was supposed to be his good performance to get back in the lime light. YES he has a punchers chance, but it's a slim one. There's a reason he's paying out 5 to 1.

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I can buy that, except it will likely go 8 to 10 rounds before the ref calls it, or Mosley's corner does. Pacquiao is at the absolute peak of his game, and Shane is fading badly.

Pac man handled everybody in front of him since stepping up from 135. Knocked out Hatton with a pin point accurate left bow and arrow counter, knocked down Cotto and wobbled Margarito with beautiful right hooks and made the always competitive Clottey have no prayer by throwing 1000 punches.
Who in Mosley's training camp sparring wise is even preparing him for sharp right hooks ? Nobody.
He is not even training to win just doing what he did for Mayweather and Mora which is being the best opponent he can be.
I am a big Mosley fan and he is one of the nicest guys in the sport but I wish he would have retired.

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Margarito against Pac had more of chance than Shane does. Shane is shot and will be stopped, I say before the 8th. This would have been a great fight 5 or 6 years ago.

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No, it's not.
5 or 6 years ago, this would have been a horrific mismatch in favor of Mosley. Manny was in the 130 lb weight division while Shane was in 154.

It would also be considered a mismatch just 2 years ago in Mosley's favor when he just beat Margarito and was in 147 while Manny was in 140.

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Margarito against Pac had more of chance than Shane does. Shane is shot and will be stopped, I say before the 8th. This would have been a great fight 5 or 6 years ago.

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No, it's not.
5 or 6 years ago, this would have been a horrific mismatch in favor of Mosley. Manny was in the 130 lb weight division while Shane was in 154.

It would also be considered a mismatch just 2 years ago in Mosley's favor when he just beat Margarito and was in 147 while Manny was in 140.

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Xaduboxer, what I've should have said was the version of Mosley 5 or 6 years against this version of Manny. You happy? I'm pretty sure others know what I mean.