Kevin Mitchell vs John Murray � It�s On!
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Kevin Mitchell vs John Murray � It�s On!
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I'm sure Eddie Hearn said on monday over Twitter that purse bids were going out for Rees vs Murray as Rees is the mandatory for the Euro title...
For Murray, I think fighting either of these guys is a step back, he should now be having a shot at world level, if not a title, a world level opponent for a mandatory spot. Mitchell had his shot at a world title and blew it, Murray shouldn't have to go through Mitchell to get his day.
I actually think Mitchell will beat Murray though. Murray is ok if his opponent stands in front of him and fights as though they are stuck in a telephone box. If he fights someone quicker than he is (which I think Mitchell is) I think he will struggle and add to that Mitchells ability to fight on the outside like he did vs Prescott and I think you have the blueprint to beating Murray.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagician
I'm glad this fight is being made though and I'd like to see Rees fight the winner too before any title shot. Marquez and co are a step too far for all 3 though IMO.
For the past year or so I've always picked John Murray to beat Kevin Mitchell but after seeing how poor Murray was in his last fight, as well as how easy he is to hit, I think Mitchell has a great chance of beating him.
If Mitchell can get back to the form against Prescott then he has a chance but if he starts fighting Murray he will lose badly.
i think michell could well outbox the wide open murray.
If Mitchell has managed to drag himself off the patented Pablo Escobar nutritional programme that he indulged in for awhile after the Katsidis fight then I think he batters Murray to a comfortable UD. I've got to say I would love to see Murray put in with Rios, that has great fight as long as it lasts written all over it.
Brandon Rios would bulldoze through John Murray. I don't even think it would last four rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
I agree, hence why I said as long as it lasts ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzBrandon Rios would bulldoze through John Murray. I don't even think it would last four rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
Plus, we would get weeks of eric telling us that Rios couldn't handle being in there with someone as tough as Murray ;D
John Murray got found out in his last fight. Funny how one fight can alter your perception of a fighter. He is nowhere near world class level. That much is now obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
TBH, I've been saying that for years. I think people thought could be another Hatton, someone who has tough fights at domestic level who finally comes good, but I just can't see it, I don't think he's got anywhere near the skill or talent that Hatton had.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzJohn Murray got found out in his last fight. Funny how one fight can alter your perception of a fighter. He is nowhere near world class level. That much is now obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
murray had an off night in his last fightQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinTBH, I've been saying that for years. I think people thought could be another Hatton, someone who has tough fights at domestic level who finally comes good, but I just can't see it, I don't think he's got anywhere near the skill or talent that Hatton had.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzJohn Murray got found out in his last fight. Funny how one fight can alter your perception of a fighter. He is nowhere near world class level. That much is now obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
hatton had off nights, struggled against thaxton, murray blew thaxton away
noone believes murray will have the same success as hatton or has the same tallent
he is a good fighter tho with lots of assests
mitchell is a tough opponent for him, i think its a close fight but i think murray will come through it
Jon Thaxton was also 9 years older and bar a great KO against Melero hadn't looked up to much in quite some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44murray had an off night in his last fightQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinTBH, I've been saying that for years. I think people thought could be another Hatton, someone who has tough fights at domestic level who finally comes good, but I just can't see it, I don't think he's got anywhere near the skill or talent that Hatton had.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzJohn Murray got found out in his last fight. Funny how one fight can alter your perception of a fighter. He is nowhere near world class level. That much is now obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
hatton had off nights, struggled against thaxton, murray blew thaxton away
noone believes murray will have the same success as hatton or has the same tallent
he is a good fighter tho with lots of assests
mitchell is a tough opponent for him, i think its a close fight but i think murray will come through it
I don't think Murray has lots of assets. He's got a decent chin, is tough & has good stamina. Good body puncher. Average speed, power, pretty poor footwork. I just don't see how handles himself against the likes of Guerrero or Rios.
I think Mitchell would have beaten Murray before Katsidis. If he's recovered from that fight, which i doubt, then i'd definitely pick him to beat Murray. Mitchell can move and box as well as fight.
No way Murray hits as hard as Katsidis. No way Mitchell will be under the same amount of mental pressure (Murray will be favourite). But has he recovered from Katsidis :-\
Given the amount of white powder he's apparently shoved up his nose since he's probably forgotten about it ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
For my money, if the Mitchell who showed up for the Prescott fight is in the ring, Mitchell will win, but if the knob I paid £35 to go see at Upton Park turns up than Murray marches on towards getting beaten up by someone at world level.
The frightening thing is it sounds like Warren is trying to line this up for Sky Box Office!! This is the kind of fight that should be live on ITV to get the general public buzzing about boxing again!
you could look at the thaxton situation a different wayQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
he was in the form of his career, had not long since won his first britsih title, then the european and in the first defence was robbed in my opinion, won the fight by 2 or 3 rounds
yes lost to a very good yuri romanov (spelling) and murray, he also looked much better at lightweight than light welter
murray does have good assets, perhaps not at the very top which is where i would put Guerrero but he is a quality fighter with every chance of winning a world title
True, that is Warren for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Also first time I have seen Barry Hearns son, and he looks and sounds a lot by his dad. :)
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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
give that man a round of applause
the sort of sense that often gets spoken on boxing forums but rarely gets put into place by the tv execs nowadays
This ppv bullshit is beginning to piss me off. I've said it before but they are putting PPVs on Sky nowadays willy nilly. I remember when it was only THE fights that got shown on PPV. Lewis-Tyson, Hatton-Mayweather etc. Now they putting any old shite on. Really beginning to piss me off. Murray vs Mitchell is NOT a ppv event.
ITV gave up on boxing. Remember Froch-Pascal, a great fight, was live on ITV1.
It costs so many thousands to produce a live boxing event. It costs nothing to show repeats of the Sweeney. Unfortunately old 70s/80s repeats get more viewers.
Apparently John Murray has relinquished the EBU title prior to Gavin Rees purse bid.
He was never going to fight Gavin Rees anyway.
I thought the Super Six fights were on ITV4?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
They've all been on Primetime. ITV showed FRoch-Taylor delayed the next night. That's his last ITV fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzI thought the Super Six fights were on ITV4?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Wasn't Khan v Paulie the last one?Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThey've all been on Primetime. ITV showed FRoch-Taylor delayed the next night. That's his last ITV fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzI thought the Super Six fights were on ITV4?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster