Margarito's eye struggling to heal, career may be in jeopardy

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Antonio Margarito, the former world welterweight boxing champion beaten by Manny Pacquiao in November, is struggling to recover from a right eye injury suffered in that bout and will undergo an extensive examination next week that probably will determine whether his career can resume.

Margarito (38-7, 27 knockouts) was struck in the eye by a left uppercut from Pacquiao in the fourth round of his unanimous-decision loss to the Filipino star Nov. 13 at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

Margarito's promoter, Bob Arum, earlier this year sought to schedule a summer date for Margarito to have a rematch against world super-welterweight champion Miguel Cotto, then pushed it back to September.

Word came Thursday that Margarito will now visit the University of Utah's prestigious John A. Moran Eye Center next week.

"The eye is still giving him trouble; it has not completely healed," Arum said.

Margarito's trainer, Robert Garcia, said he is "worried" about his fighter, who was ensnared in scandal in 2009 after plaster-coated inserts were pulled from inside his hand wraps before his loss to Shane Mosley at Staples Center. The California State Athletic Commission revoked Margarito's license.

"It's hard to think that he'll have to maybe quit like this when there's still million-dollar paydays out there for him," Garcia said. "I always tell these guys to invest their money when they get it, because that next big fight might never come. This is a big hit. He's a close friend."

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Antonio Margarito: Antonio Margarito struggling to recover from eye injury - latimes.com

It's all Robert Garcia's fault.

The beating he took off Shane Mosley was bad enough, the beating he took off Manny Pacquiao is career ending. He took a ridiculous amount of punishment, and probably will never be the same.

It's EXTREMELY rare that I would take joy in the permanent injury of a fighter, but this is such a case. The scumbag doesn't deserve to be making those million dollar pay days and I genuinely hope his career is over.

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The beating he took off Shane Mosley was bad enough, the beating he took off Manny Pacquiao is career ending. He took a ridiculous amount of punishment, and probably will never be the same.

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it's too bad we'll never see the cheating fuck receive another ass whooping

Yet more proof for whatever comes around goes around. Flashbacks of Resto/Collins only now the perpetrator gets his. Welcome to Karma Antonio.

I'm trying hard to feel sorry for him, but I just don't.

He's made his money though, and with all the punishment he's sustained throughout his career it's probably best that he does retire.

I don't feel bad for him, but Pac did During the fight he implored the ref to stop the fight for a couple of rounds. But Garcia did a shitty job. The ref did a shitty job. Pac-he seemed to take his foot off of the gas in the final couple of rounds as he didn't want to do anymore damage on Margacheato.

I think he's been cheating since Lujan. How do you rip a mans ear off? Good on him.

Cheater or not, the man took one hell of a beating from Pac and he took it like a man. His corner should of saved him though. An eye for an eye is not right in this sport because it can cause double the tragedy.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer c*nt...

Im amazed at responses to this. You guys do realise that this is all bad press for boxing right? Yes Margarito cheated and hes an arsehole (bad press for boxing) but the media doesnt see this as a good thing, theyd turn this into a "boxing is too dangerous' article.

Career ending injuries too ANYONE in a fight does no favours for the sport. Margarito was punished by the boxing authorities for what he has done, he doesnt need to die in the ring to make up for it.

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Im amazed at responses to this. You guys do realise that this is all bad press for boxing right? Yes Margarito cheated and hes an arsehole (bad press for boxing) but the media doesnt see this as a good thing, theyd turn this into a "boxing is too dangerous' article.

Career ending injuries too ANYONE in a fight does no favours for the sport. Margarito was punished by the boxing authorities for what he has done, he doesnt need to die in the ring to make up for it.

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Like Shane could've done?...

A year out of the sport then to return and earn then return to earn MILLIONS from a fight with the world's #1 fighter is NOT punishment.

He deserves everything he gets. Hope he spunks his money on drugs and prostitutes and ends up living in a basement under a boxing gym like Luis Resto did..

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Im amazed at responses to this. You guys do realise that this is all bad press for boxing right? Yes Margarito cheated and hes an arsehole (bad press for boxing) but the media doesnt see this as a good thing, theyd turn this into a "boxing is too dangerous' article.

Career ending injuries too ANYONE in a fight does no favours for the sport. Margarito was punished by the boxing authorities for what he has done, he doesnt need to die in the ring to make up for it.

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Like Shane could've done?...

A year out of the sport then to return and earn then return to earn MILLIONS from a fight with the world's #1 fighter is NOT punishment.

He deserves everything he gets. Hope he spunks his money on drugs and prostitutes and ends up living in a basement under a boxing gym like Luis Resto did.

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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Well I think its pretty stupid that everyone is pissed coz Margarito could of SEVERELY injured someone with loaded wraps....yet your all so happy that he has been severely injured. Remember Margarito didnt kill anyone with loaded wrap neither did he hurt them badly enough to end a career so what you guys are asking for seems like over kill.


Dont hear anyone bagging tito for his wraps?


I mention death because these things can lead to that, the way people are talking it sounds like people wouldnt mind if it happened to margarito.

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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Well I think its pretty stupid that everyone is pissed coz Margarito could of SEVERELY injured someone with loaded wraps....yet your all so happy that he has been severely injured. Remember Margarito didnt kill anyone with loaded wrap neither did he hurt them badly enough to end a career so what you guys are asking for seems like over kill.


Dont hear anyone bagging tito for his wraps?


I mention death because these things can lead to that, the way people are talking it sounds like people wouldnt mind if it happened to margarito.

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he didn't but came very close to ruining Miguel Cotto's career in a fight that IMO he did use them in, and just cause he didn't manage to do so doesn't erase the fact that he didn't give a fuck at the thought that he could have done just that, so fuck the cheating fucker

and as for the Tito remark, Trinidad NEVER used plaster, the only drama over his wraps was that the way that Trinidad's father wrapped his hands put more gauze over the knuckles tightly instead of around his wrist, it's only illegal in NY and not in any of the other states, so if it would have taken place in CA or Vegas it wouldn't have even been an issue, lets not compare apples and oranges just to try and get your little message across

anyways to me it breaks down like this, would you feel sorry for a pedophile if he was convicted and then by chance raped by a big gorilla of a man in prison? it's called karma and Margarito deserves every bit of it

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he didn't but came very close to ruining Miguel Cotto's career in a fight that IMO he did use them in, and just cause he didn't manage to do so doesn't erase the fact that he didn't give a fuck at the thought that he could have done just that, so fuck the cheating fucker

and as for the Tito remark, Trinidad NEVER used plaster, the only drama over his wraps was that the way that Trinidad's father wrapped his hands put more gauze over the knuckles tightly instead of around his wrist, it's only illegal in NY and not in any of the other states, so if it would have taken place in CA or Vegas it wouldn't have even been an issue, lets not compare apples and oranges just to try and get your little message across

anyways to me it breaks down like this, would you feel sorry for a pedophile if he was convicted and then by chance raped by a big gorilla of a man in prison? it's called karma and Margarito deserves every bit of it

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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Well I think its pretty stupid that everyone is pissed coz Margarito could of SEVERELY injured someone with loaded wraps....yet your all so happy that he has been severely injured. Remember Margarito didnt kill anyone with loaded wrap neither did he hurt them badly enough to end a career so what you guys are asking for seems like over kill.


Dont hear anyone bagging tito for his wraps?


I mention death because these things can lead to that, the way people are talking it sounds like people wouldnt mind if it happened to margarito.

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he didn't but came very close to ruining Miguel Cotto's career in a fight that IMO he did use them in, and just cause he didn't manage to do so doesn't erase the fact that he didn't give a fuck at the thought that he could have done just that, so fuck the cheating fucker

and as for the Tito remark, Trinidad NEVER used plaster, the only drama over his wraps was that the way that Trinidad's father wrapped his hands put more gauze over the knuckles tightly instead of around his wrist, it's only illegal in NY and not in any of the other states, so if it would have taken place in CA or Vegas it wouldn't have even been an issue, lets not compare apples and oranges just to try and get your little message across

anyways to me it breaks down like this, would you feel sorry for a pedophile if he was convicted and then by chance raped by a big gorilla of a man in prison? it's called karma and Margarito deserves every bit of it

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Dude....were Titos wraps illegal? Yes or no ? If so, theyre illegal for a reason. Dont pick and choose who you call cheating fucker...did Tito attempt to cheat ?

Mate a paedofile and a boxer who used illegal waps are too different things, youve taken it to a completely different extreme. I woudnt give a fuck if a paedofile was killed in the most brutal way possible because what they do is completely evil and fucked up. Margarito had loaded wraps...yes its wrong and yes he deserved an arse whooping. But does he deserved to be physically impaired for the rest of his life....no.

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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Well I think its pretty stupid that everyone is pissed coz Margarito could of SEVERELY injured someone with loaded wraps....yet your all so happy that he has been severely injured. Remember Margarito didnt kill anyone with loaded wrap neither did he hurt them badly enough to end a career so what you guys are asking for seems like over kill.


Dont hear anyone bagging tito for his wraps?


I mention death because these things can lead to that, the way people are talking it sounds like people wouldnt mind if it happened to margarito.

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he didn't but came very close to ruining Miguel Cotto's career in a fight that IMO he did use them in, and just cause he didn't manage to do so doesn't erase the fact that he didn't give a fuck at the thought that he could have done just that, so fuck the cheating fucker

and as for the Tito remark, Trinidad NEVER used plaster, the only drama over his wraps was that the way that Trinidad's father wrapped his hands put more gauze over the knuckles tightly instead of around his wrist, it's only illegal in NY and not in any of the other states, so if it would have taken place in CA or Vegas it wouldn't have even been an issue, lets not compare apples and oranges just to try and get your little message across

anyways to me it breaks down like this, would you feel sorry for a pedophile if he was convicted and then by chance raped by a big gorilla of a man in prison? it's called karma and Margarito deserves every bit of it

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Dude....were Titos wraps illegal? Yes or no ? If so, theyre illegal for a reason. Dont pick and choose who you call cheating fucker...did Tito attempt to cheat ?

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I remember an interview with Nazeem Richardson where he was talking about both wrappings incident and he clearly said that Tito did only some "abrazive" to the rules where Margarito was plainly cheating. There is a huge difference between not wrapping hands correctly or introducing some lethal material in it. Tito was more of a minor infraction where Margarito was plainly criminal.

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Dude....were Titos wraps illegal? Yes or no ? If so, theyre illegal for a reason. Dont pick and choose who you call cheating fucker...did Tito attempt to cheat ?

Mate a paedofile and a boxer who used illegal waps are too different things, youve taken it to a completely different extreme. I woudnt give a fuck if a paedofile was killed in the most brutal way possible because what they do is completely evil and fucked up. Margarito had loaded wraps...yes its wrong and yes he deserved an arse whooping. But does he deserved to be physically impaired for the rest of his life....no[/B].

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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Well I think its pretty stupid that everyone is pissed coz Margarito could of SEVERELY injured someone with loaded wraps....yet your all so happy that he has been severely injured. Remember Margarito didnt kill anyone with loaded wrap neither did he hurt them badly enough to end a career so what you guys are asking for seems like over kill.


Dont hear anyone bagging tito for his wraps?


I mention death because these things can lead to that, the way people are talking it sounds like people wouldnt mind if it happened to margarito.

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he didn't but came very close to ruining Miguel Cotto's career in a fight that IMO he did use them in, and just cause he didn't manage to do so doesn't erase the fact that he didn't give a fuck at the thought that he could have done just that, so fuck the cheating fucker

and as for the Tito remark, Trinidad NEVER used plaster, the only drama over his wraps was that the way that Trinidad's father wrapped his hands put more gauze over the knuckles tightly instead of around his wrist, it's only illegal in NY and not in any of the other states, so if it would have taken place in CA or Vegas it wouldn't have even been an issue, lets not compare apples and oranges just to try and get your little message across

anyways to me it breaks down like this, would you feel sorry for a pedophile if he was convicted and then by chance raped by a big gorilla of a man in prison? it's called karma and Margarito deserves every bit of it

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Dude....were Titos wraps illegal? Yes or no ? If so, theyre illegal for a reason. Dont pick and choose who you call cheating fucker...did Tito attempt to cheat ?

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I remember an interview with Nazeem Richardson where he was talking about both wrappings incident and he clearly said that Tito did only some "abrazive" to the rules where Margarito was plainly cheating. There is a huge difference between not wrapping hands correctly or introducing some lethal material in it. Tito was more of a minor infraction where Margarito was plainly criminal.

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Yeah i get that, im not saying Titos was worse...but its still illegal. You cant say one wrapping incident is fair enough and the other isnt. One may be worse than the other but in the end it they were both technically cheating. If it wasnt then why was tito pulled up for it, theres gotta be a reason why you cant do it.


Look my point is margarito shouldnt of done what he did, i have condemned him in the past for it too....but he got his arse whooping, he took it like a man...but he didnt need to get seriously injured from it. The fact that people are happy about it makes me think they wouldnt of cared if he died in the ring.

Thats its it !!! Ive said my bit, if you dont agree then thats your opinion.

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Look my point is margarito shouldnt of done what he did, i have condemned him in the past for it too....but he got his arse whooping, he took it like a man...but he didnt need to get seriously injured from it. The fact that people are happy about it makes me think they wouldnt of cared if he died in the ring.

Thats its it !!! Ive said my bit, if you dont agree then thats your opinion.

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Fuck off. There is being happy someone got what was coming to them but wishing death on someone? I can guarantee that 99% of the people on here who would be gutted if ANYONE died in the ring, regardless of what he had done prior to that. It's a ridiculous thing to say.

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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Well I think its pretty stupid that everyone is pissed coz Margarito could of SEVERELY injured someone with loaded wraps....yet your all so happy that he has been severely injured. Remember Margarito didnt kill anyone with loaded wrap neither did he hurt them badly enough to end a career so what you guys are asking for seems like over kill.


Dont hear anyone bagging tito for his wraps?


I mention death because these things can lead to that, the way people are talking it sounds like people wouldnt mind if it happened to margarito.

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he didn't but came very close to ruining Miguel Cotto's career in a fight that IMO he did use them in, and just cause he didn't manage to do so doesn't erase the fact that he didn't give a fuck at the thought that he could have done just that, so fuck the cheating fucker

and as for the Tito remark, Trinidad NEVER used plaster, the only drama over his wraps was that the way that Trinidad's father wrapped his hands put more gauze over the knuckles tightly instead of around his wrist, it's only illegal in NY and not in any of the other states, so if it would have taken place in CA or Vegas it wouldn't have even been an issue, lets not compare apples and oranges just to try and get your little message across

anyways to me it breaks down like this, would you feel sorry for a pedophile if he was convicted and then by chance raped by a big gorilla of a man in prison? it's called karma and Margarito deserves every bit of it

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Dude....were Titos wraps illegal? Yes or no ? If so, theyre illegal for a reason. Dont pick and choose who you call cheating fucker...did Tito attempt to cheat ?

Mate a paedofile and a boxer who used illegal waps are too different things, youve taken it to a completely different extreme. I woudnt give a fuck if a paedofile was killed in the most brutal way possible because what they do is completely evil and fucked up. Margarito had loaded wraps...yes its wrong and yes he deserved an arse whooping. But does he deserved to be physically impaired for the rest of his life....no.

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Please man such is an apples and oranges argument. Tito never inserted cement plugs into his wraps and instead was told to re-wrap because of gauze direction. His dad wrapped the same way his entire career and the gloves were signed off each time. What Margarito did was quite different. Instead of pulling the stuffing out like Lewis did with Resto,they added. The intent was the same. And if you are going to label Tito a cheater you better label Oscar and Roach cheaters. Oscar would use twisted packing tape in his wraps and he was never called on it and under Roach's watch. I could care less if Margarito ever boxed again. Resto gets 3 years in jail and is never licensed to box again.Fast forward to 2011 and Margaresto get a multi million dollar pay day. Pathetic.

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Please man such is an apples and oranges argument. Tito never inserted cement plugs into his wraps and instead was told to re-wrap because of gauze direction. His dad wrapped the same way his entire career and the gloves were signed off each time. What Margarito did was quite different. Instead of pulling the stuffing out like Lewis did with Resto,they added. The intent was the same. And if you are going to label Tito a cheater you better label Oscar and Roach cheaters. Oscar would use twisted packing tape in his wraps and he was never called on it and under Roach's watch. I could care less if Margarito ever boxed again. Resto gets 3 years in jail and is never licensed to box again.Fast forward to 2011 and Margaresto get a multi million dollar pay day. Pathetic.

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Im amazed at responses to this. You guys do realise that this is all bad press for boxing right? Yes Margarito cheated and hes an arsehole (bad press for boxing) but the media doesnt see this as a good thing, theyd turn this into a "boxing is too dangerous' article.

Career ending injuries too ANYONE in a fight does no favours for the sport. Margarito was punished by the boxing authorities for what he has done, he doesnt need to die in the ring to make up for it.

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The mainstream sports media doesn't give two shits about boxing anymore. This isn't even a blip on their radar.

Antonio Margarito is not having an easy time with an eye injury he recieved last year in November when he fought and lost to Manny Pacquiao. According to a report in the LA Times, Margarito is set to undergo an eye examination next week. Its possible that the eye injury (to his right eye) could stop Margarito from ever fighting again.

Boxing Promoter Bob Arum, quoted in the LA Times had this to say: "The eye is still giving him trouble; it has not completely healed."

Robert Garcia who is Margarito's trainer and close friend is worried over the injury Garcia stated: "It's hard to think that he'll have to maybe quit like this when there's still million-dollar paydays out there for him. I always tell these guys to invest their money when they get it, because that next big fight might never come. This is a big hit. He's a close friend."


What are peoples thoughts?

I would of loved to see a Cotto rematch, but then on the other hand alot of people will probably be happy with this.

well he can always continue to play Teddy in prison break, instead of boxing.

Shit sorry my man Bulldog has already got a thread about this, MODS can one of you sort it out thanks.

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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Well I think its pretty stupid that everyone is pissed coz Margarito could of SEVERELY injured someone with loaded wraps....yet your all so happy that he has been severely injured. Remember Margarito didnt kill anyone with loaded wrap neither did he hurt them badly enough to end a career so what you guys are asking for seems like over kill.


Dont hear anyone bagging tito for his wraps?


I mention death because these things can lead to that, the way people are talking it sounds like people wouldnt mind if it happened to margarito.

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he didn't but came very close to ruining Miguel Cotto's career in a fight that IMO he did use them in, and just cause he didn't manage to do so doesn't erase the fact that he didn't give a fuck at the thought that he could have done just that, so fuck the cheating fucker

and as for the Tito remark, Trinidad NEVER used plaster, the only drama over his wraps was that the way that Trinidad's father wrapped his hands put more gauze over the knuckles tightly instead of around his wrist, it's only illegal in NY and not in any of the other states, so if it would have taken place in CA or Vegas it wouldn't have even been an issue, lets not compare apples and oranges just to try and get your little message across

anyways to me it breaks down like this, would you feel sorry for a pedophile if he was convicted and then by chance raped by a big gorilla of a man in prison? it's called karma and Margarito deserves every bit of it

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Dude....were Titos wraps illegal? Yes or no ? If so, theyre illegal for a reason. Dont pick and choose who you call cheating fucker...did Tito attempt to cheat ?

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I remember an interview with Nazeem Richardson where he was talking about both wrappings incident and he clearly said that Tito did only some "abrazive" to the rules where Margarito was plainly cheating. There is a huge difference between not wrapping hands correctly or introducing some lethal material in it. Tito was more of a minor infraction where Margarito was plainly criminal.

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Yeah i get that, im not saying Titos was worse...but its still illegal. You cant say one wrapping incident is fair enough and the other isnt. One may be worse than the other but in the end it they were both technically cheating. If it wasnt then why was tito pulled up for it, theres gotta be a reason why you cant do it.


Look my point is margarito shouldnt of done what he did, i have condemned him in the past for it too....but he got his arse whooping, he took it like a man...but he didnt need to get seriously injured from it. The fact that people are happy about it makes me think they wouldnt of cared if he died in the ring.

Thats its it !!! Ive said my bit, if you dont agree then thats your opinion.

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again it's like comparing apples and oranges, Trinidad's wraps were not illegal in any other state other than NY, so it's a non-issue really, on the other hand loaded plaster wraps are internationally illegal in the sport of boxing, so don't get why you keep comparing the two

his face is too broke to fight again? that`s a shame.

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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Well I think its pretty stupid that everyone is pissed coz Margarito could of SEVERELY injured someone with loaded wraps....yet your all so happy that he has been severely injured. Remember Margarito didnt kill anyone with loaded wrap neither did he hurt them badly enough to end a career so what you guys are asking for seems like over kill.


Dont hear anyone bagging tito for his wraps?


I mention death because these things can lead to that, the way people are talking it sounds like people wouldnt mind if it happened to margarito.

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he didn't but came very close to ruining Miguel Cotto's career in a fight that IMO he did use them in, and just cause he didn't manage to do so doesn't erase the fact that he didn't give a fuck at the thought that he could have done just that, so fuck the cheating fucker

and as for the Tito remark, Trinidad NEVER used plaster, the only drama over his wraps was that the way that Trinidad's father wrapped his hands put more gauze over the knuckles tightly instead of around his wrist, it's only illegal in NY and not in any of the other states, so if it would have taken place in CA or Vegas it wouldn't have even been an issue, lets not compare apples and oranges just to try and get your little message across

anyways to me it breaks down like this, would you feel sorry for a pedophile if he was convicted and then by chance raped by a big gorilla of a man in prison? it's called karma and Margarito deserves every bit of it

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Dude....were Titos wraps illegal? Yes or no ? If so, theyre illegal for a reason. Dont pick and choose who you call cheating fucker...did Tito attempt to cheat ?

Mate a paedofile and a boxer who used illegal waps are too different things, youve taken it to a completely different extreme. I woudnt give a fuck if a paedofile was killed in the most brutal way possible because what they do is completely evil and fucked up. Margarito had loaded wraps...yes its wrong and yes he deserved an arse whooping. But does he deserved to be physically impaired for the rest of his life....no.

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Please man such is an apples and oranges argument. Tito never inserted cement plugs into his wraps and instead was told to re-wrap because of gauze direction. His dad wrapped the same way his entire career and the gloves were signed off each time. What Margarito did was quite different. Instead of pulling the stuffing out like Lewis did with Resto,they added. The intent was the same. And if you are going to label Tito a cheater you better label Oscar and Roach cheaters. Oscar would use twisted packing tape in his wraps and he was never called on it and under Roach's watch. I could care less if Margarito ever boxed again. Resto gets 3 years in jail and is never licensed to box again.Fast forward to 2011 and Margaresto get a multi million dollar pay day. Pathetic.

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Mate I dont care whether is oscar, tyson, JMM, Morales, Pac or Kid Thunder...if you wrap your hands in an illegal manner than it is ILLEGAL !!!! Its obviousy done for a reason and I think in titos case it was done so their was more over the knuckles than what there is supposed to be.

I dont get how no one gets my point - Your basically cheering for a fighter to be hurt for the rest of his life....when even he didnt do that to anyone. By the way we dont know whether he used them in the cotto fight and thats coz cottos corner was too stupid to watch him get his hands wrapped which is common practice in my book. Mosley avoided it so Cottos corner has no excuse for not picking up such a massive error on the world stage.

Bottom line margarito should of been banned for life for what he did. I would of been happy if that beating put him into retirement because he realised he was no longer effective without illegal wraps....not because hes too hurt to keep fighting.

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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Well I think its pretty stupid that everyone is pissed coz Margarito could of SEVERELY injured someone with loaded wraps....yet your all so happy that he has been severely injured. Remember Margarito didnt kill anyone with loaded wrap neither did he hurt them badly enough to end a career so what you guys are asking for seems like over kill.


Dont hear anyone bagging tito for his wraps?


I mention death because these things can lead to that, the way people are talking it sounds like people wouldnt mind if it happened to margarito.

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he didn't but came very close to ruining Miguel Cotto's career in a fight that IMO he did use them in, and just cause he didn't manage to do so doesn't erase the fact that he didn't give a fuck at the thought that he could have done just that, so fuck the cheating fucker

and as for the Tito remark, Trinidad NEVER used plaster, the only drama over his wraps was that the way that Trinidad's father wrapped his hands put more gauze over the knuckles tightly instead of around his wrist, it's only illegal in NY and not in any of the other states, so if it would have taken place in CA or Vegas it wouldn't have even been an issue, lets not compare apples and oranges just to try and get your little message across

anyways to me it breaks down like this, would you feel sorry for a pedophile if he was convicted and then by chance raped by a big gorilla of a man in prison? it's called karma and Margarito deserves every bit of it

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Dude....were Titos wraps illegal? Yes or no ? If so, theyre illegal for a reason. Dont pick and choose who you call cheating fucker...did Tito attempt to cheat ?

Mate a paedofile and a boxer who used illegal waps are too different things, youve taken it to a completely different extreme. I woudnt give a fuck if a paedofile was killed in the most brutal way possible because what they do is completely evil and fucked up. Margarito had loaded wraps...yes its wrong and yes he deserved an arse whooping. But does he deserved to be physically impaired for the rest of his life....no.

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Please man such is an apples and oranges argument. Tito never inserted cement plugs into his wraps and instead was told to re-wrap because of gauze direction. His dad wrapped the same way his entire career and the gloves were signed off each time. What Margarito did was quite different. Instead of pulling the stuffing out like Lewis did with Resto,they added. The intent was the same. And if you are going to label Tito a cheater you better label Oscar and Roach cheaters. Oscar would use twisted packing tape in his wraps and he was never called on it and under Roach's watch. I could care less if Margarito ever boxed again. Resto gets 3 years in jail and is never licensed to box again.Fast forward to 2011 and Margaresto get a multi million dollar pay day. Pathetic.

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Mate I dont care whether is oscar, tyson, JMM, Morales, Pac or Kid Thunder...if you wrap your hands in an illegal manner than it is ILLEGAL !!!! Its obviousy done for a reason and I think in titos case it was done so their was more over the knuckles than what there is supposed to be. Look friend, their are degrees. The way vs the added. Tito never built a metal plunger, Margarito did and imo the evidence can show that he did it for years.

I dont get how no one gets my point - Your basically cheering for a fighter to be hurt for the rest of his life....when even he didnt do that to anyone. Are you serious? I said I hope he never earns another nickel and that Karma met its mark. That s what I said.

By the way we dont know whether he used them in the cotto fight and thats coz cottos corner was too stupid to watch him get his hands wrapped which is common practice in my book. Not a giant leap of faith considering Lujans ear.

Mosley avoided it so Cottos corner has no excuse for not picking up such a massive error on the world stage. Your not cheating if you don't get caught?

Bottom line margarito should of been banned for life for what he did. I would of been happy if that beating put him into retirement because he realised he was no longer effective without illegal wraps....not because hes too hurt to keep fighting. I could care less either way.

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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Well I think its pretty stupid that everyone is pissed coz Margarito could of SEVERELY injured someone with loaded wraps....yet your all so happy that he has been severely injured. Remember Margarito didnt kill anyone with loaded wrap neither did he hurt them badly enough to end a career so what you guys are asking for seems like over kill.


Dont hear anyone bagging tito for his wraps?


I mention death because these things can lead to that, the way people are talking it sounds like people wouldnt mind if it happened to margarito.

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he didn't but came very close to ruining Miguel Cotto's career in a fight that IMO he did use them in, and just cause he didn't manage to do so doesn't erase the fact that he didn't give a fuck at the thought that he could have done just that, so fuck the cheating fucker

and as for the Tito remark, Trinidad NEVER used plaster, the only drama over his wraps was that the way that Trinidad's father wrapped his hands put more gauze over the knuckles tightly instead of around his wrist, it's only illegal in NY and not in any of the other states, so if it would have taken place in CA or Vegas it wouldn't have even been an issue, lets not compare apples and oranges just to try and get your little message across

anyways to me it breaks down like this, would you feel sorry for a pedophile if he was convicted and then by chance raped by a big gorilla of a man in prison? it's called karma and Margarito deserves every bit of it

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Dude....were Titos wraps illegal? Yes or no ? If so, theyre illegal for a reason. Dont pick and choose who you call cheating fucker...did Tito attempt to cheat ?

Mate a paedofile and a boxer who used illegal waps are too different things, youve taken it to a completely different extreme. I woudnt give a fuck if a paedofile was killed in the most brutal way possible because what they do is completely evil and fucked up. Margarito had loaded wraps...yes its wrong and yes he deserved an arse whooping. But does he deserved to be physically impaired for the rest of his life....no.

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Please man such is an apples and oranges argument. Tito never inserted cement plugs into his wraps and instead was told to re-wrap because of gauze direction. His dad wrapped the same way his entire career and the gloves were signed off each time. What Margarito did was quite different. Instead of pulling the stuffing out like Lewis did with Resto,they added. The intent was the same. And if you are going to label Tito a cheater you better label Oscar and Roach cheaters. Oscar would use twisted packing tape in his wraps and he was never called on it and under Roach's watch. I could care less if Margarito ever boxed again. Resto gets 3 years in jail and is never licensed to box again.Fast forward to 2011 and Margaresto get a multi million dollar pay day. Pathetic.

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Mate I dont care whether is oscar, tyson, JMM, Morales, Pac or Kid Thunder...if you wrap your hands in an illegal manner than it is ILLEGAL !!!! Its obviousy done for a reason and I think in titos case it was done so their was more over the knuckles than what there is supposed to be. Look friend, their are degrees. The way vs the added. Tito never built a metal plunger, Margarito did and imo the evidence can show that he did it for years.

I dont get how no one gets my point - Your basically cheering for a fighter to be hurt for the rest of his life....when even he didnt do that to anyone. Are you serious? I said I hope he never earns another nickel and that Karma met its mark. That s what I said.

By the way we dont know whether he used them in the cotto fight and thats coz cottos corner was too stupid to watch him get his hands wrapped which is common practice in my book. Not a giant leap of faith considering Lujans ear.

Mosley avoided it so Cottos corner has no excuse for not picking up such a massive error on the world stage. Your not cheating if you don't get caught?

Bottom line margarito should of been banned for life for what he did. I would of been happy if that beating put him into retirement because he realised he was no longer effective without illegal wraps....not because hes too hurt to keep fighting. I could care less either way.

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First off....i never said Titos was worse than what margarito did, theres no doubt that what Margarito did was waaaaay worse by around 100 times. But im just stating a fact, that its an illegal wrap that is designed to make the boxer punch harder yet no one seems to care about it.

Yes but not earning another nickel because hes injured from a fight is still pretty bad. Your eye is a vital part of your body and to have it damaged to a point where it may not recover is quite serious and it affects alot of things in every day life.

I didnt say its not cheating, im just saying its hard to complain when they had the opportunity to stop it.

Obvisouly my opinion is unpopular but I dont really care. To me this is pretty much pick and choose. Nigel Benn basically rabbit punched McClellan into a coma, Mike Tyson bit Holyfields ear and tried to break a guys arm, Castillo came in blatantly overweight against chico in the second fight which made it a mismatch, Tito wrapped his hands illegally for yrs yet no one wished that these guys never fought again. These were all things done knowinly that could cause extra damage to an opponent that were all illegal.

But anyway this is my last post in this thread because I know im just going to be told im dramatising it and that people just dont give a fuck.

Damn. How in the world could one fighter inflict such brutal punishment on another guy over the distance as a result of repeatedly punching him in the face. Simply amazing :p

If there is any doubt on being 100% he should def get out...and someone watch Arum so he doesn't prop up a half blind mega payday of a name.

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So youd damage the sport just for the sake of getting back at one fighter?


Boxing doesnt need another blemish on it, margarito already gave it one with his scandal he doesnt need to add another with a severe injury or death in the ring.

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He took a severe beating and now may be forced to retire from it.

This isn't a blemish on the sport as you put it, he took a beating (like a man) and may have to retire. That's the risk when you step into a ring. It's happened to many others but this time some people can smile at his misfortune. So what? Each to their own.

By the way, I don't know why you keep mentioning death, no one has said they want him to die. I think you're being a little dramatic.

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Well I think its pretty stupid that everyone is pissed coz Margarito could of SEVERELY injured someone with loaded wraps....yet your all so happy that he has been severely injured. Remember Margarito didnt kill anyone with loaded wrap neither did he hurt them badly enough to end a career so what you guys are asking for seems like over kill.


Dont hear anyone bagging tito for his wraps?


I mention death because these things can lead to that, the way people are talking it sounds like people wouldnt mind if it happened to margarito.

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he didn't but came very close to ruining Miguel Cotto's career in a fight that IMO he did use them in, and just cause he didn't manage to do so doesn't erase the fact that he didn't give a fuck at the thought that he could have done just that, so fuck the cheating fucker

and as for the Tito remark, Trinidad NEVER used plaster, the only drama over his wraps was that the way that Trinidad's father wrapped his hands put more gauze over the knuckles tightly instead of around his wrist, it's only illegal in NY and not in any of the other states, so if it would have taken place in CA or Vegas it wouldn't have even been an issue, lets not compare apples and oranges just to try and get your little message across

anyways to me it breaks down like this, would you feel sorry for a pedophile if he was convicted and then by chance raped by a big gorilla of a man in prison? it's called karma and Margarito deserves every bit of it

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Dude....were Titos wraps illegal? Yes or no ? If so, theyre illegal for a reason. Dont pick and choose who you call cheating fucker...did Tito attempt to cheat ?

Mate a paedofile and a boxer who used illegal waps are too different things, youve taken it to a completely different extreme. I woudnt give a fuck if a paedofile was killed in the most brutal way possible because what they do is completely evil and fucked up. Margarito had loaded wraps...yes its wrong and yes he deserved an arse whooping. But does he deserved to be physically impaired for the rest of his life....no.

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Please man such is an apples and oranges argument. Tito never inserted cement plugs into his wraps and instead was told to re-wrap because of gauze direction. His dad wrapped the same way his entire career and the gloves were signed off each time. What Margarito did was quite different. Instead of pulling the stuffing out like Lewis did with Resto,they added. The intent was the same. And if you are going to label Tito a cheater you better label Oscar and Roach cheaters. Oscar would use twisted packing tape in his wraps and he was never called on it and under Roach's watch. I could care less if Margarito ever boxed again. Resto gets 3 years in jail and is never licensed to box again.Fast forward to 2011 and Margaresto get a multi million dollar pay day. Pathetic.

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Mate I dont care whether is oscar, tyson, JMM, Morales, Pac or Kid Thunder...if you wrap your hands in an illegal manner than it is ILLEGAL !!!! Its obviousy done for a reason and I think in titos case it was done so their was more over the knuckles than what there is supposed to be. Look friend, their are degrees. The way vs the added. Tito never built a metal plunger, Margarito did and imo the evidence can show that he did it for years.

I dont get how no one gets my point - Your basically cheering for a fighter to be hurt for the rest of his life....when even he didnt do that to anyone. Are you serious? I said I hope he never earns another nickel and that Karma met its mark. That s what I said.

By the way we dont know whether he used them in the cotto fight and thats coz cottos corner was too stupid to watch him get his hands wrapped which is common practice in my book. Not a giant leap of faith considering Lujans ear.

Mosley avoided it so Cottos corner has no excuse for not picking up such a massive error on the world stage. Your not cheating if you don't get caught?

Bottom line margarito should of been banned for life for what he did. I would of been happy if that beating put him into retirement because he realised he was no longer effective without illegal wraps....not because hes too hurt to keep fighting. I could care less either way.

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First off....i never said Titos was worse than what margarito did, theres no doubt that what Margarito did was waaaaay worse by around 100 times. But im just stating a fact, that its an illegal wrap that is designed to make the boxer punch harder yet no one seems to care about it.

Yes but not earning another nickel because hes injured from a fight is still pretty bad. Your eye is a vital part of your body and to have it damaged to a point where it may not recover is quite serious and it affects alot of things in every day life.

I didnt say its not cheating, im just saying its hard to complain when they had the opportunity to stop it.

Obvisouly my opinion is unpopular but I dont really care. To me this is pretty much pick and choose. Nigel Benn basically rabbit punched McClellan into a coma, Mike Tyson bit Holyfields ear and tried to break a guys arm, Castillo came in blatantly overweight against chico in the second fight which made it a mismatch, Tito wrapped his hands illegally for yrs yet no one wished that these guys never fought again. These were all things done knowinly that could cause extra damage to an opponent that were all illegal.

But anyway this is my last post in this thread because I know im just going to be told im dramatising it and that people just dont give a fuck.

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once again bringing up Trinidad, do you not get the point that his wraps are ONLY ILLEGAL IN NY, so therefore his wraps were LEGAL IN VEGAS where most of his fights took place, meaning that his name and Margarito's don't belong anywhere close to each other

you're just clutching at straws bro, Margarito used illegal wraps that could have cause any of his opponents permanent damage, he was given only a slap on the wrist and rewarded with a multi million dollar payday, only to have his ass handed to him and possibly retired for good

if anything this whole ordeal just puts and exclamation point on to how fucked up what Margarito tried to do was, if Manny Pacquiao was able to end a man's career legally with no plaster imagine what the cheating fucker Margarito could have done to any other guy he might have cheated against

the stupid shit is going to be able to live out a normal life, he's made millions even after cheating, so not really hard to feel too sorry for the bastard, now he can just get out of boxing altogether and not have to be heard of again

I'm not one for karma or any such imaginary concepts, but the fact that Margarito is potentially out of a career due to a facial injury after being banned for attempting to load his gloves is kind of ironic. I don't really care either way if Margarito continues or not, but he has been extremely fortunate to recieve a massive payday against Manny. He didn't deserve that fight, so what more could he have asked for. Might as well invest prudently and then sail into the sunset.

As things stand that Pac fight should really have been stopped much earlier. I don't know why the ref didn't do so. The respionsibility lies with him. "How many fingers?" he asks while the one good eye is free to count them. Sigh. :rolleyes:

The fight with Pac Man was brilliant and he made him fight every second of that fight. Pac did damage that eye socket very badly and I was thinking he needed more time to recover.

Ballsey! Robert Garcia blurted out, pseudo praising his now turned grotesque fighter, Antonio Margarito, as the Mexican junior middleweight fighter grabs a seat, quite unsure of his whereabouts.

From the looks... likewise unsure where to even land his tired self, beaten to a pulp but somehow still eliciting a continued praise as if he is the one administering the ass-kicking!

Given a few more precious seconds, catching his wits, out of the 45-second respite in between rounds, he begins to ponder, only this time, he was unsure of a more important matter...will there be tomorrow, still?

Ahead before him and his, after this terrible beating, what lies ahead...

In the background, under a tone of encouragement, he still faintly hears how remarkable the courage he is displaying. ....Deep inside though, he feels quite the opposite, he was scared shitless! Not borne out of immediacy, but for much later... what will become of all this!

Under his breath, words that never found a voice, "please, Robert, stop this beating, I've already had enough". He looks around pleadingly, to the referee, and to his corner. No reprieve. Repeats the lookout a few more... till the bell rang signifying the need for readiness to a further beating! ;)

Fiction!

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"He's prepared if he can't fight any more" - Robert Garcia on Margarito's future - Las Vegas Boxing | Examiner.com

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I'm not one for karma or any such imaginary concepts, but the fact that Margarito is potentially out of a career due to a facial injury after being banned for attempting to load his gloves is kind of ironic. I don't really care either way if Margarito continues or not, but he has been extremely fortunate to recieve a massive payday against Manny. He didn't deserve that fight, so what more could he have asked for. Might as well invest prudently and then sail into the sunset.

As things stand that Pac fight should really have been stopped much earlier. I don't know why the ref didn't do so. The respionsibility lies with him. "How many fingers?" he asks while the one good eye is free to count them. Sigh. :rolleyes:

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What did you expect? It's Laurence Cole. The guy shouldn't be allowed to step into a ring again. I somehow knew he'd mess things up, again.. for the 100th time in his "career". Blame goes to Garcia too.