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wlad has a worse chin than khan
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wlad has a worse chin than khan
I hope Haye clocks this guy good but in fairness to Wlad he was absolutely punched out and did not know how to clinch in that fight.
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Originally Posted by IamInuit
i dont think thats being fair, he was battering brewstrer until he kind of hit him back
....exactly. He punched himself out!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
i dont think thats being fair, he was battering brewstrer until he kind of hit him back
I think he is a different fighter now and whilst I still don't rate him particlarly highly, I still think he smokes Haye inside 6.
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Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
i dont think thats being fair, he was battering brewstrer until he kind of hit him back
Hit hit Brewster with everything but the kitchen sink but he gassed out terribly. Had he known how to clinch he may have actually survived. Now he knows how. Hayes speed is the difference here and the reason he gets to Wlad. Peter was able to get both over and under Wlads jab and he's about as fast as a two toed sloth. I mean I agree with you that Wlads chin cant cope with Hayes power but don't agree with the example to show it.
that is a fantastic excuse for having such a chinQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H....exactly. He punched himself out!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
i dont think thats being fair, he was battering brewstrer until he kind of hit him back
I think he is a different fighter now and whilst I still don't rate him particlarly highly, I still think he smokes Haye inside 6.
did hatton punch homself out against pac too?
Yawn, yawn, why would I make excuses for a fighter I don't even remotely like :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44that is a fantastic excuse for having such a chinQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H....exactly. He punched himself out!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
i dont think thats being fair, he was battering brewstrer until he kind of hit him back
I think he is a different fighter now and whilst I still don't rate him particlarly highly, I still think he smokes Haye inside 6.
did hatton punch homself out against pac too?
the only acceptable answer to 'why haye will beat klitschko' is 'because i am british' ;)
look man, ive seen boxers punch themselves out, but wlad took one slight punch and it was overQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HYawn, yawn, why would I make excuses for a fighter I don't even remotely like :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44that is a fantastic excuse for having such a chinQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H....exactly. He punched himself out!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
i dont think thats being fair, he was battering brewstrer until he kind of hit him back
I think he is a different fighter now and whilst I still don't rate him particlarly highly, I still think he smokes Haye inside 6.
did hatton punch homself out against pac too?
even if he was a bit tired that wasnt a show of someone who can take a punch
and he hadnt even thrown that many punches, it wasnt like he had gone all out to ko him
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Originally Posted by erics44that is a fantastic excuse for having such a chinQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H....exactly. He punched himself out!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
i dont think thats being fair, he was battering brewstrer until he kind of hit him back
I think he is a different fighter now and whilst I still don't rate him particlarly highly, I still think he smokes Haye inside 6.
did hatton punch homself out against pac too?
the brewster fight is the wrong fight to use if u want to question his chin, he was completely gassed and couldnt keep his hands up long before he got hurt, and when he did get hurt he stayed on his feet for like 7 huge clean punches and only eventually went to the ground cuz the round ended
if u wanna make a pointless 'klitschko has no chin' thread use the sanders fight
Haye has no chin as well. When Monte No Guns Barrett drops you, you have some issues.
its a why haye will beat wlad threadQuote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcherQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44that is a fantastic excuse for having such a chinQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H....exactly. He punched himself out!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
i dont think thats being fair, he was battering brewstrer until he kind of hit him back
I think he is a different fighter now and whilst I still don't rate him particlarly highly, I still think he smokes Haye inside 6.
did hatton punch homself out against pac too?
the brewster fight is the wrong fight to use if u want to question his chin, he was completely gassed and couldnt keep his hands up long before he got hurt, and when he did get hurt he stayed on his feet for like 7 huge clean punches and only eventually went to the ground cuz the round ended
if u wanna make a pointless 'klitschko has no chin' thread use the sanders fight
theres a difference :)
I think Wlad is definitely chinny, but in that fight it was all about stamina imo. When he tried to get up at the end of that round, it was sheer exhaustion stopping him.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44look man, ive seen boxers punch themselves out, but wlad took one slight punch and it was overQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HYawn, yawn, why would I make excuses for a fighter I don't even remotely like :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44that is a fantastic excuse for having such a chinQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H....exactly. He punched himself out!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
i dont think thats being fair, he was battering brewstrer until he kind of hit him back
I think he is a different fighter now and whilst I still don't rate him particlarly highly, I still think he smokes Haye inside 6.
did hatton punch homself out against pac too?
even if he was a bit tired that wasnt a show of someone who can take a punch
and he hadnt even thrown that many punches, it wasnt like he had gone all out to ko him
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Originally Posted by captainanddew
now this is a poo argument for why haye has no chin
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcherQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44that is a fantastic excuse for having such a chinQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H....exactly. He punched himself out!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
i dont think thats being fair, he was battering brewstrer until he kind of hit him back
I think he is a different fighter now and whilst I still don't rate him particlarly highly, I still think he smokes Haye inside 6.
did hatton punch homself out against pac too?
the brewster fight is the wrong fight to use if u want to question his chin, he was completely gassed and couldnt keep his hands up long before he got hurt, and when he did get hurt he stayed on his feet for like 7 huge clean punches and only eventually went to the ground cuz the round ended
if u wanna make a pointless 'klitschko has no chin' thread use the sanders fight
Lol exactly.
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Originally Posted by BIG HI think Wlad is definitely chinny, but in that fight it was all about stamina imo. When he tried to get up at the end of that round, it was sheer exhaustion stopping him.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44look man, ive seen boxers punch themselves out, but wlad took one slight punch and it was overQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HYawn, yawn, why would I make excuses for a fighter I don't even remotely like :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44that is a fantastic excuse for having such a chinQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H....exactly. He punched himself out!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
i dont think thats being fair, he was battering brewstrer until he kind of hit him back
I think he is a different fighter now and whilst I still don't rate him particlarly highly, I still think he smokes Haye inside 6.
did hatton punch homself out against pac too?
even if he was a bit tired that wasnt a show of someone who can take a punch
and he hadnt even thrown that many punches, it wasnt like he had gone all out to ko him
100% this is the case
this is back when he tried to like pressure fight and volume punch and brewster was the first guy he couldnt stop, but he was landing so many clean punches he just kept pushing himself and gassed out BAD
after that fight the genral belief was that wladimirs stamina was what would keep him from ever being successful, people didnt even blame that on his chin at the time, even people who were hating on him, they were just saying he had no cardio
btw i see haye having zero chance in this fight
honestly haye HAS to have the worst chin of anyone klitschko has ever fought since winning a world title like 12 years ago, and the hardest punches haye has ever fought is probably like monte barrett
i completely believe that its possible (i swear im not hating on haye) that haye will get TKOd by a jab
Lets not forget that Haye is no Chuvalo either and if Wlad lands a right hand flush David is going into a coma. After all is said and done, this is a who lands first fight. Wlad never saw the Sanders punch because of the southpaw angle. Interesting to see if Haye can do the same thing using speed from the other side.
Wlad got caught by Sanders only partially because Sanders was a southpaw but mainly because Wlad wasn't fighting tall which gave Sanders the angle and negated Wlad's reach and height advantages.
The WBA title holder is talented, but I just think the style match up is all wrong for him he's never fought a puncher this powerful or a boxer this technically sound.
Eric you seem to have bypassed Hayes shaky chin, knocked out clean in the am's ( funny enough Hayes team have took that video down off youtube hahah sad cunts ) Mock a career 12 stone fighter making him dance like a giraffe and numerous other knockdowns, Wlad knocks Haye out for me.
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Originally Posted by skel1983
He who lands hard and first will win!
That is true mate they both hit hard enough to ko each other, but for me Wlad is to big to strong, Haye struggled to thrown anything meanignful against Valuev and was ont he back foot all night I can't see how he controls this fight at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
He who lands hard and first will win!
It's not exactly an original sentiment to say Wlad has a poor chin. He does. But he's learned to compensate for it, he hasn't been hurt in a fight since 2005 thanks to his cautious new approach. Haye is chinny himself and still does the same dumb stuff like carrying his left by his kneecaps because he's used to taking the approach of bombing the other guy out as quick as possible. He won't be able to take the kind of pummelling Brewster took for 5 rounds, so unless he's been working on his defensive skills in secret he's getting KO'd in this one. If his plan is to leap in and throw a few bombs then he'll be disapointed when he gets hit with 20 jabs before he's in range and clinched the second he's in close enough to do any damage.
I'm still not convinced that Haye won't bail out of this fight before July 2nd, but if he doesn't, he's going to get his ass handed to him. I can't think of one advantage Haye will have against Wlad, including Wlad's allegedly "weak chin". Unfortunately for Haye you don't win fights with your mouth or with the delusions of your fans.
Absolutely true!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
The WBA title holder and his fans say he's got at least a handspeed advantage....I don't really see it that way. Wlad has very good handspeed and and even better timing, plus that jab of his should neutralize anything his opponent can throw at him especially considering his opponent was put on the back foot by Nicolay Valuev.
LOL, now if only 13 could fight the Wlad of 7 or more years ago!
You do not need an abacus to read this fight.
if you're going to use a fight for why Haye would have success. Just bring up the DaVarryl Williamson fight. He goated Wladimer into a lot of counter right hands off the back foot and even dropped him with one and laid a few traps. The only thing you can really take form the Brewster fight thats relevant now is that Wladimir can be caught with a counter jab,
True dat, and too bad for Haye that Wlad has Manny Steward as his trainer now, Steward will have Wlad ready for anything Haye tries.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui