$50 Million reasons to fight Pacquiao and only one reason not to. He said it's "Useless" Nobody's going to love me anyway, so it's a no-wins situation.
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$50 Million reasons to fight Pacquiao and only one reason not to. He said it's "Useless" Nobody's going to love me anyway, so it's a no-wins situation.
Look it's his life. If he wants to ride into the sunset with his kids and his health and his money and a limited legacy? Good for him!
But he can't have it both ways.
True, but he's always going to be ranked below Pacman and will be rememered as the guy who was so skilled and was so scared of Manny Pacquio;)
I quit holding my breath a long time ago for a PAC-PBF fight, and I could care less what Mayweather's reason for not fighting Pac is, or if this fight ever happens. As far as i'm concerned Mayweather isn't relevant to boxing anymore.
Not if he keeps beating PAC at beating like opponents first and PAC does not take the test and PAC keeps scheduling fights with aged opponents with sub 500 records in previous 1-3 fights, coming off a loss, fragile minds, catch weights , etc before the bout. Pac is beating worn fighters with known identities not peak skills. Just a matter if you are a PAC hugger or a PBF hugger. Kinda hope Ortiz manages to put away both and end all this pussy footing match making PBF an PAC have come to master ! Both will be remembered as the best of their time in a down period! PAC wil also be remembered as too scared to take a 50 million dollar test. Don't forget that as PBF is also scrutinized so is PAC they are tied at the hip. Two all time pussies whose egos were just a little too inflated. Not stuff of lengends by either one of them. Not all time greats in my books Just box office mega giants.Quote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
My thoughts on Floyd's testing demands:
1-If Floyd and his team had any evidence then I could possibly see it, but they have nothing but innuendo (but most of it doesn't make sense to me as Pac is only a few pounds bigger than when he fought and had to weigh in at 130)
2-It is a bit insulting to Pac. Alot of fans say they'd take the test. No shit-who among us wouldn't do almost anything for a huge payday. But Pac doesn't need to bow down to Floyd's demands.
3-When people make claims with no evidence it looks silly. Then to request that someone must do something out of the ordinary because of unfounded claims you have made, is a total joke.
4-It reminds me of Obama and the birth certificate. I didn't vote for the man, but damn he provided during the campaign the short form birth cerficate that is given out by the state of Hawaii if you ask for your birth certificate. And that certificate is accepted by the State Department. The Clinton campaign and the McCain campaign undoubtedly did their research. Yet some people claim he wasn't born in America. They cite no credible evidence. They just keep claiming he should have to show his long-form birth certificate. That is something that isn't requested of any other President. Eventually to shut them up, Obama has to issue it. I don't hear any apologies by the Birthers now. It is all to try to take away from the legitimacy of Obama (similar to Floyd trying anything to peck holes in Pac's legacy).
5-Testing has nothing to do with the fight. Floyd allegedly requested 100 million dollars in the last negotiations. This fight is worth alot to both fighters, but 100 million screams, "I don't want the fight so I'll start so high it isn't even worth negotiating."
quotethis perspective is exactly what I am referring to as abusive and dangerous. This perspective of "we have to do what is best for one's safety" is dangerous precisely because once the STATE takes on that Big Brother role, there is no limit, the sky is the limit.HTML Code:Back to my claim the parents have to prove they are not violating the child and if there is no foul play and if they really have love for the child there is no limit as to what they will do to set things straight. Avoidance is not an option !
If there is even a 0.00000002% chance that that man over there in the airport is a terrorist, we must now accept that "better safe than sorry" bullshit, and the TSA gets to stick their hands down everyone's pants before boarding an airliner. All in your best interests. All for your safety. HEY WHY NOT REQUIRE CCTV CAMERAS IN EVERYBODY'S HOUSES, WON'T KIDS BE EVEN SAFER FROM ABUSIVE PARENTS???
Its clear to all but the most loyal Mayweather fans Floyd is the reason the fight has not happened.
Pac-Man has just carried on without him and has become the Man that the whole world recognises as the P4P No. 1.
Mayweather will always be known as the man who ducked the Pac-Man.
I will post this again:
Just for the information of everybody.... Manny had been and is still calling Floyd to fight him.
Floyd is afraid that his zero will be tarnished so he won't fight Pac.
To be honest, I seriously think that Pac's overall skill ( speed, AGRESSIVENESS, defense and strategy) is better than Floyd and Pac's skill is GROSSLY UNDERRATED by many and most of his foes.
They would only find it out when they experience it first hand and when it is too late already.
He just made Dela Hoya, Margarito, Cotto and Shane looked like D or C type of fighters.
I will stand by what I see in Pac.
If Mayweather engages Pac, he will surely get knocked down.
If he runs around Pac, he will look like a Shane-desperately-trying-to-survive and Pac will win by UD.
If this fight happens, I will surely make a lifetime sig bet.:cool:
Oh come on Brucelee Floyd Mayweather Jr would look nothing like Shane Mosley, Floyd Mayweather Jr's counter punching style is the way to beat Manny Pacquiao. Which is why JMM had so much success.Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
Is Floyd Mayweather Jr worried about Manny Pacquiao ? probably but that doesn't mean his style isn't effective against Manny Pacquiao which it is.
I just think after what Manny Pacquiao done to Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, its made Floyd Mayweather Jr unsure of Manny Pacquiao.
Plus he's also a Southpaw which makes Floyd Mayweather Jr's, shoulder roll less effective. He got caught by two Southpaw's in Corley, Judah, and rocked by both of them.
Plus Manny Pacquiao has the power, lets put it this way Shane Mosley got outboxed by Floyd Mayweather Jr over 12 rounds. But he was still coming forward eating punches.
Where as soon as Shane Mosley felt Manny Pacquiao's power, he was on backfoot not looking to engage at all.
But i still think both of there style's will give eachother problems, which is why its intriguing fight. Shame it won't happen though which sucks for everyone who loves boxing.
...and Margarito, Cotto, and the prime Mosely.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
FACT!
Floyd wouldn't even fight Miguel Cotto he damn sure won't fight Pac.
Floyd is great and all, but like I said he never unified a division and in his career he's sidestepped a few guys that could have given him a fight. Eventually he came back around and fought Shane and Oscar which is good but Pac has done the same thing now only more impressively.
I've just read this article from boxinginsider and my suspicion about Mayweather is confirmed. While Pac is CALLING him out.... he on the other hand is trying to make this as an impossible future fight.
Floyd Mayweather Demands $100 million for Pacquiao Fight | BoxingInsider.com
Fighting Pacquiao in the eyes of PBF is a big risk because he feels like people wont give him credit for beating on a small man, as oppose to him a getting beat up by the smaller PAC whom people will think will be more impressive. He has a point:cool: but nonetheless if floyd beats PAC I'll give him full credit.
Why don't we have a donation in this forum and raise $ 100 million for Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
Who's with me?
I have a penny collection.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerWhy don't we have a donation in this forum and raise $ 100 million for Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
Who's with me?
As a floyd fan or at least former fan, he isn't scared of fighting pac. He does, however, want to begged to do it... To be dragged out of his mansion my hordes of fans that will boost his ego and tell him he can do it. Then after he does it, he wants more glad handing and statues erected in his honor and keys to every city he lives in for the rest of his life and all this nonsense. He seems to forget that he turned his back on the fans with this "money" business before his fans turned their back on him waiting to come out of another temporary retirement to fight someone beat them and demonstrate his supremacy.
No one is saying he has to fight every 2 months, but when he does fight it proves little because the fight everyone wants keeps getting put to the side so he can throw money at the camera... talk crap from a webcam and try whatever else to draw attention to himself outside the ring for months or years. He makes exits just so he can make an entrance later and announce he's back and everyone can love him again. No one doubts the man's skill, just his intent. He does little to act like a serious fighter who is chasing glory the old fashioned way.
He's paid off his debt, has a house a family and disposable income. He's lost his reason to fight and wants what the other guy has. Adoration... Kind of hard to earn that when you're a talented but fickle primadonna with a big mouth that alienates fans with stuff like racist comments. He could have been happy being a fighter, but he wanted to be a personality... .
This is exactly how I feel about the Mayweather right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
I now couldn't care less if he fights Pacquiao or even if he fights again.
He's very boring these days & if he wants to be a celebrity boxer, just having the odd fight every couple of years against anyone but Manny, then he should just get on with doing that & stop boring fight fans with his waffle.
I'm with mayweather. If he beat manny everyone would dismiss it and still criticise.
The public and all on this forum are to greedy. Mayweather dosnt care. And manny is one dimensional and a one trick pony
I don't doubt some would do that but it is not the fans as a whole and a completely wracked way to thing. He would prove himself if he did fight Pacquiao and would win more boxing fans because of it. It would do more for his name legacy as long as he is honest and even cement him as an ATG if he beat Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
I would love for Floyd to fight Pac. It would be great for boxing and an intriguing fight that would engage boxing fans for months upon end.
The thing I would love more than that, is for Floyd to just fight!!!! Floyd always had amazing talent. In the last half decade he hasn't displayed it nearly enough. It makes no sense to me. He could fight more. It would mean even more money and if those fights had been against very worthy opponents, it would have gone a long way towards helping him get the admiration of fans for his efforts in the ring (that he really desires).
Unfortunately time counts and keeps on counting and there is no fights for Floyd. Isn't the point of a great artist or athlete to produce as much as they can while at the height of their abilities!!!!! Too bad no one ever taught Floyd that.
Why do you think that Mayweather would be criticised & dismissed for fighting & beating the ONE guy that every fight fan in the world wants him to take on?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
To be honest I think floyds legacy is pretty much cemented. I think pacquiao needs floyd more than floyd needs pac.
All these old bums manny keeps beating up in one sided predictable contests aren't doing anything to boost his status.
Its a shit time in boxing and theres no one of worth for either man to fight apart from each other. And right now I think that theres no point in floyd fighting manny becasue if he won people would just say he beat up a smaller guy blah blah blah....
and you're the only one who truly believes that Floyd's legacy is cemented and Pacquaio is still blurry.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
Are you Floyd Gayweather?
How anyone could say that Pacs resume with out a doubt is better then Mayweathers is beyond me.
Well you said it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Also remembered as the guy that knocked Ricky Hattons head into the turnbuckle.;D Both are great fighters with great legacys. Who you think is better is purely your opinion. To call either not great is bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Personally, I think that Floyd forgot with all his demands with the price of his purse is that we the the fans can only put up with just so much bullshit. Floyd, shit or get off the pot. It's one complaint after another and to read or listen to your crap puts a dent in my aspirin budget. I don't know what he plans to do but there are many other fighters that work their butts off and put what money they have where their mouth is.