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Is getting your nose broken an occupational hazard of boxing?
I do know that it put me off taking up boxing as a hobby for this reason.
It also led to the defeat of Israel Vasquez in his first fight with Marquez. I think it also led to the death of Harry Grebb, who was trying to fix his nose. I also think Hector Camacho never broke his nose in his career but do not know if that is true.
Any other interesting facts about noses and boxing?
I think a busted nose is almost an inevitability if you're a pro.
Tiger Flowers died the same way Greb did.
What did Joe frazier say? "Boxing is the only sport where you get your brain shook, your money took and wind up in the undertakers book.? (something like that)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pexFc3wP9AY Just hearing it go 'snap' :-X
Arce had to have his fixed recently.
...This is why you duck, slip, block, or parry punches.
I luckily never got caught flush on the nose....I still bled like stuck pig, but eventually that wore off. I don't reckon I boxed long enough or often to get a broken nose.
I used to work with and be friends with an ex-pug who had about 50 professional fights mostly at middleweight, including one with Sugar Ray Robinson. His nose had been broken so many times during fights that it was almost flat on his face, there was little bone or cartilage left. Super guy, I ask him one time what Robinson was like, and he had a one word reply: "Baaaaad!"
Who was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
His first name was Ray, but I don't even recall his last name now. If I did, even though his name wasn't all that recognizable in the boxing world, we could still look it up in BoxRec.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHWho was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
This was back in the early 70's in Tampa, Florida were I lived for a few years after getting out of the military. (U.S. Air Force) Ray and I both drove trucks for the same company, and sometimes after work we'd visit the local watering holes in Tampa and look for some women to pickup. hehehe.
What made me think about him, was the nose, if you put a finger on it, it went almost completely flat.
In 1950 a Ray Barnes dropped a 10-round decision to Robinson, one week (:o) after Robinson TKO'd Cliff Beckett .Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axHis first name was Ray, but I don't even recall his last name now. If I did, even though his name wasn't all that recognizable in the boxing world, we could still look it up in BoxRec.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHWho was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
This was back in the early 70's in Tampa, Florida were I lived for a few years after getting of the military. (U.S. Air Force) Ray and I both drove trucks for the same company, and sometimes after work we'd visit the local watering holes in Tampa and look for some women to pickup. hehehe.
What made me think about him, was the nose, if you put a finger on it, it went almost completely flat.
Ray Barnes - Boxer
Your basic journeyman. But he was in there with some awfully good names, Robinson, the Cocoa Kid and Tommy Yaroz (even though it was a faded Yaroz). Being able to say you went the distance with Ray Robinson is no small thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHIn 1950 a Ray Barnes dropped a 10-round decision to Robinson, one week (:o) after Robinson TKO'd Cliff Beckett .Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axHis first name was Ray, but I don't even recall his last name now. If I did, even though his name wasn't all that recognizable in the boxing world, we could still look it up in BoxRec.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHWho was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
This was back in the early 70's in Tampa, Florida were I lived for a few years after getting of the military. (U.S. Air Force) Ray and I both drove trucks for the same company, and sometimes after work we'd visit the local watering holes in Tampa and look for some women to pickup. hehehe.
What made me think about him, was the nose, if you put a finger on it, it went almost completely flat.
Ray Barnes - Boxer
That's pretty cool to know of someone that went 10 rounds with SRR.
Al Berl: Rocky I'll give you one more round!Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
B-Hop looks like his nose was broken 150 times.
Rocky Marciano: Al, thanks, I'll make the best of it.
And then it took the Rock what? 90 seconds?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
It's definitely a reality of boxing, if you plan to take it seriously at all.
I just recently had major problems in mine, as hematomas were building up inside nose everytime I sparred & it's only when I went to the hospital for a check-up that it got operated on before they burst and possibly bled into my brain.
My nose has been a bit flattened and can get slightly off to one side unless I pop it back straight. The most frustrating thing is now my nose is going any semi-decent shot I take. Lyle makes a point about using defensive skills, but the fact is if you're sparring or fighting anyone decent (& in the amateurs you're almost always matched with someone of a similar level of ability) than you are going to get hit & with your nose bang in the middle of your face it's like the centre of the dartboard to your opponent.
Thanks, CFH, this could very well be Ray Barnes, I was in my early 20's at the time, and Ray was about 20 years older than me, BoxRec lists his date of birth as 1929, and Detroit, Michigan as his hometown, this fits pretty good, he'd be 82 now. (i'm 62)Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHIn 1950 a Ray Barnes dropped a 10-round decision to Robinson, one week (:o) after Robinson TKO'd Cliff Beckett .Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axHis first name was Ray, but I don't even recall his last name now. If I did, even though his name wasn't all that recognizable in the boxing world, we could still look it up in BoxRec.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHWho was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
This was back in the early 70's in Tampa, Florida were I lived for a few years after getting out of the military. (U.S. Air Force) Ray and I both drove trucks for the same company, and sometimes after work we'd visit the local watering holes in Tampa and look for some women to pickup. hehehe.
What made me think about him, was the nose, if you put a finger on it, it went almost completely flat.
Ray Barnes - Boxer
We both had a Union contract with the Teamsters (IBT) in the early 70's, and if I remember right, Ray came from Michigan to Tampa, Fla to get the job driving a truck. I was a boxing fan back then, but not an addict like I am now, so I didn't really ask him a lot of questions about his boxing career. I know we were both amazed in 1974, when Ali stopped George Foreman in "The Rumble in the Jungle", we thought Foreman was going to knock Ali out.
anyway cheers
That's really cool that you knew him. Seems like he was a decent pro too, it definitely takes skills to last 10 rounds with SRR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axThanks, CFH, this could very well be Ray Barnes, I was in my early 20's at the time, and Ray was about 20 years older than me, BoxRec lists his date of birth as 1929, and Detroit, Michigan as his hometown, this fits pretty good, he'd be 82 now. (i'm 62)Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHIn 1950 a Ray Barnes dropped a 10-round decision to Robinson, one week (:o) after Robinson TKO'd Cliff Beckett .Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axHis first name was Ray, but I don't even recall his last name now. If I did, even though his name wasn't all that recognizable in the boxing world, we could still look it up in BoxRec.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHWho was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
This was back in the early 70's in Tampa, Florida were I lived for a few years after getting out of the military. (U.S. Air Force) Ray and I both drove trucks for the same company, and sometimes after work we'd visit the local watering holes in Tampa and look for some women to pickup. hehehe.
What made me think about him, was the nose, if you put a finger on it, it went almost completely flat.
Ray Barnes - Boxer
We both had a Union contract with the Teamsters (IBT) in the early 70's, and if I remember right, Ray came from Michigan to Tampa, Fla to get the job driving a truck. I was a boxing fan back then, but not an addict like I am now, so I didn't really ask him a lot of questions about his boxing career. I know we were both amazed in 1974, when Ali stopped George Foreman in "The Rumble in the Jungle", we thought Foreman was going to knock Ali out.
anyway cheers
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Originally Posted by Master
Breaking your nose wouldnt have mattered a bit , you are an ugly bastard anyway ;D
It was because I got a great face that I stopped boxing. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Breaking your nose wouldnt have mattered a bit , you are an ugly bastard anyway ;D
If makes you look like this. :puke:
http://i51.tinypic.com/15q8zf4.jpg