Its over for him he's done....by far the KO of the year
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Its over for him he's done....by far the KO of the year
it was pretty brutal.
Nobody likes to see a shot former great get badly hurt when he has no business fighting anymore, so there will be no glory at all for Lebedev's KO. It won't even get mentioned at year's end because the knockout really is just associated with sadness.
Same if/when Holyfield finally gets put to sleep.
It won't be knockout of the year because the fight had no significance. Roy had lost his previous two fights, one by first round kayo.
nah , it wasgood but Donaire vs Montiel was better
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Originally Posted by gest12645
definitely better.
Andy Lee's KO of McEwan on BAD was also a good KO.
A guy that punches like a sissy knocking out the 2nd most overrated fighter in history at the end of his career is notworthy?
Boxing is officially pro wrestling.
Roy Jones isn't overrated. If anything he has become underrated after tarnishing his legacy for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
In my opinion he is easily the most athletic and talented boxer of all time.
No comparision really.
Roy jones is def not over rated. That is just crazy talk. It really is not hard to see if you are not biased.
It was a horrid KO and hopefully the last time we see Jones lace them up. Holyfield you can kind of give a pass to as he is fighting nobodies and getting through the rounds relatively unscathed, but Jones is a serious ambulance case now. The man simply doesn't respond well to getting hit in the head. Sure, you can look at Toney and say the same thing considering his health issues, but he isn't getting knocked out cold once a year.
42 with nowhere to go, just end it.
only seen it once, do NOT want to see it anymore
for any fight fan belonging to the `00s generation, this is an extremely sad and depressing thing to view:(:(:(
1910s: Sam Langford --Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
1920s: Benny Leonard --
1930s: Henry Armstrong --
1940s: Ray Robinson –
1950s: Ray Robinson –
1960s: Muhammad Ali –
1970s: Roberto Duran –
1980s: Ray Leonard:
1990s: Roy Jones Jr. –
2000s: Manny Pacquiao –
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You know what all those fighters have in common?.... They won fighter of the decade. Overrated fighters don't dominate for 10 years.
You know I havn't actually seen it yet but have heard plenty about it... Man I was devastated seeing him get ko'ed live by Danny Green, I don't even know if I want to see this one, man I love Roy.
Neway curiousity will kill me, can somebody please post footage of it?
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Originally Posted by mickeyholmes
There's really nothing special about Lebedev's KO, Jones Jr. is basically a journeyman/has-been who's already been knocked out several times, big fucking deal, what's new?
BTW, I don't feel sorry for Jones, he's doing this just for money and ignoring the risks to his health, fuck him.
Ditto what others have said. Only KO that wins KO of the year is one that people want to see replayed, and this was an ugly knockout, if ever that phrase can be used without a heavy sense of irony. I mean the last hit that sent Roy down...was there really any need? Those are the types of hits, when an opponent is completely incapable of defending himself anymore, that end lives. Kind of reminded me of Barrera smacking Marquez on the temple when he was already on the canvas, though this one, with the angle and the leverage he was able to gain for the hook, the way Roy's head twisted...nothing short of malicious. Someone needs to stop Roy Jones from boxing, he's a danger to himself, and it's sad to see a true great getting knocked out fight after fight.
If it wasn't Jones jr it's just another clubbing accumliative punch out on an overmatched and undertrained fighter. Weekly event.
AHH geez please put the mitts away roy please >
roy jones was a my favourite boxer for years and i'm still amazed when i watch his clips especially montages like this one...
in recent years i've had to face the facts and admit to myself that he did not fight the best fighters available and the ones he did fight were often total mismatches. he bravely defended his titles against a part time cop, a bartender and cab driver and looked spectacular doing so. as shown in the clip...
you cannot deny his incredible skills and almost super human agility and speed...but against whom did he choose to display and test his abilities? if you look at the records of the fighters that roy chose to fight on boxrec, at first glace things look pretty solid...but take a look at the fighters that those fighters built their respectable looking records on and you'll see the problem. there's alot of red... alot of red!
he did alot of amazing things inside the ring. things we'll never see anyone do again. he amassed belt like no one else and set the middle to heavy record...but lets be reasonable and look at the whole not just the flash.
Those men don't get to be mandatory challengers for a title unless the sanctioning bodies rank them which means that they were impressive enough to earn title shots. Also alot of the men roy jones defeated were already title holders or won belts after roy beat them. Which is much more impressive than beating men that never fought again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
you may support fighters building and maintaining their records by fighting bums who fought bigger bums to advance their careers; but that doesn't really impress me. it may impress you tho. personal taste i guess... roy could have chosen to fight other fighters if he had really wanted to push himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherThose men don't get to be mandatory challengers for a title unless the sanctioning bodies rank them which means that they were impressive enough to earn title shots. Also alot of the men roy jones defeated were already title holders or won belts after roy beat them. Which is much more impressive than beating men that never fought again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
also i think its pretty clear that the sanctioning bodies have taken sacrificed quality for quantity for the sake of making money.
Who other than the the european fighters (benn, collins, eubank, JC, DM) could jones have faced that he wouldn't have received criticism for during his reign?Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoyou may support fighters building and maintaining their records by fighting bums who fought bigger bums to advance their careers; but that doesn't really impress me. it may impress you tho. personal taste i guess... roy could have chosen to fight other fighters if he had really wanted to push himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherThose men don't get to be mandatory challengers for a title unless the sanctioning bodies rank them which means that they were impressive enough to earn title shots. Also alot of the men roy jones defeated were already title holders or won belts after roy beat them. Which is much more impressive than beating men that never fought again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
also i think its pretty clear that the sanctioning bodies have taken sacrificed quality for quantity for the sake of making money.
its just sad to watch it! its like there is a huge turn off switch on the side of rjj's head.
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
thats a pretty good list you've got there. i see you've come around to my side of the argument. haha.
take nothing away from roy... he was a phenomenon. but lets be realistic about the level of competition that he looked so great against. your list is a good example of people he could have chosen to fight if he had wanted to push himself harder.
I think those fighters are only used as an excuse to diminish RJJ, because no one would've honestly picked any of them to stand a chance against Roy. In fact if he fought them there would just be a bunch of excuses. I mean who on their records is so good that it made them such viable opponents since you basically shitted on Roy's resume.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
thats a pretty good list you've got there. i see you've come around to my side of the argument. haha.
take nothing away from roy... he was a phenomenon. but lets be realistic about the level of competition that he looked so great against. your list is a good example of people he could have chosen to fight if he had wanted to push himself harder.
Who did collins/Benn?/eubank?/JC? face that suggests Rjj beating either of them would solidify a higher legacy especially considering that some of the common opponents who were "good" Roy obliterated them?
if only roy had chosen to face some of those oppenents you listed instead of the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker....Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherI think those fighters are only used as an excuse to diminish RJJ, because no one would've honestly picked any of them to stand a chance against Roy. In fact if he fought them there would just be a bunch of excuses. I mean who on their records is so good that it made them such viable opponents since you basically shitted on Roy's resume.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
thats a pretty good list you've got there. i see you've come around to my side of the argument. haha.
take nothing away from roy... he was a phenomenon. but lets be realistic about the level of competition that he looked so great against. your list is a good example of people he could have chosen to fight if he had wanted to push himself harder.
Who did collins/Benn?/eubank?/JC? face that suggests Rjj beating either of them would solidify a higher legacy especially considering that some of the common opponents who were "good" Roy obliterated them?
The year? it's not even June? ???
Since you can't answer the question, I'll take that as you simply can't, and are just yapping away because RJJ just simply didn't appeal to you for whatever reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoif only roy had chosen to face some of those oppenents you listed instead of the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker....Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherI think those fighters are only used as an excuse to diminish RJJ, because no one would've honestly picked any of them to stand a chance against Roy. In fact if he fought them there would just be a bunch of excuses. I mean who on their records is so good that it made them such viable opponents since you basically shitted on Roy's resume.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
thats a pretty good list you've got there. i see you've come around to my side of the argument. haha.
take nothing away from roy... he was a phenomenon. but lets be realistic about the level of competition that he looked so great against. your list is a good example of people he could have chosen to fight if he had wanted to push himself harder.
Who did collins/Benn?/eubank?/JC? face that suggests Rjj beating either of them would solidify a higher legacy especially considering that some of the common opponents who were "good" Roy obliterated them?