This was one of my favorite fights of all time, George Foreman was still calling fights for HBO, and I believe up until the final round and KD he thought Trinidad was going to knock Hopkins out.
Highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygfqXj9pvGA
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This was one of my favorite fights of all time, George Foreman was still calling fights for HBO, and I believe up until the final round and KD he thought Trinidad was going to knock Hopkins out.
Highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygfqXj9pvGA
great video. grate fight
Couldn't believe what I was watching.
This fight was one of my best “upset picks” if you will. I was a fan of both fighters but no way I was drinking the kool-aid that Tito was a 3-1 or 4-1 fav in this fight. Everybody was so gaga over him destroying Joppy in the last fight and Hopkins having a tougher time with Holmes. All I was thinking was “of course he destroyed Joppy, because Joppy stood RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM” (What a great KO thou…). Hopkins started his career at Light Heavy, no way Tito was going to walk thru him.
My favorite part of this fight was Hopkins using the $200k he got from Golden Palace for putting that painted tattoo on his body and betting it all on himself to win LOL. Classic “Nard!!! ;D
... and the fact that bernard almost got himself killed at the press conference in puerto rico!
I didn't recall Tito being such a big favorite, I wish i'd bet some money on Hopkins. I remember Trinidad looking like a bobble head doll at times during the fight, especially when Hop would triple up on his jab and follow up with a straight right. Hopkins basically put on a clinic for 12 rounds and then topped it off with the KO, I was loving it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jdonaher1
Fer sure, at the time I thought Hopkins was being classless, seems like he tore up a PR flag or some such shit. But in retro, this was just classic Hop, he succeeded in getting inside Tito's head, and then fought a masterpiece in the ring. I was a Hop fan before that, but the Tito fight showed me that Hopkins was a champion for a reason = he was damn good.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui
But you did think Hopkins would win the fight, right?
LOL, NOPE! I didn't think Tito had the limited feet BHOP showed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axQuote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui
But you did think Hopkins would win the fight, right?
That's why he's BHOP and I'm, well, an internet jockey!
It's hard to remember who I picked to win that fight, i'm pretty sure though that I went with Hopkins, I know I wanted him to win, I was getting sick of Tito mania, and/or the way his fans were worshiping him at the time. Hopkins knows how to be a party pooper doesn't he... hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiLOL, NOPE! I didn't think Tito had the limited feet BHOP showed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axQuote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui
But you did think Hopkins would win the fight, right?
That's why he's BHOP and I'm, well, an internet jockey!
I REALLY thought Tito had a chance to be another Duran and then BHOP showed me I was a moron!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axIt's hard to remember who I picked to win that fight, i'm pretty sure though that I went with Hopkins, I know I wanted him to win, I was getting sick of Tito mania, and/or the way his fans were worshiping him at the time. Hopkins knows how to be a party pooper doesn't he... hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiLOL, NOPE! I didn't think Tito had the limited feet BHOP showed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axQuote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui
But you did think Hopkins would win the fight, right?
That's why he's BHOP and I'm, well, an internet jockey!
Oh well, don't feel too bad, I thought Larry Holmes would outbox Tyson, and I thought Tommy Hearns might kick Hagler's ass, so don't feel too moronic, shit happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiI REALLY thought Tito had a chance to be another Duran and then BHOP showed me I was a moron!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axIt's hard to remember who I picked to win that fight, i'm pretty sure though that I went with Hopkins, I know I wanted him to win, I was getting sick of Tito mania, and/or the way his fans were worshiping him at the time. Hopkins knows how to be a party pooper doesn't he... hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiLOL, NOPE! I didn't think Tito had the limited feet BHOP showed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axQuote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui
But you did think Hopkins would win the fight, right?
That's why he's BHOP and I'm, well, an internet jockey!
I was shocked how little play Hopkins was given going into this one. Alot of people acted like Tito just had to show up off Joppy demolition and tap Hopkins on the chin a few times. Not this dude.
Love this breakdown and execution of a gameplan. One ya rewind over and over.
I remember the handwrapping incident with Tito's wraps. That Nazim knows how to look out for his fighters
Anyone notice how much higher Hopkins guard was back then. Its alot more relaxed these days. I think he had real respect for Titos power and thats why he was so focused. on hitting and not being hit.
Masterful display especially when you consider Tito demolished Joppy to win the middleweight title prior to that fight
Great performance Hopkins has not slipped technically just probably out put of punches, still got that great right cross.
Love watching Hopkins. A proper master.
Is that a dig at me :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
I'm positive that he was. I even just pulled out the Ring Magazine from the fight. Tito was a 3-1 favorite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axI didn't recall Tito being such a big favorite, I wish i'd bet some money on Hopkins. I remember Trinidad looking like a bobble head doll at times during the fight, especially when Hop would triple up on his jab and follow up with a straight right. Hopkins basically put on a clinic for 12 rounds and then topped it off with the KO, I was loving it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jdonaher1
Love the 2:00 -3 ish mark with him using complete corners, high guard and punching in between Titos flurry. Eveything works there....side to side, inside work and shots off ropes. Just painting a freaking canvas!
Trinidad went 11 rounds with one of the best middleweights of all time (who as someone mentioned started out as a light HW). He lost his undefeated record to an ATG. He finished his career with 3 losses, all to future Hall of Famers. Before that, he amassed a fantastic record with wins over some hugely accomplished fighters. No shame in any of that.
(At least he didn't seek out undersized fighters to add to his fukking legacy).
;)
What happened with the wraps?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinchekked
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I'm sure you are correct, like I said, I just wish i'd bet some money on it.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by jdonaher1I'm positive that he was. I even just pulled out the Ring Magazine from the fight. Tito was a 3-1 favorite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axI didn't recall Tito being such a big favorite, I wish i'd bet some money on Hopkins. I remember Trinidad looking like a bobble head doll at times during the fight, especially when Hop would triple up on his jab and follow up with a straight right. Hopkins basically put on a clinic for 12 rounds and then topped it off with the KO, I was loving it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jdonaher1
Trinidad fought a hell of a fight, he did the best he could do, and has absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. I've never seen Hopkins look as good as he did that night, and if he hadn't brought his A + game, I feel sure Trinidad would have beat him.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I also give Tito credit for challenging himself and fighting the best. (unlike some of these gutless cherry pickers these days calling themselves all-time greats)
Tito was good fighter but he always had the size advantage over most of his foes. And if you are talking about Oscar Tito fan then only talking down Tito because he got a gift decsion against the man. If your taking about Mayweather then well lets be real he box circles around Tito to be honest.
That may be true but Tito hit with venom and if he caught Floyd he would break him down and take him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Thats one that always gets me, the Oscar vs Hopkins event. Oscar wasn't a Middle and didn't belong there. The he faked ko is just silly speak. Its repeated over and over but the only iffy-underweight fights I'd slag Hopkins for are that one, the Brown massacre and maybe the John d Jackson fight. Wright was a fat and dreadful lt hvy too...For Tito the Rodney Moore and Pendleton showcases. The Thiam fight was similar to Hopkins Hakker blah. Love HBOs hypocrisy on that one, I was waiting for Hopkins to slap Larry Merchant ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
It is customary for the opposing trainer to be present at the handwrapping and when Nazim got to Tito's prep area the wraps were already on and when Nazim asked them to do them again Trinidad Sr was extremely defensive claiming that he didn't want to go thru the process again. Nazim eventually had to insist that the hands be rewrapped in his presence because Sr's initial refusal to rewrap the hands made him suspicious. I am not accusing Tito of cheating but this is just an interesting tidbit from that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCapitalistWhat happened with the wraps?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinchekked
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Thank you for coming back to me on this. Always interesting to hear the stories behind the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinchekkedIt is customary for the opposing trainer to be present at the handwrapping and when Nazim got to Tito's prep area the wraps were already on and when Nazim asked them to do them again Trinidad Sr was extremely defensive claiming that he didn't want to go thru the process again. Nazim eventually had to insist that the hands be rewrapped in his presence because Sr's initial refusal to rewrap the hands made him suspicious. I am not accusing Tito of cheating but this is just an interesting tidbit from that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCapitalistWhat happened with the wraps?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinchekked
Thanks
The way he hit Joppy was freakish power, Just sayin. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chinchekkedIt is customary for the opposing trainer to be present at the handwrapping and when Nazim got to Tito's prep area the wraps were already on and when Nazim asked them to do them again Trinidad Sr was extremely defensive claiming that he didn't want to go thru the process again. Nazim eventually had to insist that the hands be rewrapped in his presence because Sr's initial refusal to rewrap the hands made him suspicious. I am not accusing Tito of cheating but this is just an interesting tidbit from that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCapitalistWhat happened with the wraps?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinchekked
Thanks
Don't start anything now!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThe way he hit Joppy was freakish power, Just sayin. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chinchekkedIt is customary for the opposing trainer to be present at the handwrapping and when Nazim got to Tito's prep area the wraps were already on and when Nazim asked them to do them again Trinidad Sr was extremely defensive claiming that he didn't want to go thru the process again. Nazim eventually had to insist that the hands be rewrapped in his presence because Sr's initial refusal to rewrap the hands made him suspicious. I am not accusing Tito of cheating but this is just an interesting tidbit from that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCapitalistWhat happened with the wraps?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinchekked
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Oi oi
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Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Good competitive fight, still Trinidad looks small in that bout.
trinidad was a cheater. i don't see why people have trouble with it. he cheated and lost when he wasn't allowed to cheat.
Has a can of worms been opened?Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Tito did seem toothless against Roy Jones and Winky Wright. Just saying.
I could remember this fight as the first fight of Hopkins I have watched.... and it was because of Trinidad.
After this fight I became a big Hopkins' fan.:cool: