not ripped not gigantic. how come he is so devastating?
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not ripped not gigantic. how come he is so devastating?
Punchers are born. Not made. He obviously was born with it
Must be all that damn weight behind it, although he is looking slimmer.
Arreola is a really big guy, he's athletic, he has "heavy hands" meaning anything he hits you with hurts and he knows how to box. Also, he was born with punching power as VD says.
Thus sayeth the wise man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I have really heavy hands. At 47, its about 30 years too late to go into boxing. But I do have regrets. I dont regret not having my nose broken though. I have a really big Italian nose which probably woulda got broken each and every fight, plus in sparring.
I met a wellknown trainer in Newark, NJ's Red Brick Gym back in 1996, and he took one look at me and said I should fight at about 147. Im only 5 foot 6, and my normal out of shape weight is about 185. I know I woulda been good at 147, with real heavy hands for that weight.
Now Im in South Korea, and the 147 pounders are weak as shit, they couldnt knock out a fuckin fly or even a fly's egg. Im seriously thinkin of going into boxing at age 47 just to knock these weak ass motherfuckers out. Yes Im fighting in a much lower quality market, but hey, maybe Ill be the South Korean welterweight champ soon.
Clottey is as ripped as they come, and the dude can barely punch through a wet paper bagQuote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
Zbik even came out as fit and ripped as possible and the guy had no power in his punches from round 1 against Chavez Jr on Saturday night, like many have already said, punchers are born not made, perfect example, George Foreman has been considered the hardest hitting heavy ever, and it didn't matter if it was the young buff George or the old fat George, either version still had punches that felt like cannon balls
I am 47 as well. Put down whatever alchohol is giving you these delusions ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
In the grand scheme of things Arreleo is not that big and devastating puncher as say David Haye is.
;D:appl:Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiI am 47 as well. Put down whatever alchohol is giving you these delusions ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Friend I think you'd quickly learn that there is a lot more to boxing than power.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Yes, but could Arreola break a watermelon with one punch? That is the true question of boxing skills and potential, after all.
This is the best post i've read since the greatest ever Saddo poster - Trainermonkey - left us.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I'm a 47-year-old little fat man with a big nose that is gonna duff-up a load of puny Koreans. Beyond awesome. Fact.
Definitely go for it. I just posted in the other thread, unaware that you actually do have very heavy hands. Also like you say you're in a market where there probably isn't much comp. Hell, you'll likely end up against our other South Korean based poster Miles & as he's a runaway leader for forum gay of the year, I think that tells you all you need to know about the competition over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Adam, c'mon man, you know boxing. Don't you remember that other guy who had mad power for his weight. He's a pretty decent name in the boxing world now. Hell, I seem to remember there was talk of him being Floyd's comeback opponent. I suspect this guy must have real power to have this level of confidence, so I think the least we at Saddo's can do is get behind him.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
He's heavy handed but not a one punch knockout artist or anything.
But how do we know until he's taken on the cream of 147lb South Koreans?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Great question.. Im not sure about that one but the 80's Korean Legend, former IBF/WBA SMW champion, Park Chong Pal, would have gave Arreola a beating of his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinBut how do we know until he's taken on the cream of 147lb South Koreans?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Ah crossed wires. I was talking about brocktonblockbust. He's got real heavy hands. He said so.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaGreat question.. Im not sure about that one but the 80's Korean Legend, former IBF/WBA SMW champion, Park Chong Pal, would have gave Arreola a beating of his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinBut how do we know until he's taken on the cream of 147lb South Koreans?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Arreola's best weapon is his burrito breath, when inhaled it causes his opponents to pass out.
lol Which part of Korea are you in? You got to be kidding me though, Boxing isn't taken seriously in Korea anymore, that's why. The days of great Korean fighters has ended in the early 90s.. Korean kids nowadays are too well fed in every way that there's no longer that " Hungry Mentality " ... Those are the days of old and nobody wants to box anymore in Korea. I know some guys in the Korean Mob who would put guys to sleep if they decided to get serious about Boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Koreans are some crazy, tough SOBs, that I know for a FACT and if you think it's easy to be a WW champ in Korea, you try.. Good luck bruh..
Im in LA but Ill be going to Korea in the summer.. Let me know if you want to spar..
hmm. Maybe he does but Koreans are known for their granite chins and ultra toughness. In Jin Chi had a chin that put Margarito to shame so ya know........Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinAh crossed wires. I was talking about brocktonblockbust. He's got real heavy hands. He said so.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaGreat question.. Im not sure about that one but the 80's Korean Legend, former IBF/WBA SMW champion, Park Chong Pal, would have gave Arreola a beating of his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinBut how do we know until he's taken on the cream of 147lb South Koreans?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
I can gather up some heads in Korea right now who could give brocktonblockbut some good sparring. Can you give him that message for me. ;D
His natural raw power is pretty nice, but sometimes he looks like a gloved boxing bear delivering it.
I've talked with my Dad about his time in Vietnam and the the tenacity and hardassed-ness of the Koreans just left him wide-eyed in astonishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitalol Which part of Korea are you in? You got to be kidding me though, Boxing isn't taken seriously in Korea anymore, that's why. The days of great Korean fighters has ended in the early 90s.. Korean kids nowadays are too well fed in every way that there's no longer that " Hungry Mentality " ... Those are the days of old and nobody wants to box anymore in Korea. I know some guys in the Korean Mob who would put guys to sleep if they decided to get serious about Boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Koreans are some crazy, tough SOBs, that I know for a FACT and if you think it's easy to be a WW champ in Korea, you try.. Good luck bruh..
Im in LA but Ill be going to Korea in the summer.. Let me know if you want to spar..
I am a little bit envious of blocktonblockbust's post actually, it's pretty good. I am in hysterics that this overweight, middle aged man is suddenly going to go into training and KO young, Korean WW's. A classic post if ever there was one.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinDefinitely go for it. I just posted in the other thread, unaware that you actually do have very heavy hands. Also like you say you're in a market where there probably isn't much comp. Hell, you'll likely end up against our other South Korean based poster Miles & as he's a runaway leader for forum gay of the year, I think that tells you all you need to know about the competition over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Adam, c'mon man, you know boxing. Don't you remember that other guy who had mad power for his weight. He's a pretty decent name in the boxing world now. Hell, I seem to remember there was talk of him being Floyd's comeback opponent. I suspect this guy must have real power to have this level of confidence, so I think the least we at Saddo's can do is get behind him.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
It must have been the soju talking. ;D
And I wouldn't fight Blocktonblockbust, but I am more than happy to take on the trainer role. It would be like TM and Kid Thunder. A real dream team. :cool:
Glad to see someone else remembers The Power Puncher I made a thread like a year ago and have made several references. Nobodys picked up on it. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by X
He was awesome! :D
I gotta co-sign this comment...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Truth be told I don't consider him a devastating puncher.
He's got power but I wouldn't describe it as devastating.
thx dudes 4 all your support, and thx to the dudes who told me to put down the drink.. Im actually not drinking anything. I just really wanna give it a try. A sober try. And yes, I have real power, I've been working out now since age 15, I weight 174 pounds and I can bench press 320 pounds one time. It is my max at bench press. I am the Rocky Marciano of the 147 pounders. Thanks for giving me a puncher's chance, and to those who dont think I have even a puncher's chance, I hope I can link up my 1st fight here on Saddo's so you can watch me KTF out a Korean at 147. I also hope he has 20 years on me, so you will see a 47 yr old KTF out a 27 yr old.
All in good jest, good fellow. I have been known to post the odd quirky statement or two under the influence. Good to know that it wasn't the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Have you done any actual sparring yet? And where do you watch these Korean WW's fight?
Do you know why Italians talk with their hands?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
They can't stand each others breath ;D
Sorry Blockton you were saying you have heavy hands and you are Italian.. :cool: Good luck mate.
Personally I have such heavy hands, I couldn't be stuffed holding them up for more than about 40 seconds.
I myself have the dainty hands of a pianist and poet, if I were to punch anyone full on in the face, I would likely go all Calzaghe everafter. They are not heavy at all, but move around with much grace and beauty. My hands are perhaps my finest feature asides from my immense brain and rather wonderful left kidney.
Granted, with such heavy hands, one would need a good amount of endurance to support longer battles with that power.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Just out of curiosity, do you also have a good sturdy chin?
This is probably the most hilarious thread i've seen in my short stay at Saddo's, thanks for the entertainment. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Granted, with such heavy hands, one would need a good amount of endurance to support longer battles with that power.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Just out of curiosity, do you also have a good sturdy chin?
He'll be fine. They'll have too much difficulty negotiating past that big Italian nose, and while they're doing that Brockton will bust their block. Possibly literally. Because you know those Koreans are weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Granted, with such heavy hands, one would need a good amount of endurance to support longer battles with that power.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Just out of curiosity, do you also have a good sturdy chin?
As a Korean-Italiano, I find your ignorant comment to be pretty offensive and laughable at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinHe'll be fine. They'll have too much difficulty negotiating past that big Italian nose, and while they're doing that Brockton will bust their block. Possibly literally. Because you know those Koreans are weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Granted, with such heavy hands, one would need a good amount of endurance to support longer battles with that power.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Just out of curiosity, do you also have a good sturdy chin?
I dont know if you understand the streets or the fight game, but, Koreans are far from weak.
:-X:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaAs a Korean-Italiano, I find your ignorant comment to be pretty offensive and laughable at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinHe'll be fine. They'll have too much difficulty negotiating past that big Italian nose, and while they're doing that Brockton will bust their block. Possibly literally. Because you know those Koreans are weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Granted, with such heavy hands, one would need a good amount of endurance to support longer battles with that power.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Just out of curiosity, do you also have a good sturdy chin?
I dont know if you understand the streets or the fight game, but, Koreans are far from weak.
See your PMs
Arreola is the biggest mexican I've ever seen
He was clearly taking the piss, but if we are talking your typical Korean that I see in the streets day in day out you are talking about some of the most passive and reluctant to fight people in the world. And I don't mean that in a negative way, on the whole it is such a safe and chilled out place to live. There is certainly nothing in Korea to compare with the dodgy parts of the UK. The only dodgy so called 'tough' Koreans I have ever met are those who have spent their lives overseas and typically come from places like LA.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaAs a Korean-Italiano, I find your ignorant comment to be pretty offensive and laughable at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinHe'll be fine. They'll have too much difficulty negotiating past that big Italian nose, and while they're doing that Brockton will bust their block. Possibly literally. Because you know those Koreans are weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Granted, with such heavy hands, one would need a good amount of endurance to support longer battles with that power.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Just out of curiosity, do you also have a good sturdy chin?
I dont know if you understand the streets or the fight game, but, Koreans are far from weak.
As I say don't get me the wrong way, Korea is my home and I shall likely stay here for the rest of my life, but the fact that Korean society is relatively chilled out and you aren't seeing gangs of 'tough' kids and gang members roaming about proving their toughness to anyone is one of its virtues. That is not to say that Korean's are weak either, their history says that they have the ability to endure hardship. The 'bloodmoney' system where you pay thousands of dollars for assaulting someone also helps to keep fists at bay. I prefer this kind of life myself.
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Originally Posted by milesHe was clearly taking the piss, but if we are talking your typical Korean that I see in the streets day in day out you are talking about some of the most passive and reluctant to fight people in the world. And I don't mean that in a negative way, on the whole it is such a safe and chilled out place to live. There is certainly nothing in Korea to compare with the dodgy parts of the UK. The only dodgy so called 'tough' Koreans I have ever met are those who have spent their lives overseas and typically come from places like LA.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaAs a Korean-Italiano, I find your ignorant comment to be pretty offensive and laughable at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinHe'll be fine. They'll have too much difficulty negotiating past that big Italian nose, and while they're doing that Brockton will bust their block. Possibly literally. Because you know those Koreans are weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Granted, with such heavy hands, one would need a good amount of endurance to support longer battles with that power.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Just out of curiosity, do you also have a good sturdy chin?
I dont know if you understand the streets or the fight game, but, Koreans are far from weak.
As I say don't get me the wrong way, Korea is my home and I shall likely stay here for the rest of my life, but the fact that Korean society is relatively chilled out and you aren't seeing gangs of 'tough' kids and gang members roaming about proving their toughness to anyone is one of its virtues. That is not to say that Korean's are weak either, their history says that they have the ability to endure hardship. The 'bloodmoney' system where you pay thousands of dollars for assaulting someone also helps to keep fists at bay. I prefer this kind of life myself.
Oh yea, it's all gravy.. It was just a misunderstanding on my part and there are no hard feelings..
As a KoreanItalian who's lived in Korea/LA for years and even went to school on both sides, I couldn't disagree more about your preception of Koreans.. Koreans in general all have the scrapper's mentality because fistfights has always been a part of our culture. Because there are no guns in Korea, kids learn how to rely on their fists, so naturally, there are alot of great street fighters out there.. I went to middle school and high school in Korea so I know exactly how it is in our circle.. For example, in America, the guys who get lot of girls etc in high school tend to be the popular ones but in Korea it's really different. They put so much stock into who's the best fighter of each area that high schools go to war with each other all the time to determine who's the best. These guys grow up fighting for fun so they are natural very good at it when it comes to throwing down. I understand my people inside and out and I can honestly say that Koreans in general are some tough ass dudes. They're very stubborn and too prideful to back down from a fight. If anything, Koreans are confrontational people with a short fuse so they're usually the ones starting trouble... Koreans love to fight. Youll never see a streetgang in Korea though because mobs dont allow it. Everything is mob organized over there, no small time streetgangs.. The best fighters from high school get scouted by the mob by the time they graduate.. just a thought...
Where in Korea do you reside?
Having taught at a Korean middle school for 4 years in the past, I have never seen or heard of such school to school fighting. I have known many other teachers doing the same job, both Korean and foreign, and have likewise never heard of that. Bullying for sure, but school against school warfare with hordes of kids beating each other silly? Never. I'm not sure that is the way to impress the girls either. :p Not that I am doubting your experiences, but I have certainly never seen it or seen it brought up in the media as a serious social problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaQuote:
Originally Posted by milesHe was clearly taking the piss, but if we are talking your typical Korean that I see in the streets day in day out you are talking about some of the most passive and reluctant to fight people in the world. And I don't mean that in a negative way, on the whole it is such a safe and chilled out place to live. There is certainly nothing in Korea to compare with the dodgy parts of the UK. The only dodgy so called 'tough' Koreans I have ever met are those who have spent their lives overseas and typically come from places like LA.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaAs a Korean-Italiano, I find your ignorant comment to be pretty offensive and laughable at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinHe'll be fine. They'll have too much difficulty negotiating past that big Italian nose, and while they're doing that Brockton will bust their block. Possibly literally. Because you know those Koreans are weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Granted, with such heavy hands, one would need a good amount of endurance to support longer battles with that power.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Just out of curiosity, do you also have a good sturdy chin?
I dont know if you understand the streets or the fight game, but, Koreans are far from weak.
As I say don't get me the wrong way, Korea is my home and I shall likely stay here for the rest of my life, but the fact that Korean society is relatively chilled out and you aren't seeing gangs of 'tough' kids and gang members roaming about proving their toughness to anyone is one of its virtues. That is not to say that Korean's are weak either, their history says that they have the ability to endure hardship. The 'bloodmoney' system where you pay thousands of dollars for assaulting someone also helps to keep fists at bay. I prefer this kind of life myself.
Oh yea, it's all gravy.. It was just a misunderstanding on my part and there are no hard feelings..
As a KoreanItalian who's lived in Korea/LA for years and even went to school on both sides, I couldn't disagree more about your preception of Koreans.. Koreans in general all have the scrapper's mentality because fistfights has always been a part of our culture. Because there are no guns in Korea, kids learn how to rely on their fists, so naturally, there are alot of great street fighters out there.. I went to middle school and high school in Korea so I know exactly how it is in our circle.. For example, in America, the guys who get lot of girls etc in high school tend to be the popular ones but in Korea it's really different. They put so much stock into who's the best fighter of each area that high schools go to war with each other all the time to determine who's the best. These guys grow up fighting for fun so they are natural very good at it when it comes to throwing down. I understand my people inside and out and I can honestly say that Koreans in general are some tough ass dudes. They're very stubborn and too prideful to back down from a fight.
Where in Korea do you reside?
Most of these kids are going to school all day, then after that they are going to private academies to learn yet more English, math and science. And that's just the middle schoolers, the rest of their time they are in the PC room playing 'sudden attack' or whatever game is currently in vogue. Many highschools don't actually close until 10-11pm and the kids are just plain exhausted. They are not roaming in gangs or engaging in fist fights, sure some get into trouble but it is the exception rather than the norm and certainly not a patch on dodgy parts of Manchester.
My own perception of Koreans is that they can be very passive-aggressive, but not always. They can be very quick to start raising a voice, but when push comes to shove they don't throw a punch. To do so means criminal charges and money that they can't afford, nobody wants to go inside as you won't get a job. You say you know your people inside out, but you don't sound like you do. You probably know yourself and others like you in your circle. Most Koreans simply do not grow up fighting each other. They study too many hours and relax by playing their games. I have known thousands of young koreans over the years and very few fit the description you are giving me. As I say, that is not to say that I am invalidating your experiences, but you seem to have a need to pump the Koreans up into being warriors when most of them are just easy going folk trying to get an education and get that job at Samsung. By middle school a lot of the fight is kicked out of them by the immense and monolithic educational system. It is a nightmare for most, but it does control the young folk and makes society safe.
I don't give out specific details on internet public forums, but I am in the Chungnam province.