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After seeing some of the videos to the build up of his fight against David Haye he has come across as a really nice and funny guy, very entertaining! Now I'm a David Haye fan but I'm almost turning against Haye due to some of his antics and how he is acting towards Wladimir now the fight closes in. Is it just me or are any of you guys falling to his charm? :rolleyes:
No I am impressed with him also. I want Haye to win but Wlad certainly has won the promotional battle, "shake the hand" and "I love Borat" blew away Haye.
"Shake my magic had" was hilarious!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Even Wlad's opponent has to fight back a smile and some laughter (see below)
I have to say their is nothing I find more boring in boxing than a guy that tries to win over fans by being nice.
I like the bad guys of the sport, always have. They're funny before the fight, their funny if they win and their even funnier if they lose after weeks of big talk.
I really like the guy, but I gotta hope that Haye Sparks him from a patriotic point of view.
That's how I see it too. This is the hurt business, not golf or a game of ping pong. Fighter who go out of their way to be nice like Mosley/pac/wlad bore me to death. IT's even worse when you try to touch gloves every minute to make secret agreements. Bad guys will always sell more.. These guys have more personality, love it or hate it, and people watch them because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
I guess Wlad has charmed some people with his latest stuff but I dont find him funny nor witty at all. Looks like he tries too hard and comes with full of cliches.. Haye puts him in his place verbally everytime imo... Wlad never had an edge over him in a war or words..
I'm sorry but Haye appeared a little shook in one of the funny videos with Wlad. Wlad hasn't shown an ounce of fear yet. I hope both sides give credit where it's due regardless of who wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaThat's how I see it too. This is the hurt business, not golf or a game of ping pong. Fighter who go out of their way to be nice like Mosley/pac/wlad bore me to death. IT's even worse when you try to touch gloves every minute to make secret agreements. Bad guys will always sell more.. These guys have more personality, love it or hate it, and people watch them because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
I guess Wlad has charmed some people with his latest stuff but I dont find him funny nor witty at all. Looks like he tries too hard and comes with full of cliches.. Haye puts him in his place verbally everytime imo... Wlad never had an edge over him in a war or words..
if you think Haye put Wlad in his place verbally during the run up to this fight then you haven't watched the videos OR you need to tell your significant other about your crush on Haye.
Wlad's verbal intimidation/schooling of Haye is all the more amazing since English is his second or 3rd language, Wlad has Haye so fucking flustered, he's afraid to be in the same room.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddew
Wlad's a class act, always has been. The WBA title holder just wants attention....he's going to get it alright ;D
The problem with the heavyweight division is NOT the Klitchkos. It is everyone else.
Good point, and a lot of it has to do with the Klitschko's being as good as they are, in fairness to "everyone else", the K-Bros usually have a huge size advantage over their opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui
Size isn't the issue, the issue is that The Klitschko's take the sport seriously, they train hard, they live clean, and ODDLY nobody seems to be able to challenge them.
Except for Vitali who was busted for steroids.:-XQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
As an AMATEUR....clean ever since and Wlad has never tested positive. Also when I said "they live clean" I meant they don't live like pigs between fights, they stay in shape which seems to help does it not?
Size plays a big part, but if they weren't damn good at their craft, it wouldn't make a difference. If you've ever been in a fight with someone much bigger, you know what i'm talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Yep hes going to get attention, medical attention ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Ever heard of the term 'Charm Offensive'... :rolleyes:
Come on guys, what are we saying here? That because Wlad can actually speak English and has a personality that it somehow makes up for his passive, robotic, paint by numbers fighting style?
For what it's worth, I see this Charm Offensive as nothing but a front. Infact his whole demeanour is just a cover up, his 'charm' completely vanished when our sky interviewers grilled about being sparked by fast punchers... What will happen he actually gets hit by one.... What has happened in the past? The charm vanished. He comes across as this guy who is composed, collected and has all the answers... Both in and out of the ring BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMETHING COMES HIS WAY THAT HE AIN'T READY FOR?
His calm demeanour VANISHES... Both in and out of the ring ;D
Like someone said before, he might not have a glass chin, but he DEFINITELY has a glass mind :D
Yeah i have to agree it would be huge over here if he wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
The boxing message board account holder goes through so much effort when he talks about Haye... It's fucking hilarious, is it honestly worth typing words and words instead of just pressing FOUR bloody keys?! H-A-Y-EQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I wouldn't care, but you completely waste your time doing it as I'm still not even sure what point you are trying to make, other than that you find haye worthy of extra time and effort when typing.
You talk about Haye so much that I wonder how many collective minutes, maybe hours of your life you've wasted on it.
Sugar Shane didn't either. ;D ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Nothing to do with 99% of the rest of the division being utter utter garbage then?
Hornfinger if 99% of the division was in top shape they'd be better fighters...The Klitschko's simply take full advantage of living right, training properly, and following a game plan. Its not against the rules for other fighters to try and follow that example.
Of course size is the issue. Do you think any of these guys with a huge size difference would be in the top ranks without it? Hardly. They would probably all have at least 10 losses on their records if they were average size for a heavyweight. When you get into elite range for skills, size makes a big difference.
Nicolay Valuev was huge and he still sucked. Primo Carnera big but not good.
I love how people discount the skill of The Klitschko's simply because of their size.
But that's if their not good. If they are good, have speed power and agility, size means a lot. If they are an oaf with low skills, the size and the power that goes with it, is the only thing that got them that far.
Agreed. If the klitchko brothers were a mere 6 feet 4 inches, they would still be good due to skills but a less dangerous. That goes for lewis as well. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer
On the flip side, we should be proud of how much mike tyson accomplished for his small size.
If me aunty had bollox she'd be my uncle.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I completely agree 100%. But it is what it is. A terrible terrible division plagued with fat over weight undertrained underskilled fighters. Ruling this division is no great feat.
charm is surface deep. when the going gets rough, haye's boorishness comes out.
wlad is embarrassing
haye is a cock
Wlad tried hard to show some personality by making jokes about his magic hand but it wasn't funny at all, really. It was actually cringe worthy especially when he started talking about heaven and hell or whatever which didnt make any kind of sense. Trying a little too hard to sound smart and witty.. Haye didnt want to share the same room with him just because.. he's just annoyed and dont like Wlad or maybe it's another part of his master plan to get inside Wlad's head. Whatever it was, it wasn't out of fear or anything that's for sure. Neither guys are afraid of one another. That much is clear..Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44