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Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
Roger believes Pacman aint got boxing skills, but coudn't explain why they dont want to fight him.
He was quoted saying that Victor is much more talented than pacman because he agrees to Floyd's demand on blood tests.. what was that supposed to mean?
Roger also denies what other people thinks when they speculate that the ortiz fight is tune up in preparation for a mega fight with pacman. He cant seem to elaborate on why he thinks that Floyd vs Pacman after ortix fight is CRAZY..
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
What else would it mean... He's just concerened for his nephew's well being.. Fighting Pacman is no different than fighting some lunatic on PCP.. IT's just not a fair fight.. that's basically what he's saying..
TAKE THE TEST and everything is solved.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
I believe he already agreed to take the test. What else is out there? Roger was quoted saying HIV test on this article. I guess its a good idea...
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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FinitoElDinamita
What else would it mean... He's just concerened for his nephew's well being.. Fighting Pacman is no different than fighting some lunatic on PCP.. IT's just not a fair fight.. that's basically what he's saying..
TAKE THE TEST and everything is solved.
Ortiz is a much bigger man than Pacquiao. Roger should be more concerned with Ortiz.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
Pacman needs to agree to random testing with no cut-off date.. He never did that...
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
What else would it mean... He's just concerened for his nephew's well being.. Fighting Pacman is no different than fighting some lunatic on PCP.. IT's just not a fair fight.. that's basically what he's saying..
TAKE THE TEST and everything is solved.
Ortiz is a much bigger man than Pacquiao. Roger should be more concerned with Ortiz.
Size aint got nothing to do with it..
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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FinitoElDinamita
Pacman needs to agree to random testing with no cut-off date.. He never did that...
Because Floyd turned down every damn offer in the first place... He wouldnt want to sit down and talk about the fight, but keeps on saying that pac should take the tests.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
What else would it mean... He's just concerened for his nephew's well being.. Fighting Pacman is no different than fighting some lunatic on PCP.. IT's just not a fair fight.. that's basically what he's saying..
TAKE THE TEST and everything is solved.
Ortiz is a much bigger man than Pacquiao. Roger should be more concerned with Ortiz.
Size maybe the advantage of ortiz, but we all know Floyd can make it a disadvantage. The question is, if Ortiz can catch Floyd. I dont think he can hit a fighter that sleek too, and Floyd can hit him all day and goes out of harms way in a blink.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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FinitoElDinamita
Pacman needs to agree to random testing with no cut-off date.. He never did that...
i think this will never get old. both guys with excuses. the both have $50 million reason to make this fight happen. random testing or not. both are just playing diva. they dont care about the fans. come on. floyd only came up with random testing when he was asked to fight pac and pac just didnt want to give(typical filipino pride bs) in to floyds demands. and both fighters fan boys battle it here with their own opinion. i think theres no more need to talk about floyd vs pac until they sign the contract. for all you trolls get a life.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
I don't hate Floyd, but uncle Roger is a absolute idiot. He says he doesn't watch boxing, you know damn well that he watches boxing. "I just happened to turn on the TV and there was the Ortiz-Berto fight" he's so full of shit. I can't stand when he says "people don't know shit about boxing" Roger Mayweather is a piece of shit.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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Dench
Roger believes Pacman aint got boxing skills, but coudn't explain why they dont want to fight him.
He was quoted saying that Victor is much more talented than pacman because he agrees to Floyd's demand on blood tests.. what was that supposed to mean?
Roger also denies what other people thinks when they speculate that the ortiz fight is tune up in preparation for a mega fight with pacman. He cant seem to elaborate on why he thinks that Floyd vs Pacman after ortix fight is CRAZY..
Roger probably couldn't spell cat, if you spotted him the c and t.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kZsRQo4Qzo...ayweather1.jpg
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Dench
Roger believes Pacman aint got boxing skills, but coudn't explain why they dont want to fight him.
He was quoted saying that Victor is much more talented than pacman because he agrees to Floyd's demand on blood tests.. what was that supposed to mean?
Roger also denies what other people thinks when they speculate that the ortiz fight is tune up in preparation for a mega fight with pacman. He cant seem to elaborate on why he thinks that Floyd vs Pacman after ortix fight is CRAZY..
Roger probably couldn't spell cat, if you spotted him the c and t.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kZsRQo4Qzo...ayweather1.jpg
see him losing teeth.. thats a sign of meth abuse. the same crap he accuses pacquiao of taking. idiot.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
That's crack talking again.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
What else would it mean... He's just concerened for his nephew's well being.. Fighting Pacman is no different than fighting some lunatic on PCP.. IT's just not a fair fight.. that's basically what he's saying..
TAKE THE TEST and everything is solved.
Ortiz is a much bigger man than Pacquiao. Roger should be more concerned with Ortiz.
Size aint got nothing to do with it..
It's called physics, look it up! and then say size has nothing to do it! Anytime someone gets hit in the head, there is a potential concision the bigger the mass the more potential there is for damage. If you going to worry, then it's appropriate to worry more about the larger opponent.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
What else would it mean... He's just concerened for his nephew's well being.. Fighting Pacman is no different than fighting some lunatic on PCP.. IT's just not a fair fight.. that's basically what he's saying..
TAKE THE TEST and everything is solved.
Ortiz is a much bigger man than Pacquiao. Roger should be more concerned with Ortiz.
Size aint got nothing to do with it..
It's called physics, look it up! and then say size has nothing to do it! Anytime someone gets hit in the head, there is a potential concision the bigger the mass the more potential there is for damage. If you going to worry, then it's appropriate to worry more about the larger opponent.
Physics.. lmfao What about it? You must put alot of stock into size but ortiz brings nothing to the table that Floyd has never seen before. If Ortiz was a natural middleweight or even a JMW, we can talk about size advantage but aint the case here. He's just had his first fight at 147 but Floyd has beaten bigger and better fighters such as Delahoya back in 07 when he still had something. Floyd doesn't have problems neutralizing bigger fighters and you can watch the Chico fight too... Ortiz has one good win on his resume against an untested Berto and all of a sudden he's the man to beat Floyd Mayweather, with the help of his massive size advantage, of course. lolz
Dont get me wrong, Ortiz is a good opponent and I like this fight because he's a skilled,converted southpaw with great punching power, youth and hunger but his size isn't much of a factor when up against someone like Floyd.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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josef4334
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Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Dench
Roger believes Pacman aint got boxing skills, but coudn't explain why they dont want to fight him.
He was quoted saying that Victor is much more talented than pacman because he agrees to Floyd's demand on blood tests.. what was that supposed to mean?
Roger also denies what other people thinks when they speculate that the ortiz fight is tune up in preparation for a mega fight with pacman. He cant seem to elaborate on why he thinks that Floyd vs Pacman after ortix fight is CRAZY..
Roger probably couldn't spell cat, if you spotted him the c and t.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kZsRQo4Qzo...ayweather1.jpg
see him losing teeth.. thats a sign of meth abuse. the same crap he accuses pacquiao of taking. idiot.
Could also be he used to take punches to the mouth for a living.....
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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josef4334
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Dench
Roger believes Pacman aint got boxing skills, but coudn't explain why they dont want to fight him.
He was quoted saying that Victor is much more talented than pacman because he agrees to Floyd's demand on blood tests.. what was that supposed to mean?
Roger also denies what other people thinks when they speculate that the ortiz fight is tune up in preparation for a mega fight with pacman. He cant seem to elaborate on why he thinks that Floyd vs Pacman after ortix fight is CRAZY..
Roger probably couldn't spell cat, if you spotted him the c and t.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kZsRQo4Qzo...ayweather1.jpg
see him losing teeth.. thats a sign of meth abuse. the same crap he accuses pacquiao of taking. idiot.
He should try A-side meth instead so he wouldn't lose his teeth. Aint nothing wrong with Pacman's teeth.
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I think maybe uncle Roger lost his focus mitts and let Floyd use his mouth as a bullseye. But on a more serious note, Floyd will school Ortiz. If vicious thinks Marcos was tough on him wait till Floyd just sticks him in the jaw and moves out of distance all night long. P.S. Roger if you read this talk Money into buyn ya a new grill. Im pretty sure he can afford it.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
may is so rusty and timing off at this point from inactivity and scrotum-licking, that he WOULD get killed if he went in against a focused Pac.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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Dench
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FinitoElDinamita
Pacman needs to agree to random testing with no cut-off date.. He never did that...
Because Floyd turned down every damn offer in the first place... He wouldnt want to sit down and talk about the fight, but keeps on saying that pac should take the tests.
According to Floyd, there's nothing to negotiate if Pac doesn't agree to his demands first. Random testing leading up to the fight with no cut-offs..
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
let floyd think he is the king of the world and he can make his own rules that everyone else must bow to.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
the fight ain't happening
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dench
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Pacman needs to agree to random testing with no cut-off date.. He never did that...
Because Floyd turned down every damn offer in the first place... He wouldnt want to sit down and talk about the fight, but keeps on saying that pac should take the tests.
According to Floyd, there's nothing to negotiate if Pac doesn't agree to his demands first. Random testing leading up to the fight with no cut-offs..
Wow, how do you call that? Blood test before negotiations? Negotiations were happening pal, the HBO top honcho can attest to that, but Floyd chicken out. Many have tried already, but as he always say, All have failed to convince him.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
What else would it mean... He's just concerened for his nephew's well being.. Fighting Pacman is no different than fighting some lunatic on PCP.. IT's just not a fair fight.. that's basically what he's saying..
TAKE THE TEST and everything is solved.
Ortiz is a much bigger man than Pacquiao. Roger should be more concerned with Ortiz.
Size aint got nothing to do with it..
It's called physics, look it up! and then say size has nothing to do it! Anytime someone gets hit in the head, there is a potential concision the bigger the mass the more potential there is for damage. If you going to worry, then it's appropriate to worry more about the larger opponent.
Physics.. lmfao What about it? You must put alot of stock into size but ortiz brings nothing to the table that Floyd has never seen before. If Ortiz was a natural middleweight or even a JMW, we can talk about size advantage but aint the case here. He's just had his first fight at 147 but Floyd has beaten bigger and better fighters such as Delahoya back in 07 when he still had something. Floyd doesn't have problems neutralizing bigger fighters and you can watch the Chico fight too... Ortiz has one good win on his resume against an untested Berto and all of a sudden he's the man to beat Floyd Mayweather, with the help of his massive size advantage, of course. lolz
Dont get me wrong, Ortiz is a good opponent and I like this fight because he's a skilled,converted southpaw with great punching power, youth and hunger but his size isn't much of a factor when up against someone like Floyd.
AGREE. Good fight. I also saw Floyd slowing down in the Hatton fight and after. Ortiz could do it!!!
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
What else would it mean... He's just concerened for his nephew's well being.. Fighting Pacman is no different than fighting some lunatic on PCP.. IT's just not a fair fight.. that's basically what he's saying..
TAKE THE TEST and everything is solved.
Ortiz is a much bigger man than Pacquiao. Roger should be more concerned with Ortiz.
Size aint got nothing to do with it..
It's called physics, look it up! and then say size has nothing to do it! Anytime someone gets hit in the head, there is a potential concision the bigger the mass the more potential there is for damage. If you going to worry, then it's appropriate to worry more about the larger opponent.
Physics.. lmfao What about it? You must put alot of stock into size but ortiz brings nothing to the table that Floyd has never seen before. If Ortiz was a natural middleweight or even a JMW, we can talk about size advantage but aint the case here. He's just had his first fight at 147 but Floyd has beaten bigger and better fighters such as Delahoya back in 07 when he still had something. Floyd doesn't have problems neutralizing bigger fighters and you can watch the Chico fight too... Ortiz has one good win on his resume against an untested Berto and all of a sudden he's the man to beat Floyd Mayweather, with the help of his massive size advantage, of course. lolz
Dont get me wrong, Ortiz is a good opponent and I like this fight because he's a skilled,converted southpaw with great punching power, youth and hunger but his size isn't much of a factor when up against someone like Floyd.
I'm suggesting only that Ortiz is much bigger than Pacquiao and can do more damage with a punch that lands on Floyd's head due to the mass behind his punch. Ortiz will step into the ring at 160+ as he did against Berto. Perhaps you think he is a lightwelter? I make nothing of the issue other than, Ortiz is much bigger and has the potential to do more damage. If Floyd gets tagged, I want to see you lufao at that.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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FinitoElDinamita
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Dench
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FinitoElDinamita
Pacman needs to agree to random testing with no cut-off date.. He never did that...
Because Floyd turned down every damn offer in the first place... He wouldnt want to sit down and talk about the fight, but keeps on saying that pac should take the tests.
According to Floyd, there's nothing to negotiate if Pac doesn't agree to his
demands first. Random testing leading up to the fight with no cut-offs..
You ment, his demand. There is no "s" in it, it's only one simple demand: random blood tests. Pac did make a long list of demands in which Floyd agreed to them all. Just saying:rolleyes:.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
josef4334
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Dench
Roger believes Pacman aint got boxing skills, but coudn't explain why they dont want to fight him.
He was quoted saying that Victor is much more talented than pacman because he agrees to Floyd's demand on blood tests.. what was that supposed to mean?
Roger also denies what other people thinks when they speculate that the ortiz fight is tune up in preparation for a mega fight with pacman. He cant seem to elaborate on why he thinks that Floyd vs Pacman after ortix fight is CRAZY..
Roger probably couldn't spell cat, if you spotted him the c and t.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kZsRQo4Qzo...ayweather1.jpg
see him losing teeth.. thats a sign of meth abuse. the same crap he accuses pacquiao of taking. idiot.
He should try A-side meth instead so he wouldn't lose his teeth. Aint nothing wrong with Pacman's teeth.
thats coz as poor as we are we know how to brush our teeth. are you roger mayweather? a-side meth.. thats hilarious. i wonder what a-side means?
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
fan johnny
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
What else would it mean... He's just concerened for his nephew's well being.. Fighting Pacman is no different than fighting some lunatic on PCP.. IT's just not a fair fight.. that's basically what he's saying..
TAKE THE TEST and everything is solved.
Ortiz is a much bigger man than Pacquiao. Roger should be more concerned with Ortiz.
Size aint got nothing to do with it..
It's called physics, look it up! and then say size has nothing to do it! Anytime someone gets hit in the head, there is a potential concision the bigger the mass the more potential there is for damage. If you going to worry, then it's appropriate to worry more about the larger opponent.
Physics.. lmfao What about it? You must put alot of stock into size but ortiz brings nothing to the table that Floyd has never seen before. If Ortiz was a natural middleweight or even a JMW, we can talk about size advantage but aint the case here. He's just had his first fight at 147 but Floyd has beaten bigger and better fighters such as Delahoya back in 07 when he still had something. Floyd doesn't have problems neutralizing bigger fighters and you can watch the Chico fight too... Ortiz has one good win on his resume against an untested Berto and all of a sudden he's the man to beat Floyd Mayweather, with the help of his massive size advantage, of course. lolz
Dont get me wrong, Ortiz is a good opponent and I like this fight because he's a skilled,converted southpaw with great punching power, youth and hunger but his size isn't much of a factor when up against someone like Floyd.
I'm suggesting only that Ortiz is much bigger than Pacquiao and can do more damage with a punch that lands on Floyd's head due to the mass behind his punch. Ortiz will step into the ring at 160+ as he did against Berto. Perhaps you think he is a lightwelter? I make nothing of the issue other than, Ortiz is much bigger and has the potential to do more damage. If Floyd gets tagged, I want to see you lufao at that.
Ortiz is not " MUCH BIGGER " than Pacquiao. He's a little taller but that's doesn't give him much size advantage. Have you compared the legs of these two? Legs are an important part of a fighter's body because that's where balance and punching power is generated and Ortiz has some chicken legs compared to pacman.. On top of that, Pac's has an 8 inch wrist size which is an extreme case for a man of his size.. 8 inch wrists are for HW fighters, and that's another reason why his punches have great effects.. these are some of the reasons why he's been hurting bigger men at higher weights.. ( Besides PEDS which is another story ).... ORtiz doesn't punch harder nor is he the type to impose his size on his opponents so size is pretty much a non-issue here..
Here's an interesting piece on Pacman's power..
Where things get interesting is in the extreme cases, and among these fighters there is no bigger extreme than Pacquiao. The man has 8in wrists, which is higher than the wrist average for heavyweights. When you consider he is only 66.5in tall (just over the superfeatherweight avg height) it feels even more impressive. One of the things that has characterized Pacquiao during the past two or three years is his ability to punch extremely hard for someone his size against seemingly bigger foes. Well, two fighters among those I checked who also were recognized for their power and who also have 8in wrists with much smaller height than their wrist size would suggest are Joe Louis, 74in height, 8in wrists (should be 7.45in) and Mike Tyson, 71.5in height, 8in wrists (should be 7.23in). I'm assuming it is not necessary to highlight that both Louis and Tyson fought at the heavyweight class.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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Dench
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FinitoElDinamita
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Dench
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FinitoElDinamita
Pacman needs to agree to random testing with no cut-off date.. He never did that...
Because Floyd turned down every damn offer in the first place... He wouldnt want to sit down and talk about the fight, but keeps on saying that pac should take the tests.
According to Floyd, there's nothing to negotiate if Pac doesn't agree to his demands first. Random testing leading up to the fight with no cut-offs..
Wow, how do you call that? Blood test before negotiations? Negotiations were happening pal, the HBO top honcho can attest to that, but Floyd chicken out. Many have tried already, but as he always say, All have failed to convince him.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet because this came straight from the horse's mouth. A negotiation is between two fighters in the same room, sitting across from each other and that never took place.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
What else would it mean... He's just concerened for his nephew's well being.. Fighting Pacman is no different than fighting some lunatic on PCP.. IT's just not a fair fight.. that's basically what he's saying..
TAKE THE TEST and everything is solved.
Ortiz is a much bigger man than Pacquiao. Roger should be more concerned with Ortiz.
Size aint got nothing to do with it..
It's called physics, look it up! and then say size has nothing to do it! Anytime someone gets hit in the head, there is a potential concision the bigger the mass the more potential there is for damage. If you going to worry, then it's appropriate to worry more about the larger opponent.
Physics.. lmfao What about it? You must put alot of stock into size but ortiz brings nothing to the table that Floyd has never seen before. If Ortiz was a natural middleweight or even a JMW, we can talk about size advantage but aint the case here. He's just had his first fight at 147 but Floyd has beaten bigger and better fighters such as Delahoya back in 07 when he still had something. Floyd doesn't have problems neutralizing bigger fighters and you can watch the Chico fight too... Ortiz has one good win on his resume against an untested Berto and all of a sudden he's the man to beat Floyd Mayweather, with the help of his massive size advantage, of course. lolz
Dont get me wrong, Ortiz is a good opponent and I like this fight because he's a skilled,converted southpaw with great punching power, youth and hunger but his size isn't much of a factor when up against someone like Floyd.
I'm suggesting only that Ortiz is much bigger than Pacquiao and can do more damage with a punch that lands on Floyd's head due to the mass behind his punch. Ortiz will step into the ring at 160+ as he did against Berto. Perhaps you think he is a lightwelter? I make nothing of the issue other than, Ortiz is much bigger and has the potential to do more damage. If Floyd gets tagged, I want to see you lufao at that.
Ortiz is not " MUCH BIGGER " than Pacquiao. He's a little taller but that's doesn't give him much size advantage. Have you compared the legs of these two? Legs are an important part of a fighter's body because that's where balance and punching power is generated and Ortiz has some chicken legs compared to pacman.. On top of that, Pac's has an 8 inch wrist size which is an extreme case for a man of his size.. 8 inch wrists are for HW fighters, and that's another reason why his punches have great effects.. these are some of the reasons why he's been hurting bigger men at higher weights.. ( Besides PEDS which is another story ).... ORtiz doesn't punch harder nor is he the type to impose his size on his opponents so size is pretty much a non-issue here..
Here's an interesting piece on Pacman's power..
Where things get interesting is in the extreme cases, and among these fighters there is no bigger extreme than Pacquiao. The man has 8in wrists, which is higher than the wrist average for heavyweights. When you consider he is only 66.5in tall (just over the superfeatherweight avg height) it feels even more impressive. One of the things that has characterized Pacquiao during the past two or three years is his ability to punch extremely hard for someone his size against seemingly bigger foes. Well, two fighters among those I checked who also were recognized for their power and who also have 8in wrists with much smaller height than their wrist size would suggest are Joe Louis, 74in height, 8in wrists (should be 7.45in) and Mike Tyson, 71.5in height, 8in wrists (should be 7.23in). I'm assuming it is not necessary to highlight that both Louis and Tyson fought at the heavyweight class.
Pacquiao is 5'-6" steps into the ring is weight at ~148lbs and has to maintain a high protien diet to keep that weight. When Ortiz is 5'-9" steps into the ring steps into the ring at ~160lbs which is Middleweight. Ortiz is bigger than Pacquiao. (You can try to twist this FACT but it remains a FACT)
If Ortiz went on the same diet as Pacquiao he'd easily weigh well over 160lbs and probably closer to 170lbs. The wrist size thing is an anomaly that proves nothing about size or weight which is the criteria for classification.
Picking out body part sizes for creating anomalies can be done by anyone who wants to do the research comparison. It doesn't make the conclusions scientific or proven. It can only identify a possible trend provided enough numbers were gathered. When using these study techniques, it is typically referred to as sampling. The internet is filled with these type of articles that are poorly supported but well written and can a lot of myths.
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Re: Roger Mayweather: “It would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao"
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FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
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fan johnny
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FinitoElDinamita
What else would it mean... He's just concerened for his nephew's well being.. Fighting Pacman is no different than fighting some lunatic on PCP.. IT's just not a fair fight.. that's basically what he's saying..
TAKE THE TEST and everything is solved.
Ortiz is a much bigger man than Pacquiao. Roger should be more concerned with Ortiz.
Size aint got nothing to do with it..
It's called physics, look it up! and then say size has nothing to do it! Anytime someone gets hit in the head, there is a potential concision the bigger the mass the more potential there is for damage. If you going to worry, then it's appropriate to worry more about the larger opponent.
Physics.. lmfao What about it? You must put alot of stock into size but ortiz brings nothing to the table that Floyd has never seen before. If Ortiz was a natural middleweight or even a JMW, we can talk about size advantage but aint the case here. He's just had his first fight at 147 but Floyd has beaten bigger and better fighters such as Delahoya back in 07 when he still had something. Floyd doesn't have problems neutralizing bigger fighters and you can watch the Chico fight too... Ortiz has one good win on his resume against an untested Berto and all of a sudden he's the man to beat Floyd Mayweather, with the help of his massive size advantage, of course. lolz
Dont get me wrong, Ortiz is a good opponent and I like this fight because he's a skilled,converted southpaw with great punching power, youth and hunger but his size isn't much of a factor when up against someone like Floyd.
I'm suggesting only that Ortiz is much bigger than Pacquiao and can do more damage with a punch that lands on Floyd's head due to the mass behind his punch. Ortiz will step into the ring at 160+ as he did against Berto. Perhaps you think he is a lightwelter? I make nothing of the issue other than, Ortiz is much bigger and has the potential to do more damage. If Floyd gets tagged, I want to see you lufao at that.
Ortiz is not " MUCH BIGGER " than Pacquiao. He's a little taller but that's doesn't give him much size advantage. Have you compared the legs of these two? Legs are an important part of a fighter's body because that's where balance and punching power is generated and Ortiz has some chicken legs compared to pacman.. On top of that, Pac's has an 8 inch wrist size which is an extreme case for a man of his size.. 8 inch wrists are for HW fighters, and that's another reason why his punches have great effects.. these are some of the reasons why he's been hurting bigger men at higher weights.. ( Besides PEDS which is another story ).... ORtiz doesn't punch harder nor is he the type to impose his size on his opponents so size is pretty much a non-issue here..
Here's an interesting piece on Pacman's power..
Where things get interesting is in the extreme cases, and among these fighters there is no bigger extreme than Pacquiao. The man has 8in wrists, which is higher than the wrist average for heavyweights. When you consider he is only 66.5in tall (just over the superfeatherweight avg height) it feels even more impressive. One of the things that has characterized Pacquiao during the past two or three years is his ability to punch extremely hard for someone his size against seemingly bigger foes. Well, two fighters among those I checked who also were recognized for their power and who also have 8in wrists with much smaller height than their wrist size would suggest are Joe Louis, 74in height, 8in wrists (should be 7.45in) and Mike Tyson, 71.5in height, 8in wrists (should be 7.23in). I'm assuming it is not necessary to highlight that both Louis and Tyson fought at the heavyweight class.
Pacquiao is 5'-6" steps into the ring is weight at ~148lbs and has to maintain a high protien diet to keep that weight. When Ortiz is 5'-9" steps into the ring steps into the ring at ~160lbs which is Middleweight. Ortiz is bigger than Pacquiao. (You can try to twist this FACT but it remains a FACT)
If Ortiz went on the same diet as Pacquiao he'd easily weigh well over 160lbs and probably closer to 170lbs. The wrist size thing is an anomaly that proves nothing about size or weight which is the criteria for classification.
Picking out body part sizes for creating anomalies can be done by anyone who wants to do the research comparison. It doesn't make the conclusions scientific or proven. It can only identify a possible trend provided enough numbers were gathered. When using these study techniques, it is typically referred to as sampling. The internet is filled with these type of articles that are poorly supported but well written and can a lot of myths.
I only stated the facts, no myths.. I re-read your posts and basically, you're saying that Ortiz is a big dude so his power will have greater effect on Floyd but do you think P4P wise and even H2H on the latter case, that Ortiz punches harder than Chico and Delahoya? Floyd has fought and overcome all styles and sizes and Ortiz is nothing new. He either goes all offense or all defense and is unable to mix them up well, there's no in between with him. If he attacks Floyd, he'll get taken apart cuz that what Floyd relishes. He's at his best when fighters get offensive on him plus ortiz is in some more deep trouble here because Floyd fights southpaws very aggresively. ORtiz has no edge over floyd from the outside or on the inside so I just dont see his size being any kind of problem.
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I only stated the facts, no myths.. I re-read your posts and basically, you're saying that Ortiz is a big dude so his power will have greater effect on Floyd but do you think P4P wise and even H2H on the latter case, that Ortiz punches harder than Chico and Delahoya? Floyd has fought and overcome all styles and sizes and Ortiz is nothing new. He either goes all offense or all defense and is unable to mix them up well, there's no in between with him. If he attacks Floyd, he'll get taken apart cuz that what Floyd relishes. He's at his best when fighters get offensive on him plus ortiz is in some more deep trouble here because Floyd fights southpaws very aggresively. ORtiz has no edge over floyd from the outside or on the inside so I just dont see his size being any kind of problem.
I believe that the article on wrist size related to a fighters power is a myth because the original author used selective numbers from only a few fighters and came up with a theory based on his sampling. It just doesn't have enough evidence to prove anything and is highly subjective. You could easily turn the theory around and use small sized wrist fighters that have power.
Basically but Not exactly. I'm only saying Roger's concern about Pacquiao is misplaced because Ortiz has the "potential" to do more damage to his nephew with a well placed punch.
To address the second part of your post anyone who says Ortiz has the skill set to give Mayweather problems doesn't watch Mayweather fights. Having said that, Ortiz can be at 24, having desire and coupled with Floyd's low output also has the potential to give Floyd problems. I think Floyd will bait Ortiz the same as he does with many pressure fighters. I think this is exactly why Floyd got caught by Mosley in the second round.
Does Ortiz punch harder than Chico or Dela Hoya? I don't think it matters. What really matters is how many times he can catch Mayweather with a clean shot to the head. It only takes one clean punch in the right place to produce a KO. I'm almost positive if the fight goes the distance, Ortiz loses on the cards. And I'm also almost positive that Floyd won't put himself into an offensive position long enough to KO Ortiz.
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Actually, anyone who thinks Ortiz' size is going to play a big role against Floyd dont really understand either fighters..
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So when is it not 'crazy' to get in the ring with pac? When Floyd and Pac are both retired? This coming from the camp of the obvious favourite? I could see if Floyd was the underdog, but the favourite?!? WTF?
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Pacman needs to agree to random testing with no cut-off date.. He never did that...
i certailny agree with you......pac has to take the test..he is on to something...a side meth! Man,bullets would bounce off youre body if you were hit.
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I only stated the facts, no myths.. I re-read your posts and basically, you're saying that Ortiz is a big dude so his power will have greater effect on Floyd but do you think P4P wise and even H2H on the latter case, that Ortiz punches harder than Chico and Delahoya? Floyd has fought and overcome all styles and sizes and Ortiz is nothing new. He either goes all offense or all defense and is unable to mix them up well, there's no in between with him. If he attacks Floyd, he'll get taken apart cuz that what Floyd relishes. He's at his best when fighters get offensive on him plus ortiz is in some more deep trouble here because Floyd fights southpaws very aggresively. ORtiz has no edge over floyd from the outside or on the inside so I just dont see his size being any kind of problem.
I believe that the article on wrist size related to a fighters power is a myth because the original author used selective numbers from only a few fighters and came up with a theory based on his sampling. It just doesn't have enough evidence to prove anything and is highly subjective. You could easily turn the theory around and use small sized wrist fighters that have power.
Basically but Not exactly. I'm only saying Roger's concern about Pacquiao is misplaced because Ortiz has the "potential" to do more damage to his nephew with a well placed punch.
To address the second part of your post anyone who says Ortiz has the skill set to give Mayweather problems doesn't watch Mayweather fights. Having said that, Ortiz can be at 24, having desire and coupled with Floyd's low output also has the potential to give Floyd problems. I think Floyd will bait Ortiz the same as he does with many pressure fighters. I think this is exactly why Floyd got caught by Mosley in the second round.
Does Ortiz punch harder than Chico or Dela Hoya? I don't think it matters. What really matters is how many times he can catch Mayweather with a clean shot to the head. It only takes one clean punch in the right place to produce a KO. I'm almost positive if the fight goes the distance, Ortiz loses on the cards. And I'm also almost positive that Floyd won't put himself into an offensive position long enough to KO Ortiz.
johnny.. why are you arguing with the guy? with his concept, a cotton ball and a marble is the same. same round shape and about the same size. it doesnt matter that a marble weigh about 3 times as much. and if you hit somebody with it, they wont say that it hurts the same as if you got hit by a cotton ball.
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I only stated the facts, no myths.. I re-read your posts and basically, you're saying that Ortiz is a big dude so his power will have greater effect on Floyd but do you think P4P wise and even H2H on the latter case, that Ortiz punches harder than Chico and Delahoya? Floyd has fought and overcome all styles and sizes and Ortiz is nothing new. He either goes all offense or all defense and is unable to mix them up well, there's no in between with him. If he attacks Floyd, he'll get taken apart cuz that what Floyd relishes. He's at his best when fighters get offensive on him plus ortiz is in some more deep trouble here because Floyd fights southpaws very aggresively. ORtiz has no edge over floyd from the outside or on the inside so I just dont see his size being any kind of problem.
I believe that the article on wrist size related to a fighters power is a myth because the original author used selective numbers from only a few fighters and came up with a theory based on his sampling. It just doesn't have enough evidence to prove anything and is highly subjective. You could easily turn the theory around and use small sized wrist fighters that have power.
Basically but Not exactly. I'm only saying Roger's concern about Pacquiao is misplaced because Ortiz has the "potential" to do more damage to his nephew with a well placed punch.
To address the second part of your post anyone who says Ortiz has the skill set to give Mayweather problems doesn't watch Mayweather fights. Having said that, Ortiz can be at 24, having desire and coupled with Floyd's low output also has the potential to give Floyd problems. I think Floyd will bait Ortiz the same as he does with many pressure fighters. I think this is exactly why Floyd got caught by Mosley in the second round.
Does Ortiz punch harder than Chico or Dela Hoya? I don't think it matters. What really matters is how many times he can catch Mayweather with a clean shot to the head. It only takes one clean punch in the right place to produce a KO. I'm almost positive if the fight goes the distance, Ortiz loses on the cards. And I'm also almost positive that Floyd won't put himself into an offensive position long enough to KO Ortiz.
johnny.. why are you arguing with the guy? with his concept, a cotton ball and a marble is the same. same round shape and about the same size. it doesnt matter that a marble weigh about 3 times as much. and if you hit somebody with it, they wont say that it hurts the same as if you got hit by a cotton ball.
You're starting to remind me of those pactards from ESB.. I bet you're one of those casual observers who thinks size is an end all to everything..you're one of those cats who think football players will fuck up boxers because they're so BIG and BUFF lol yea, Like FLoyd never beat bigger and better fighters than Ortiz before. smh
IF FLoyd were to get in the ring with Sergio Martinez for instance, then we can put some stock into size.... You have no idea what you're talking about.
