Devon Alexander v Lucas Matthysse - thoughts?

Anyone give Matthysee a good shot at beating Alexander this weekend?

I cant say I know anything about Matthysee but his KO% is very impressive. His fight with Judah - what was the general consensus on that SD loss? Fair enough result or could it totally have gone either way? Is it a fight worth me watching?

I cant say I like Alexander, his style seems way too pitter patter throwing a ton of punches that dont land. I thought Kotelnik beat him and he was thoroughly unconvicing against Bradley for someone being touted as highly as he was. Coming off his first loss could you see this affecting him in this fight?

I think this is excellent matchmaking by both sides. The Judah fight for Matthysse was VERY close. Lucas has to learn to track down boxers and Devon needs to learn to handle big punchers.

I think this fight elevates one of these guys significantly from where they are and it is the kind of style matchup that could well elevate both guys.

Gonna be fun.

I posted on here a few weeks ago that I think Mattyhsse will beat him. As every one knows, he was probably robbed vs Judah and, against Corley, looked like a fucking beast. Fair enough Chop Chop was waaaay past his best but if Matthysse goes for the body, like he did during that fight, can't see Alexander lasting the fight - and especially how he quit so easily vs Bradley. After this fight, regardless of the result, Matthysse should fight Marcos Maidana.

Matthysse tko 9.

On paper, great fight to watch.
With them both taking a "L" recently, should make this a very good fight.
With Devon's boxing skills, I can see him winning at least 5 or 6 rounds if he comes to fight. Not the Devon that fought Bradley. But I can also see Devon going down at least once if he gets up.

Matthysse vs M&M would be a good fight, but not sure M&M will get past Guerrero.

The 140 division has a lot of talent. It's ashame Bradley is not fighting anyone!:eek:

It's a fight that I'm excited about. I'm curious to see where Lucas and Devon stand.

I have an opinion that is wildly unpopular but it is that Judah is overrated and Matthysse, therefore, is overrated. I like Devon by KO or unanimous UD (I also like Khan by KO or UD). I know that Lucas is a big puncher but that only takes you so far at the elite level. He's a guy whose defining fight is a close loss to Judah although I thought that fight could have gone either way. Other than a win over an old Chop Chop, I don't recognize anyone on his resume. I want to rewatch a little Lucas before the fight with Devon to make sure I still feel the same way, but that is what my gut tells me.

Actually, I am giving Mathysse a fair chance of getting through via KO around the 8-9th. Alexander is a solid boxer but I could imagine him being surprised with the pressure of and the power of Mathysse and being unaware just a fraction of second too much. I think that it is definitely a good and significative fight for the division.

I just watched the Matthysse v Judah fight for the first time and man did I not see the fight everyone else saw (by everyone else I mean the judges and commentators). I had Matthysse winning 10 rounds to 2 plus a knockdown so 118-109, so not even close for me at all. Judah did bugger all work in most of the rounds whereas Matthysse put in good workrate mainly to the body throughout. Maybe I just like Matthysse's style a lot more than Judahs or something, cos it seemed a close fight to most :confused:

I can definitely see Matthysse beating Alexander based on that, I wish there were odds out for it in the UK, none as yet.

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I just watched the Matthysse v Judah fight for the first time and man did I not see the fight everyone else saw (by everyone else I mean the judges and commentators). I had Matthysse winning 10 rounds to 2 plus a knockdown so 118-109, so not even close for me at all. Judah did bugger all work in most of the rounds whereas Matthysse put in good workrate mainly to the body throughout. Maybe I just like Matthysse's style a lot more than Judahs or something, cos it seemed a close fight to most :confused:

I can definitely see Matthysse beating Alexander based on that, I wish there were odds out for it in the UK, none as yet.

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If i remember correctly, I think I had Zab winning the first four rounds and having them in the bank but, from the fifth onwards, Matthysse winning every round, except the last, plus a knockdown. It was close but I think had it been anywhere other than NJ, Mattysse would've got the decision.

This is surprisingly good matchup which shows both teams want to take a big step forward to bigger matches rather than just tread water with routine fights. I have never seen Matthysse but on record he looks a big puncher and Devon is a slick boxer, who seemed unable to impose himself on Bradley. No idea who wins but a very good matchup from both teams. Well done and more of this appreciated.

lucas is a beast if devon stops him, the bradley loss will be forgiven. go devon!

I see Matthysse taking Devon. I'm not really too impressed by Alexander at all. He ruined a potential half decent fight with Bradley with his negativity, and he seemed to lack in confidence for a man who was supposed to be a world champion.

As for Matthyse I have been impressed, I do think he lost a very close decision to Judah but he gained more than he lost from that fight and his power has to be seriously respected.

I wouldn't call Alexander a slick boxer at all. I'd call him a clumsy, shoe shining mess. WAR Matthysse.

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lucas is a beast if devon stops him, the bradley loss will be forgiven. go devon!

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What are the odds on this fight?

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lucas is a beast if devon stops him, the bradley loss will be forgiven. go devon!

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What are the odds on this fight?

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Alexander is a healthy favourite. Only a few books so far out (im in the UK), best odds ive seen for either fighter is 2/5 Alexander and 11/4 Matthysse

I'm going with mathyse who isn't all that I don't think, but devon was beat by kotelnik imo and looked second class against bradley, he's not going to like the pressure.

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lucas is a beast if devon stops him, the bradley loss will be forgiven. go devon!

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What are the odds on this fight?

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Alexander is a healthy favourite. Only a few books so far out (im in the UK), best odds ive seen for either fighter is 2/5 Alexander and 11/4 Matthysse

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11/4 is giving money away.

Gonna stick a few quid on that.

Have either of these guys ever been knocked down or out? Amateur or Professional?

For the people who think Lucas Matthysse will win, will you explain your reasons? To me, other than Matthysse's punching power, Devon is superior in pretty much every single category: foot speed, defense, movement, hand speed, balance, coordination, combination punching, ring generalship. Plus the fight is in Alexander's hometown. The deck is stacked against Matthysse. People are down on Alexander because he essentially quit against Bradley and I think they are underrating him because of it.

I don't see how Matthysse wins unless he catches Alexander. Devon plays it safe and moves around all night and he wins on the cards or he catches Matthysse coming in and knocks him out. Why am I totally off here?

He was also very poor against Kotelnik who was robbed.

Matthysse is gonna whoop his ass. Gonna work that body until Devon quits likes a bitch. Again.

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For the people who think Lucas Matthysse will win, will you explain your reasons? To me, other than Matthysse's punching power, Devon is superior in pretty much every single category: foot speed, defense, movement, hand speed, balance, coordination, combination punching, ring generalship. Plus the fight is in Alexander's hometown. The deck is stacked against Matthysse. People are down on Alexander because he essentially quit against Bradley and I think they are underrating him because of it.

I don't see how Matthysse wins unless he catches Alexander. Devon plays it safe and moves around all night and he wins on the cards or he catches Matthysse coming in and knocks him out. Why am I totally off here?

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Its a bit of a pick em but you could say the same about Judah compared to Matthysse and I watched that and I thought Matthysse easily won that on points despite not getting the verdict.

I see Lucas running in to a punch maybe an uppercut and getting stopped. Alexander has freakish power himself if he applies it. The stoppage of Urango was not via accumulation, it was 1 punch power.

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I see Lucas running in to a punch maybe an uppercut and getting stopped. Alexander has freakish power himself if he applies it. The stoppage of Urango was not via accumulation, it was 1 punch power.

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Prior to the stopage of urango he wasn't doing all that great against him and looking less than spectacular. I think we took the ko of urango and blew it out of proportion, hell hatton was makin urango look like a fool what five years ago?

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I see Lucas running in to a punch maybe an uppercut and getting stopped. Alexander has freakish power himself if he applies it. The stoppage of Urango was not via accumulation, it was 1 punch power.

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Prior to the stopage of urango he wasn't doing all that great against him and looking less than spectacular. I think we took the ko of urango and blew it out of proportion, hell hatton was makin urango look like a fool what five years ago?

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To me, the win (er loss) over Zab was overrated. At this stage, Devon is much better than Zab and he barely scraped by against Zab.

Tonight, we'll see.

well, matthysse beat the crap out of alexander. and got robbed again!!!
UNREAL BULLSHIT!!!
alexander showed great heart and tried hard to box, but it wasnt enough. he was pitter patter compared to matthyesses power!
he was hit very hard and often by the argentine. there is no way devon alexander won that fight, and only a fucking retard would think he did~!!
ROBBERY is the word of the day, and something that needs to be looked into, because it makes me sick seeing these great foreign fighters getting ripped off when they performed excellent and won the fight! maidana, matthyess, kotelnik or whatever his name is!

hey fighters, come to fight in The United States Of Corruption!

Devon could have at least admitted that Mathysse was the better fighter tonight, embarassing judging from the local judges. the good thing that happened tonight was the affirmation that Lucas is indeed the beast in the division with a better skill set than Maidana.

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Devon could have at least admitted that Mathysse was the better fighter tonight, embarassing judging from the local judges. the good thing that happened tonight was the affirmation that Lucas is indeed the beast in the division with a better skill set than Maidana.

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He may have a better skill set than maidana but on brute force and will id go with maidana I think.

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Devon could have at least admitted that Mathysse was the better fighter tonight, embarassing judging from the local judges. the good thing that happened tonight was the affirmation that Lucas is indeed the beast in the division with a better skill set than Maidana.

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He may have a better skill set than maidana but on brute force and will id go with maidana I think.

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I think I would too. That'd be a real bombs away affair.

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Devon could have at least admitted that Mathysse was the better fighter tonight, embarassing judging from the local judges. the good thing that happened tonight was the affirmation that Lucas is indeed the beast in the division with a better skill set than Maidana.

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He may have a better skill set than maidana but on brute force and will id go with maidana I think.

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I think I would too. That'd be a real bombs away affair.

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For sure, I would love to see them two go at it.

I just want to formally eat crow in this thread because I was dead wrong on my call. Before the fight, I thought Devon would dominate, but Matthysse clearly won that fight. I don't think Devon redeemed himself with that performance. Now we can just more honestly judge him for what he is.

How the FUCK did the first judge score it 96-93 to Alexander? Absoloutely scandalous. I scored it 96-93 to Matthysse and I was generous to Alexander in one of the rounds! Feel sorry for Lucas Matthysse. He should still be unbeaten. That's two genuine robberies within a year.

Alexander, on the other hand, should have three successive losses on his record now. In my eyes he lost to Kotelnik & Matthysse and then bitched out vs Bradley.