considering the members of this forum, if the man they are supporting loses which set of fans will be more embarrassed?
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considering the members of this forum, if the man they are supporting loses which set of fans will be more embarrassed?
I'd have to say the Wlad fans.
Wlad is a bigger Heavy, a more experienced Heavy, if it goes to points - it's in Germany etc etc a Wlad loss is far less excusable than a Haye loss would be.
Wlad getting smashed off of a greener, smaller fighter? I'd be pretty embarrassed if I was a fan.
All Haye fans would have to get embarrassed over is that they over estimated their fighter too much.
Most Haye fans with their heads screwed on should be giving Haye a very good shot, but realising that he is still a sizable underdog in this fight.
I consider myself as a fairlly good Wlad's fan and if ever he loses, I will be very disappointed but not embarrassed one second. That will be a "sad" day so to speak but that is about it, appreciating sport is all about cheering for our favorites but win or lose, "TV sports" are first and foremost entertainment, not a visceral need.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
i think adam hits the nail on the head
i think the general opinion of haye fans (reading the posts on here) is that haye has a very good chance but is the underdog
and the general opinion of the wlad fans is that haye has no chance, he was an overrated cruiserweight, he doesnt have the power to hurt wlad, he wouldnt have beaten byrd or chambers, etc etc
so id say in general the wlad fans will have some egg on their faces (if haye wins obviously)
I am the first one to think that Haye has no chances and would Wlad lose, I wouldn't be embarrassed one second and will take the mockeries like a big man. As Bad Religion once sang "because it's only, entertainment".Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
good on you brotherQuote:
Originally Posted by NamelessI am the first one to think that Haye has no chances and would Wlad lose, I wouldn't be embarrassed one second and will take the mockeries like a big man. As Bad Religion once sang "because it's only, entertainment".Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
i shall expect some abuse from you if wlad wins as i expect you to be ready for mine if it is haye who wins
I root for wlad but if he looses it won't be the first time a fighter I root for has lost nor will it be the last, don't see why there should be shame in it. I think its just a few people on either side that have been fanatical about it and those are the ones that will have egg on their face for talkin so much crap...
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Originally Posted by armin
what is it that makes wlad appealing in this fight? is it just hayes mouth thats putting you off?
Yeah not a fan of how haye went about things over last few years, been a fan of wlads for years. People call him borring but I think he's not any more borring than most other dominant fighters.he doesn't take risks because he doesn't have to its up to his opponent to push him and heck haye might be able to. If haye wins fair play to him and I hope hell act classy in victory, or more likely defeat. All I know is I rewatched lewis vitali earlier, and god if this fight is only half as good as that ill be happy regardless of outcome.
yep Adam has it bang on
the majority of us Haye fans realise the enormity of his task - but that it's achievable. Will be nothing to be embarassed about at all
those who are saying ( very few but they are out there !) that he will take Wlad apart easily and in no time are deluded.
But I am happy to be proved wrong
And if he does will look forward to reading Lyle's postfight post ;D
I'm the total opposite and don't see a way Wlad can win unless by Hayes mistakes ;)
Anyone who thinks Haye will stand directly in front of him is off their head.
Booth will have a gameplan no question.!
i can see Haye stopping him inside 7 rounds infact the earlier the better ;)
Here's Freddy Roach on the fight!
Freddie Roach: David Haye will beat Wladimir Klitschko in heavyweight title fight if he uses his power early - Telegraph
That's at least the 3rd time that Freddy Roach article has been posted.
I won't be embarrassed if Wlad loses. I won't be happy about the loss, but losses happen in boxing.
I'm not worried about the other side because they'll just say "He was the underdog" and what not and there's nothing wrong with that. I just think if the guy is going to talk a whole bunch of trash then the way he fights will determine if his fans should feel embarrassed.
So you're saying that you'd rather see haye lose well than win badly?
Probably the most unbiased you've been on the subject... ;)
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Originally Posted by armin
what do you like about wlad, do you find his fights entertaining?
would you be happy for him to reign like he is for the next 5 years?
do you think that the HWs are just as exciting now as in all the eras before lewis retired?
Ha, well that's not exactly what I meant. You guys are of course aware of when fighters that may have "a puncher's chance" vs Wlad but instead of pushing the envelope and pressuring Wlad trying like hell to land a big punch they load up and wait and eat jabs all night.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I would like for the WBA title holder to have a good fight, Wlad needs a test every now and then. And it would be nice for the heavyweights to have a fight that lives up to the hype.
What do I like about wlad? Lots, he's a dude that obviously had some setbacks early(due to chin/stamina issues) and has improved himself to negate that weakness, which takes a lot of work. Some people hate on gsp in mma cause they think he's borring but I love seeing a guy negagte someone elses strengths and mask his weaknesses. He always seems to come of as a good dude and doesn't do much trash talking which I'm not a fan off. And yes some of his fights leave something to be desired not in the sense that he's not taking enough risks but the dudes he's in just seem overmatched, but that's not his fault, same goes for vitali. I'm sure haye is a good dude outside the ring as well actually and he did all the barking and trash talking to get himself into the fight but still don't mean I like the way he went about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
what do you like about wlad, do you find his fights entertaining?
would you be happy for him to reign like he is for the next 5 years?
do you think that the HWs are just as exciting now as in all the eras before lewis retired?
I REALLY wouldn't like to be Lyle if Wlad loses.
I handled it twice before and I'm still here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by El KabongI handled it twice before and I'm still here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
i've no doubt you'll still be here. Might take a while to wipe all the egg off your face though.
Still I think it would be considered a big upset on the grand scheme of things if Haye wins....
Ordered me Hayemaker t-shirt today, should be having my corn rows done next week ;D
...Won't you look prettyQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI handled it twice before and I'm still here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
i've no doubt you'll still be here. Might take a while to wipe all the egg off your face though.
Still I think it would be considered a big upset on the grand scheme of things if Haye wins....
Ordered me Hayemaker t-shirt today, should be having my corn rows done next week ;D
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Originally Posted by El Kabong...Won't you look prettyQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI handled it twice before and I'm still here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
i've no doubt you'll still be here. Might take a while to wipe all the egg off your face though.
Still I think it would be considered a big upset on the grand scheme of things if Haye wins....
Ordered me Hayemaker t-shirt today, should be having my corn rows done next week ;D
Prettier than you ;D
Yeah I hate it when people repeat themselves ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
You've got more front than the WBA title holder.
Have you homos sorted a sig bet yet? I'm sure there was a thread for it.
Winner can be the giver! ;D
Find the thread and get one on, we can all help decide the bets!
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Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong...Won't you look prettyQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI handled it twice before and I'm still here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
i've no doubt you'll still be here. Might take a while to wipe all the egg off your face though.
Still I think it would be considered a big upset on the grand scheme of things if Haye wins....
Ordered me Hayemaker t-shirt today, should be having my corn rows done next week ;D
Prettier than you ;D
Just you.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Usually the bigger man has the most to lose.
I don't know man if you talk a ton of shit and don't back it up you usually look pretty fucking stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer
:lol: :lolhaha:Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYeah I hate it when people repeat themselves ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
You've got more front than the WBA title holder.
Mint
I've said before I don't do sig bets. Maybe if I'd never been laid I'd be interested in them, but what with having a life and not being a homo I'll stick to betting with money.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0Have you homos sorted a sig bet yet? I'm sure there was a thread for it.
Winner can be the giver! ;D
Find the thread and get one on, we can all help decide the bets!
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Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong...Won't you look prettyQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI handled it twice before and I'm still here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
i've no doubt you'll still be here. Might take a while to wipe all the egg off your face though.
Still I think it would be considered a big upset on the grand scheme of things if Haye wins....
Ordered me Hayemaker t-shirt today, should be having my corn rows done next week ;D
Prettier than you ;D
You kids have all the fun you want though.
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Originally Posted by El KabongI don't know man if you talk a ton of shit and don't back it up you usually look pretty fucking stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer
Man that could come back and bite you on the ass if wlad loses.
Mars_ax is notable by his absence in this thread.
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Originally Posted by FTMatty
He added himself to his ignore list by mistake. ;D
Nah he's probably just wanking over a poster of pacquiao.
roflQuote:
Originally Posted by hornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by ftmatty
he added himself to his ignore list by mistake. ;d
nah he's probably just wanking over a poster of pacquiao.
im pretty sure wlad isnt a dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by arminWhat do I like about wlad? Lots, he's a dude that obviously had some setbacks early(due to chin/stamina issues) and has improved himself to negate that weakness, which takes a lot of work. Some people hate on gsp in mma cause they think he's borring but I love seeing a guy negagte someone elses strengths and mask his weaknesses. He always seems to come of as a good dude and doesn't do much trash talking which I'm not a fan off. And yes some of his fights leave something to be desired not in the sense that he's not taking enough risks but the dudes he's in just seem overmatched, but that's not his fault, same goes for vitali. I'm sure haye is a good dude outside the ring as well actually and he did all the barking and trash talking to get himself into the fight but still don't mean I like the way he went about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
what do you like about wlad, do you find his fights entertaining?
would you be happy for him to reign like he is for the next 5 years?
do you think that the HWs are just as exciting now as in all the eras before lewis retired?
i would say one of the requirements for being a dude is being socially acceptable, i dont think wlad is
i reckon if he went to his local pub everyone would be interested at the start coz he's the HW champ and then after listening to him for a while they would start shuffling away
i reckon by the end of the night he would be sat in a corner on his own rattling on to himself about nothing in particular
then his kid would come in and sit next to him and start going on about a rematch with lennoz lewis
Right, ill let you roll with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44im pretty sure wlad isnt a dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by arminWhat do I like about wlad? Lots, he's a dude that obviously had some setbacks early(due to chin/stamina issues) and has improved himself to negate that weakness, which takes a lot of work. Some people hate on gsp in mma cause they think he's borring but I love seeing a guy negagte someone elses strengths and mask his weaknesses. He always seems to come of as a good dude and doesn't do much trash talking which I'm not a fan off. And yes some of his fights leave something to be desired not in the sense that he's not taking enough risks but the dudes he's in just seem overmatched, but that's not his fault, same goes for vitali. I'm sure haye is a good dude outside the ring as well actually and he did all the barking and trash talking to get himself into the fight but still don't mean I like the way he went about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
what do you like about wlad, do you find his fights entertaining?
would you be happy for him to reign like he is for the next 5 years?
do you think that the HWs are just as exciting now as in all the eras before lewis retired?
i would say one of the requirements for being a dude is being socially acceptable, i dont think wlad is
i reckon if he went to his local pub everyone would be interested at the start coz he's the HW champ and then after listening to him for a while they would start shuffling away
i reckon by the end of the night he would be sat in a corner on his own rattling on to himself about nothing in particular
then his kid would come in and sit next to him and start going on about a rematch with lennoz lewis
ha ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by arminRight, ill let you roll with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44im pretty sure wlad isnt a dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by arminWhat do I like about wlad? Lots, he's a dude that obviously had some setbacks early(due to chin/stamina issues) and has improved himself to negate that weakness, which takes a lot of work. Some people hate on gsp in mma cause they think he's borring but I love seeing a guy negagte someone elses strengths and mask his weaknesses. He always seems to come of as a good dude and doesn't do much trash talking which I'm not a fan off. And yes some of his fights leave something to be desired not in the sense that he's not taking enough risks but the dudes he's in just seem overmatched, but that's not his fault, same goes for vitali. I'm sure haye is a good dude outside the ring as well actually and he did all the barking and trash talking to get himself into the fight but still don't mean I like the way he went about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
what do you like about wlad, do you find his fights entertaining?
would you be happy for him to reign like he is for the next 5 years?
do you think that the HWs are just as exciting now as in all the eras before lewis retired?
i would say one of the requirements for being a dude is being socially acceptable, i dont think wlad is
i reckon if he went to his local pub everyone would be interested at the start coz he's the HW champ and then after listening to him for a while they would start shuffling away
i reckon by the end of the night he would be sat in a corner on his own rattling on to himself about nothing in particular
then his kid would come in and sit next to him and start going on about a rematch with lennoz lewis
Thread almost dead but IMO Haye will look a right tool if he loses.
The majority of the casual fans over here have bought into the hype and genuinely believe Wlad is gonna get KTFO.
The game Haye has gone with all the bad mouthing will back fire big time. I reckon if he loses by a spectacular KO he will be so embarrassed he will have to leave the country with all his millions and retire to Cyprus.
I think that fact will cushion it a bit for him don't you ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
There's a very very small part of me (not my cock - thats massive) that suspects maybe Haye doesnt think he can win next Saturday and thats why he trying to make millions with his excellent sales pitch.